All My Shadows

It's ugly and unnecessary, since it's the same basic concept if the one they already had. The changes they made were not improvements at all, and the big 50 isn't needed. It's not like how B&B very sleekly had the "30" flash in gold within the "BO" in "BOLD."

I'm curious as to what October 10, 1970, and December 6, 1976, are.

I've never seen his AW run, but David Canary made basically all of Adam's (and Stuart's!) pairings work on AMC. I might be forgetting an obvious dud or two, but for 25 solid years, the man was a captivating romantic lead.

17 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Glad you're enjoying it-really a special show.

In one of the interviews that I think is posted in the thread Paul Monash(?) said they learnt from the Shusters that new characters should be apart of the community eg the Chernaks, Ann Howard etc -either living there (but unseen) or returning. It just gave those characters more connectedness to the show.

BTW the whole series is on YouTube.

I still haven't got back into it.

Thanks. I double-checked to make sure it's still available on YouTube, so now I feel less sad about possibly running out of episodes. I'm thankful they at least released the first 164 episodes on DVD, but I'll gladly settle for the VHS recordings after those are done.

I really think they did a great job putting the Schusters into the action. It worked out well with them moving into the Harringtons' house and David taking over at the mill, but I can see why they stuck to keeping new characters close to the core going forward.

Another observation that I can't help but mention since it keeps happening - they really were subtle but totally intentional with the numerous bro talks between Rod and Norman when one of them is getting out of the shower and the other is on his way to it. Not that I mind one bit.

I'm excited to watch the classic episodes on FreeVee! That might be a nice summer project. It looks like the first 400 or so episodes of Home and Away have also been moved over to FreeVee after being on regular Prime for a few years.

I'm once again fully immersed in the world of Peyton Place, and it just keeps getting better and better. Nearing the end of the "Part Three" DVD set, and so much has happened in this span of episodes (66-98) - all of it SO good! The leap forward came at the perfect time, and I appreciate that it was in no way a "reset" of anything. The characters are still processing the drama from the first couple dozen episodes, and new stories are starting because of it.

Rita and Ada, Claire, the Schusters, STEVEN CORD(!) - all of them have been integrated into the show perfectly. I definitely did not expect to want to see the Schusters so much, but the dynamics between the three of them are so interesting. Doris, especially, has so many layers as the past-her-prime go-getter still trying to seize social opportunities while having a hard time adjusting to the role she's *supposed* to play at this stage of her life, which she resents because maybe she'd have an easier time at it if the fates had given her an "easier" child to raise. I figure they're only temporary characters, but I'm looking forward to seeing how their story ends.

Steven Cord has commanded my attention since his first episode. The sex appeal is off the charts, and he's definitely one of those characters who has a weird sexual chemistry with almost every other character he shares scenes with. So far, we've only seen him visit Hannah once, but I can't wait to see more of how that unfolds.

The time jump did wonders for Allison in my eyes. She finally feels like a real character with some spots of grey thanks to her inability to just jump into accepting Elliot's role in her life, and her involvement as a supporting character with the Schusters shows that not everything has to revolve around her.

I could go on and on. I'm just so happy that the momentum was not dropped after the shift from the early storylines into this current phase. They did everything right!

11 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Michael, and a few of the later cast members (Leslie Easterbrook, Ed Marinaro).

Carole Ita White, as well, but I always feel like she was in a lot less episodes than I remember her being in.

Cindy’s passing is really hitting a somber note for me because you just can’t think of Laverne and Shirley as anything but young, energetic, bright-eyed, ambitious, carefree, etc. It’s hard to accept both she and Penny as gone. Then, I’m reminded that it’ll soon be 20 years since John Ritter left us. Late 70s ABC was built on youth and vitality, and we’ve now had to say goodbye to Jack Tripper, Laverne and Shirley, and Charlie’s most popular Angel.

On 1/19/2023 at 12:06 AM, Vee said:

I'm familiar with the different stages of the show. I have a specific interest in the Farm era because of it.

Yes, absolutely 100% watch the Farm era lol no disrespect to j swift, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone dismiss the early years like that. It’s slow-moving soap and super mundane - one of the early storylines focuses on a road running through the farm - but it’s very filling, if that makes sense. Not much “happens,” but you will easily get pulled into that village over the course of maybe the first five episodes.

Unfortunately, it’s literally just the first 20. The following episodes may or may not be on YT at the moment - it feels like they pop up and disappear a lot.

Kim Delaney was AMC's Jenny for three years but that character, and obviously the pairing with Greg, remained at the forefront of the show's identity all the way to the end.

It's interesting to me how, after nearly 20 years of reading mostly negative/tongue-in-cheek/scoffing-type things about Crossroads in mainstream UK media, so many are now quick to point out its merits. I really don't know much about the upcoming film (I did read the RTD article and liked it), so I don't have a real opinion on it, but I do wish that soaps could get respect on their own and not just because someone from the "prestige" circle signals that its okay to respect soaps.

I don't know all of the recasts and what-not, but did that promo really have...no Quartermaines...at all? I mean, definitely no Charleson, Damon, Lee, Elliot, Lewis/Ingle...

58 minutes ago, Darn said:

Was Erica ever consistently referred to as "Mrs. Husband Last Name" during any of her marriages? I notice on soaps that no matter how many times a woman is married she immediately starts being referred to by her latest husband's last name.

The closest I've ever seen is her being credited as "Erica Kane *Current Married Name*" in the closing. I feel like everyone just referred to her as "Erica" or "Erica Kane." The gentleman-type characters she interacted with while single might say "Ms. Kane."

Household staff seem to have referred to her by her then-current married names.

I just finished a rewatch of the first twenty episodes courtesy of Filmrise/Tubi, and I love love love the early days of this soap so much. Tubi also has 300+ episodes from the 90s, but I don’t know if I even want to watch them because I’m just so used to the Farm era.

Irna Phillips’s style was home to office to hospital, periodt. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an episode of an Irna-penned soap that spent much time outside of those settings (along with maybe a courtroom). That’s partly because of the budget they were working with but also because her entire worlds were centered on characters’ home and work lives. Hospitals and courtrooms were the perfect overlap.

Also - the wise, all-knowing elder who advised the characters who were mired in drama. She created that archetype with her very first radio soap.

I'm so confused as to why it's almost 2023 and we still have soap fans who absolutely refuse to share these extremely rare episodes with others or have a million and one reasons why they just can't bear to find out how to share. No one's making money off of this stuff anymore.

I wish I could see even just a few seconds of Jeff and Mary. By all accounts, they were a very popular couple and helped take AMC to the top among ABC soaps in 1974-1975. Mary was a sympathetic and relatable female character while Charles Frank's Jeff was a quintessential soap heartthrob. I don't think I'd ever known that Mary and Erica had become friendly. Thankfully we at least have audio of the episode surrounding her death, but it's truly frustrating that we have literally nothing from their main heyday.

I finally finished season 6 and the series. Seasons 5 and 6 made it a chore to watch, but I powered through most of 6 in the last two weeks or so. I was just ready to put it to bed. I don't even have that much to say, but here goes:

- I think I've finally pinpointed what, for me, makes the final season so BLAHHHH to me. They wrote these characters like they were 30 years old when they were supposed to be young and dumb 20-year-olds. Why in the heck was Joey chaperoning a high school dance when she was barely a year and a half out of high school herself? She was probably still young enough to be in attendance as a guest! Goatee Pacey in a suit as a stockbroker? At age 20!!
- That leads to...the gang was super isolated! Dawson was off doing his thing, Joey was doing her own thing, Jen was kinda sorta doing her own thing but not really doing anything, Pacey was doing his own thing, Jack was also kinda sorta not doing anything but still there. None of these characters were friends anymore, and it was really hard to stay invested in anything when they were so far apart from each other. I get the BTS reasons why, and maybe that's how/why TPTB knew that it was time to pull the plug.
- That also leads to...way too many characters! With each character on his/her own island, each character had his/her own circle of supporting characters, and it was hard to care about ANY of them! Pacey's ugly coworkers with the ugly hair, Dawson's wannabe Hollywood starlet and smartass director, Joey's Todd Manning PhD (complete with his own Starr) and Eddie, etc. Just too many side characters with basically the same storyline.
- Audrey was annoying as all fck and I don't understand why anyone besides Joey was ever "friends" with her or why Joey would have continued to be friends with her after they were no longer roomies.

The finale was nearly perfect, and thank goddddddd they put it in the hands of KW. It had its faults. I never really dug the Jack/Doug thing - Jack deserved a purely happy relationship with a new character (not sure why they stuck in yet another love interest for Joey if he wasn't gonna make it past one damn scene), and Doug should have just been straight so as to shut up the years of BS from Pacey. Speaking of...Pacey as a homewrecker and getting punched so that he spends most of the episode with bruises on his face was unnecessary. And lastly, Jen's death was heartbreaking, and I'm okay with it, but her whole spiel about "never fitting in" and always being an outsider was kinda weird. After all of those years and the relationships she built with the gang (barring the last season, of course), she shouldn't have been feeling like an outsider still.

As for the resolution of the triangle - I couldn't even care less lol once the triangle became all about What Joey Wants, it didn't even matter much anymore.

I've been rewatching a few discs from the Region 1 DVD box set of 70s episodes over the last two or so weeks and really immersing myself in all things classic Corrie again. I'm really considering splurging on a universal DVD player and ponying up the cash to by the bigger 80-episode box sets released by Network. Y'all think it would be worth it? Do those DVD players actually work as they're supposed to?

I just dug myself deep into a hole of reminiscing and ended up reading all 45 pages of the ABC finale thread from September 2011. Guys, how is it that over 11 years have passed, and I still miss this show as much as we all did the first week after it left the air?

In the midst of all of the going-nowhere speculation that we've had in regards to reboots and what-not, whenever I think of "What would they be doing in Pine Valley now?" my mind still imagines All My Children being shot on tape with three cameras in New York City with a cast of 25 or more contract players, broadcast on network television against the backdrop of lunchtime sunshine and underscored by tweeting birds and the mail truck passing by outside. Now that it's all but confirmed that we will never get our show back, I'm not mad at the fact that this is how I will always remember it.

I had no clue Karamo had a talk show. I couldn't stand him in his MTV days and never got on the Queer Eye kick, so it's hard for me to accept him as a source of "help" for anyone, but mannnnn, I just typed in "karamo show" on YouTube, and the thumbnails are so ratchet.

Nick Davis was AMC's it guy in the 70s for sure. Now that I think about it, his departure from the regular cast in 1978 left the show with a major void to be filled. There were other male leads (Tom, Mark, Jeff), but I don't think any of them really matched the vibe and magnetism of Nick. It makes it easy to understand how/why Peter Bergman and Michael E. Knight were able to join the cast and become centerpieces rather quickly.

On 11/3/2022 at 5:39 PM, DRW50 said:

I'm not sure how many people see it as a competition. 

I was referring to the tweet shared by victoria foxton.

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

That much-posted clip of her and Cowles together on AMC is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen on a soap. Just batshit.

Truly insane, and I love every bit of it! I need to rewatch the entire storyline while it's still online. You can tell they just let MC do whatever the fck he wanted to do, and it worked.

Thanks for sharing that. I've never looked much into her life story, so it was interesting to see a bit of it along with learning a small piece about her with Matthew Cowles. No one ever seems to remember that she played Billy Clyde's girlfriend for a while in 1984 - I thought for sure they'd say something as the literally transitioned from the part about their wedding to how busy she was in that year.

I thoroughly enjoyed the 1978 episode! So nice to still be gifted with treats such a this from time to time! I agree with everyone making comparisons between this era and the later 1979-1980 era. This feels like what ATWT should have been all the way through the late 70s/early 80s - still heavy on the domestic troubles with dashes of professional drama, BUT a new youthful quality by way of the Stewart sisters and those in their orbit. Then we get Barbara coming back just a month or two later, then Tom, etc. The right characters were there all along, but man the potential was completely squandered by 1980-1981.

And in what universe does World Turns On and On ever beat the original theme lol The only people who say that are those who started watching in the 80s. The Charles Paul theme, in both of its forms, is As the World Turns, periodt.