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1 hour ago, blueberrywaffle said:

Why are the clips mostly of Kevin, Nikki, Victor, and Lorie?

Did the person not tape the other scenes, or do they cut them out before uploading them?

I am glad to see anything  from 1982/1983, but it just would be nice to see other characters more often.

I'm sure everyone had their personal favorite storylines they followed back in the day, and whatever they weren't interested in probably got the ol' VCR pause button.  Clips are exactly what they are ... "Clips".  Lol

I see in '83 clip "031b" we have some high drama with Dina at the Abbotts and then Nikki at Victor's funeral.  I also see what was probably the last scenes of Stuart Brooks, as he and Liz head out for the cemetery on Memorial Day.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing him after the Memorial Day '83 episode. 

EDIT:  Victor's funeral, not wedding.

1 hour ago, SoapDope said:

Nikki sure is a dimwit if she thinks Victor is a catch. When she did her life history last year she complained the same thing about Greg Foster not be exciting enough for her. She has preferred to be Victor's doormat for nearly 40 years.

$$$$$$.  Money talks.

I wouldn't be surprised if they shut down again due to the virus.  There may be more classics on the horizon (though only some are truly classics to me).

3 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Did anyone like the police corruption/mob storyline from 1982/1983? I get that action/adventure was a big thing on daytime in the 1980s but I find that this type of story doesn't really suit Y&R, it's more of a General Hospital or Days type of story. The 1980s trend Y&R did right was the Dallas/Dynasty influence with Victor, Jabot, and the Abbotts, as that set in motion Y&R as we know it today.

I liked it, and enjoyed the climax to the story at the "ranch".  One similar story I didn't like as well though was the Tyrone Jackson / Mr. Anthony story, where Tyrone was posing as a white guy by using make-up to infiltrate the syndicate.  Really?...  That story kind of "jumped the shark" I felt.

3 hours ago, FrenchFan said:

 

About Derek, he tried to get his hands on Chancellor Industries but when Kay came back from the dead (the Felipe story), she showed Derek his true colors and threw him out the Chancellor Estate. That's all I think.

Did they mend fences on his way out?  When he paid her a visit right before the Newman wedding, they both seemed very cordial and happy to see each other, like nothing bad even happened.

3 hours ago, will81 said:

I liked that they reused sets. Having Nikki and Kevin in her house she shared with Casey and Julia in Lorie's Penthouse. It also gave a connection to the past, no doubt Summer 82 was the end of the original Y&R and the transition to the new one. 

 

Does anyone know if the Abbott residence was first seen in Mar/Apr when Jack and Mamie are first together. I think it was Apr 1, 1982 or near there. Synopsis mentions Jack has an apartment in 1981 and I think most scenes pre-1982 took place there or at Jabot or Jill's place or other locations. I assume the scene of John finding Jack and Jill together in 1981 was just a hallway set. Like the recreation with Jerry Douglas in 1982. 

 

Also Jerry Douglas and Terry Lester's first and I think second scenes together are so good, like they've been working together for a while, rather than they just started, just such a natural flow. A little more uptight than later years, but still the chemistry and flow between them is solid. 

 

Was that a production goof during the scene between Nikki and Kevin when they are fighting after she comes home from The Bayou. Looks like the camera went too high and we saw above the set

 

 

Those were the first Abbott house scenes (where Mamie was calling Jack as "Mister Jack"), which I never recall her saying again, and the first Terry / Jerry scenes.  Also, Robert Lawrence eventually moved into the Prentiss house after Lance was gone.  I remember some mention of it on the show, where he had bought the place from them.  It underwent a very slight remodel (windows, paint, stain,  and furnishings mostly).  There are some scenes of it in the '82 clips.  I don't know where that put Lucas.  Maybe in the apartment above Jonas'.

16 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

Every time a clip cuts from Lilibet Stern or Deborah Adair, a little part of me dies inside 

I liked L. Stern, but once she started living in the Abbott house, it seemed like all she ever did is sit around and mope.  Lol

2 hours ago, OzFrog said:

Just watched the first of the 1983 clips. Victor and Julia !! 

Enjoyed the flashback Julia has to 1980-81(?) of when she and Vic split up after the Michael Scott fiasco.  Also enjoyed Jill & John's scenes on "023b", where Katherine goes off on Jill.  Can't say I was much of a D. Adair fan though.  I always felt her scenes fell a little flat.

Lilibet Stern was very likable as Patty.  Andrea Evans, not so much.  As for Hadley not being on contract, I think he actually was a number of times, but it was always "on again, off again".  To be fair, he probably wasn't always needed around too much when the law enforcement element wasn't a part of a particular story.  As for the most recent "crazy Patty" story, they tried to bring Carolyn Conwell back (Doug Davidson personally asked her to), but she was well into retirement by then, and refused.  So, they did what they could with the family, and most of the actors just kind of ran their course.  I miss seeing the Williams house set in particular.  It was so middle class and relatable.

8 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

 

Really? It's so interesting when the soap stars have "real" jobs on the side like Kate Linder being a flight attendant and Beth Ehlers working for the state of New Jersey (although not while she was acting). I wonder what he did there and if people recognized him. It would have been a fairly new agency at the time. I haven't seen a lot from that era but I assume Carl's job made it easy for the writers to just say he was away on an assignment or undercover, and then, I guess they just eventually stopped bothering to mention him at all, same as they did when Carolyn Cromwell got sick and they didn't even give Mary an onscreen funeral or anything.

I always felt they should have brought him back at least one more time to do better justice to the amnesia storyline, rather than just dropping it the way they did and have him go back to "Ruthie" in Norfolk.  He's done a few little acting jobs here and there in other productions post-Y&R amnesia storyline.  Currently at 89, I don't have high hopes we'll ever see him again, like we did with Liz for a few final scenes when they killed off her character, but who knows.

12 minutes ago, kalbir said:

The Williams family was the replacement for the Foster family and the Abbott family was the replacement for the Brooks family. By the early 1990s, the Williams family was almost all gone and the Abbott family was almost all recasts, yet Bill Bell didn't eliminate the Williams and Abbott families entirely and start over with two new families. 

Further complicating the Williams family is that Brett Hadley (Carl) had another job as well, with FEMA, and it was sometimes hard to bring him back for stories as often as they would have liked, which is partly the reason why he kept disappearing for long periods of time.

1 hour ago, OzFrog said:

 

That was neat to watch! One question though - was that Trish Stewart playing Chris in that clip? And it’s weird seeing 1984 Pamela Peters, as I had only seen her during some 1973 and 1975 episodes on here.

 

And I’m disappointed that they never broached the subject of Lance in that discussion, considering that’s the reason that Lorie left town in the first place.

Too bad Stuart didn't join them, though I think the actor was asked, but declined, which is why Maestro shows up instead.

7 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

I'm really enjoying seeing glimpses of Charlie the Butler at the Newman Ranch. He had been mentioned so much but not seen that I wondered if he was an actual character. I wish the show had let us get to know him better, as they eventually did with Esther.

Does anyone know the Charlie actor's name?

No, but I recall the character was known as Charlie Wong.  I was a bit let down when he was replaced with Miguel, even though he didn't have much of a part.

2 hours ago, Legacy said:

The skipping of the scenes was irritating me soo bad, You can also tell those skipped scenes were probably just as juicy as the ones they only focused on.

 

I love the victor/Lorie/nikki/Lucas stuff i just think those other scenes with other characters were just as interesting in it's own way.

They were clearly a Victor & Nikki & Lorie fan.  Probably didn't care much for certain other story elements, which eats up a lot of tape.  Much as I'd like to see Jack & Patti's wedding among other things now, I'll take what I can get.  Lol ...oh, and I love hearing all of the old background music cues again.  That really takes me back!

1 minute ago, Broderick said:

 

Yes, and by 1983, Y&R was also back in a position to win the Emmy for best show, which hadn't happened since 1975, as the "new improved show" was fully developed and finally realized after three years of wandering aimlessly in the desert (1980-1982).  

It may have been wandering, but things developed at a fast pace, which I liked and was refreshing to see, rather than just plod along for years as some of the stories before and after that time frame have.  Between 1979 and 1983 would include some of my favorite stories, with Suzanne Lynch, Derek Thurston, creepy Edward, Vanessa, Michael Scott in Victor's basement, Pete Walker and the mob, Rick Daros, Lorie getting back Prentiss Industries, the family transitions, Patti shooting Jack, Tony DiSalvo, Nikki's baby drama, Eve Howard poisoning Victor, the list goes on.

7 minutes ago, FrenchFan said:

I wonder if Lorie’s last scene in early August was also Lucas’ last one.

If I remember right, I think it was.

1 hour ago, FrenchFan said:

For those watching the wondeful 1982 clips in the vault, this cast photo is from November 1982. There are a few absents (mostly Eric Braeden and Melody Thomas who might have been on pregnancy break).

 

Back row : Michael Damian (Danny Romalotti), Jay Kerr (Brian Forbes), Doug Davidson (Paul Williams), Michael Evans (Douglas Austin), Robert Colbert (Stuart Brooks), Steven Ford (Andy Richards), Ben Hammer (Alex Morgan)

Middle row : Suzanne Zenor (Claire Laurence), Beth Maitland (Traci Abbott), Eileen Davidson (Ashley Abbott), Terry Lester (Jack Abbott), Jeanne Cooper (Kay Chancellor), Jerry Douglas (John Abbott), Brett Hadley (Carl Williams), Mark Tapscott (Earl Bancroft), Christopher Holder (Brian Bancroft), Marguerite Ray (Mamie Johnson), Carolyn Conwell (Mary Williams), Patty Weaver (Gina Roma)

Front row : Deborah Adair (Jill Foster), Juliana McCarthy (Liz Foster Brooks), Victoria Mallory (Leslie Brooks), Lilibet Stern (Patty Williams Abbott), Lynn Wood (Allison Bancroft)

Floor : Peter Brown (Robert Laurence), Elizabeth Kiefer (Angela Laurence), DeAnna Robbins (Cindy Lake), Meg Bennett (Julia Newman), Brock Peters (Frank Lewis), Kristine DeBell (Pam Warren)

What a great photo!  The Abbott house looks so different from a distance.

8 minutes ago, kalbir said:

The first half of the 1980s we could clearly see the Dallas/Dynasty influence:

Victor Newman, billionaire businessman that owns and lives on a horse ranch.

The wealthy Abbott family owns and operates a cosmetics company.

Dina Abbott abandons her family and years later returns to Genoa City as wealthy widow Madame Dina Mergeron that has inherited her late husband's business which rivals her ex-husband's business.

 

Of course Victor or the Abbotts couldn't own an oil company in Wisconsin and Dina couldn't be a foreign diva that lives in a luxury penthouse as that would be too obvious 

 

I guess Bill Bell went with a cosmetics company for the Abbotts as that was more glamorous than say an artisan dairy or gourmet sausage or craft beer company, you know, things normally associated with Wisconsin 

 

Once Nikki entered Victor's life, that part of the show suddenly resembled the 1964 movie "My Fair Lady", where the wealthy Henry Higgins had a jolly English friend (Colonel Hugh Pickering) who was mostly along for the ride on his rich friend's coattails, and together, the two of them conspired to turn Audrey Hepburn's low-class character (Eliza Doolittle) into a refined socialite.  I had often wondered if one or both of the Bell's were fans of that movie.

1 hour ago, FrenchFan said:

I think the latest episodes uploaded were from May 1982 but I also post June for those interested to finish with Jack and Patty's wedding.

 

JUNE 1982

 

 

Many thanks!

1 hour ago, FrenchFan said:

 

Some new clips from June July are available ! 
I noticed Joe Blair appeared before Jack’s wedding. I thought the character only appeared beginning 1983 !

Yes!  It appears new clips are being posted daily.  The summaries help to fill in the cracks and nail down more exact dates.

1 hour ago, FrenchFan said:

APRIL 1982

 

MAY 1982

 

Thanks again for your work on these!  I would very much enjoy seeing 1979 through Feb. 1982 someday.  Some of my favorite Y&R right there.

7 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

Someone mentioned that they read once in a synopsis that Stuart and Liz met up on Memorial Day 1983 but decided not to reconcile. Sounds like that would have been his last appearance. Stuart must have left w/o Liz because she stayed on the show til winter '85. When the Brooks girls came back for the '84 Victor/Nikki wedding, Stuart was not mentioned.  We saw Liz again in May '86 when Jill was shot. I think it was said she was living in England w/Snapper and Chris, but again no mention of Stuart

I was just looking at some old notes I kept, and yep, you're right.  Memorial Day '83 was the last time for Stuart.

2 hours ago, Legacy said:

Yes "karen" was clearly just that random character that was there to fill in the space they needed and she could leave after and nobody should care much lol.

 

Yes i could definitely see Lorie and Lucas being a couple but that never happened.

 

Well technically Stuart was on until 83 but I would like to see some his last scenes on the show.

Stuart's last scene I recall was him and Liz heading out the door of the Brooks house, ready to head off to live in England (where Snapper & Kris moved to IIRC).  Never again saw him or the Brooks house.  I thought it was late '82, but may have been '83.  I don't know.

1 hour ago, FrenchFan said:

To go with the episodes, summary from March 1982. If you are interested, I will try to post the following months.

 

MARCH 1982

 

This is great!  Do you have earlier summaries, and are they on a website?

1 hour ago, will81 said:

Just watched Nikki and Kevin's wedding. A very pregnant Nikki is light headed due to not eating all day - Victor: "Let's get you some champagne" nutrition advice from 1982, haha

 

More thoughts on 1982

 

Lyn Topping is good as Chris, better than I expected, Howard McGillan seems more like Jim Houghton more stoic and uptight instead of the manic Wings "crazy eyes" Hauser. Probably was a bit late in the day to be trying to revert Greg to a previous incarnation. 

 

Love seeing Stuart and Liz, too bad they have such little to do. Deborah is good, but way too warm and grounded for Jill. 

 

Always felt Victoria's Leslie was too regal and born of money for the almost tomboyish (at least initially) Leslie who had to be pushed out of her shell. When Leslie did glam up more Janice played her as more a modern woman of the 70's. I actually think the Brooks were to be upper-middle class when the show started and maybe were seen to be richer as the show went on. 

 

The Hoff is too laid back Californian for Snapper, almost the complete opposite of the character.

 

I like Tom Ligon, but once Vanessa was gone and Lance knew Brooks was his son, Lucas wasn't needed. Karen is okay, but I probably wouldn't have invested much time in them as a viewer.  

Yeah when I first read about this I pictured Brooks on a boat on water in a soundstage at night with it all being dark, and lots of close ups to avoid showing and scenery or just fake trees and stuff. Glad they went on location. Wasn't rare on Y&R back then.

I agree with most of this.  Never liked "Karen", and never liked McGillan as Greg.  Lucas & Lorie could have been a couple at the end, but anyway...  Too bad we never saw Stuart again after 1982.

1 hour ago, yrfan1983 said:

The remote scenes with Lucas searching for Brooks on the lake are super high-budget and very well-produced! though sadly would be Dennis Cole and Andre Gower's last hurrah, with Tom Ligon and Victoria Mallory not far after...

I always liked Tom Ligon as Lucas.  Too bad he didn't stick around longer.  The girl who played Lorie too.  She was very good.