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This show is so predictable.  Naturally Can get's the storyline.  Meanwhile anyone with color is sidelined.  It is repulsive.

LOL so RC is going to make Lani go crazy.  I wonder who he will have kill her?  He is literally one of the worse writers I have seen in my life.

2 hours ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

She is returning. A binch of the soap journalists confirmed it. tv source daytime confindentials jillian bowe.

She started filming already 

Oh, thanks for the update.  It will not be enough to get me back watching but I am happy for her fans and MM.

Is she returning?  Y/R has no respect for anyone black.  Therefore I can believe that she caved, if she really wanted to return.  Until there is an official announcement I am assuming she is not returning.

This is interesting but will it bring any real change?  There are so many things wrong with this show.  I cant imagine it getting better. 

The actress who played Jacks love interest a few months ago (I cannot remember her name)  was also told they were getting rid of her to free up money for more white cast.  This is so ignorant, I am horrified.  They are going to sink these ratings even lower and it appears that they do not care.  I hate this show.  Poor LL, I hope she gets something better soon.

So Elena and Devon are so boring that they release a spoiler about her moving into his room?  Is this romper room or a soap opera?  I feel like I am reading spoilers for a kids show.

On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 9:47 PM, ajsp35801 said:

 

I'm not actress bashing. Just explaining what I think is the difference between propping versus a lack of interest by TPTB. It's not a knock to Brytni Sarpy. It's a knock to the writers whose lack of interest and inspiration stems from exactly where you suspect. Racism. Yet, somehow, you think that she's being written this way because she's paired with Devon.  As if Devon is bringing her down and the problem. That is also not the case. 

Ok, my apologies, I understand what you are saying now.  To me the issue is not even about Devon.  The issue is that for Elena there is nothing but Devon.  No storyline, no character development and in general as you put it no interest from the writers.  If she were white or anything other than partially black, this would not be the issue.  Soap writers hate black no matter what. 

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

No, it's not. That's called the show being uninterested in the charecter and/or uninspired by the actress. Hilary didn't suffer that. 

I am not sure why you feel the need to actress bash.  The fact is that the writers are pretty crappy to all of the black characters right now.  It is not fair to blame the actors for flat out racism.  Elena was cast to prop and prop only.  

7 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

They hired her specifically as his love interest. I can't see how that's propping. 

Propping as in Elena the character is pretty much a lifeless shell.  We do not get to know her.  Elena will never do anything that is not about Devon.  This is why she is a doctor but cannot work as one.  Whatever job she gets they will not show it.  She will not have friends of her own unless it involves Devon.  Elena will never be shown as an independent character.  She will never have a storyline outside of Devon.  She will only be seen as an extension of Devon.  That is called propping.  Compare that to the other female characters.  Who else is a shell with no purpose but to be a prop?  No one.  Even Ana has a life outside of Devon.

3 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

 

Lack of character development is not something black folks get very often (if at all) on a soap and if this speed bump, Elena, was brought on to prop Devon, the experiment went terribly wrong!

You are right and yes it went wrong but that was intentional too.  If the writers cared things would be a lot different.

3 hours ago, dragonflies said:

So you don't watch but Elena props Devon? LMAO really. Nope

LOL you do not have to watch the show to see that she gets no character development at all.  I read recaps just to prove my point.  If a character is introduced and gets absolutely no development, why are they there?  To prop another character of course.

Well, for Hillary fans I hope that it is true.  Maybe they can get Elena away from propping Devon and give her a character a real chance.  Hillary and Devon can live happily ever after.  I would love if VR came back.  That is probably the only thing that would get me watching again.

Doing a quad with all of the black characters is so stupid and ridiculous.  It screams segregation.  Of course the writing for the black characters already does scream segregation.  Why would this show be anything but segregated.

55 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

Yep. But I don't think they're interested in Devon either. I think absent much better writing, Devon only ignites as a character with the right partner. He had that and now she's dead. That doesn't absolve the show's responsibility and lack of interest in the black canvas, which they cynically try to placate by hiring people to surround Devon onscreen but do very little. It used to happen with Neil post-Dru, too.

You are right.  They do not care for any of their black cast.  The only reason Devon has anything to do right now is because the writers want to play with people who are sentimental after KSJ passing.  The stories for all these character sound so stupid and contrived.  You can tell that no thought went into any of it.

Not watching but I do keep up with spoilers.  The only one the writers are remotely interested in is Devon.  Elena and Ana are extensions of him.  The only reason either character exists is to give Devon someone to interact with.  It has gotten to the point that I just laugh.  Ana gets no love interest and Elena gets no character development.  The writers are very clear with their diversity issues.  It is as clear as day.  How long can they keep this up?  I guess until they fire both actresses. 

I think what makes Y and R so bad is that they usually have a decent amount of black characters on the show.  However those characters are isolated from the rest of the cast and given tiny storylines just so the show can say they did it.  It is almost better to have no black characters than to have them and not utilize them.  It makes the issues even more obvious.  This is why I hated that they have all of the black characters living together.  The writing was on the wall with that move.

Days is nothing special but at least the black characters can have scenes with the rest of the cast.  They have love interest, exes and family.  

GH and B and B have always been dumpster fires.

Well now that the tribute shows are over, I am out again.  Jack and Tracy sound interesting but not enough.  I have no care in the world about Devon and Elena.  As far as I am concerned neither GH or YR know how to write for women of color.  Anna gets no one and Elena gets to sit in Devons apartment and never leave.  Both cases are disturbing and true indication that soaps never change.  That is a big reason why soaps are on their last leg.  I am definitely not made for soaps anymore.  

Yeah, nothing remotely interesting.  Sounds like the same things that happened in April.  Must Miss May.

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

We got to know adult Ana through her family connection. The show did that right. She's ready for more now. That I agree with.  But there is nothing wrong with getting to know either one of those characters through Devon.  

 

Elena's problem is she's been on a month and only had FOUR episodes.  Yes, you read it right  4. She needs more airtime.  Two episodes were with Devon. One was mostly Ana and Jett.  The other was her not saying much with all four characters together. Yet, the complaint is she's got too much airtime with Devon? Eh? I see why folks complain about Ana. She definitely needs a life outside of her family. when Fen left she had nothing much else but devon.  But Elena just got here. We have no idea what the plans are for her. 

 

But I guess somehow, Devon has become the new Neil in folks eyes. Despite this being only his 2nd onscreen romance w/ black female character possibly happening with Elena, somehow folks resent black women being paired with him. That was quick. 

Wow 4 episodes.  That is because she can only air on formerly Winter's Wednesday.   I think that the writing is on the wall with this show.  They write black characters much differently than other characters.  With that I am fairly certain that nothing will change no matter what any of our opinions are.  

47 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

So we're wrong for wanting them to mix it up?

 

I don't get you sometimes  

 

I want them interacting and sharing scenes.

 

Yes, isolation is a problem on soaps. I don't mind it sometimes, it works in some cases. 

 

I'd think you'd agree with us on this, so it's kind of bizarre you're arguing about it. I truly think you're taking this all the wrong way and making it something it's not meant to be.

I agree.  Maybe I was not clear enough.  I have no issue with the black characters having scenes together.  The issue I have is that with the exception of Devon all of their scenes are together.  Elena has been on the show for maybe a month and all of her scenes except 1 have been with Devon.  A whole month and she cannot go out and get coffee or to the mall?  How are viewers supposed to get to know the character when she is constantly in Devon's living room with him?  Writers should let the viewers get to know a character before pairing them off.  Otherwise there is no investment.  

Anna has been practically neutered.  Why cant she have friends and a love interest?  She solely exists for Devon.

The interesting thing about Jack is he has been on the show for how may decades?  He is connected to practically everyone.  He has been shown doing everything.  He is not in need of character development.  Anna and Elena have nothing but Devon and next to no character development.  Newbie's with nothing versus Jack?  There is no comparison.

19 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

The story is just getting started and they need to be introduced slowly. There is no reason why Elena would come on and be all over canvas interacting with a bunch of folks on day 3 and 4. Not yet.  Unless you want folks to hate her like they do rosales. The show should work up to that.

 

I think it's time for Ana to get a love interest though. She's been properly introduced and I feel the audience knows her well enough even if I've seen more folks than I'd expect on a certain social media site that think she's pointless.

 

I really don't get the point of them all living with Devon. Unless it's to make it convenient for Elena to slip across the hall to cuckold Devon under his nose and roof with Nate.  

I guess for me it is ridiculous to have all of the black characters together period.  Not even GH is that segregated.  Anna really should have a love interest but we all know why she is not getting one.

17 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

I saw clips of Elena and Ana. When Ana said they were cousins, I saw a look of something not quite right on Elena's face. Maybe they aren't blood related. I hope they aren't. I'm sick of all black people being related. 

This show has taken it a bit further.  They are all related and they all live together.  Also they all are in the same storyline, primarily shown on Wednesday.  How ignorantly isolating can this show get?  

I feel bad for Gina.  Hopefully she finds a new job soon.