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  1. 26 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

    With all the changes and talk of budget cuts surely the time will come when there will be a cast cull.

    Seriously, who do you think could/should go at this point. personally I'd be happy to see the back of Victor and Phyllis but I know that ain't happening.

    Mal Young had the right idea sidelining Victor. In a perfect he'd be bumped to recurring. Phyllis and her "stupid smirk" serve no purpose since they fired Gina.

    Sharon is probably the vet with the least story potential, plus Josh already isn't invested in her. The writers really "blew they're load" with the Sharon character. She was so overused in the late 2000's & 2010's that there's quite literally nowhere left to go with her. Sharon had about 20 yrs worth of story crammed into less than a decade.

  2. 3 minutes ago, ironlion said:

    Josh Griffith think's he's Tyler Perry, writing everything solo. 

    Does Josh think he's TP, or does the network think he's TP? This likely was a cost cutting move by the suits and Josh obliged. I'm not sure I buy the idea that he's drunk with power and forced the others out. 

    Regardless it's still a disaster waiting to happen. No one person can fulfill all those duties.

  3. Y&R is especially bad at keeping up those ancillary connections. Both in the case of former friends/lover but also extended family & step children. 

    For example if you weren't watching back then you'd have no idea Paul & Lauren were once married. I can't remember a solo scene between them post early 2000's. 

    Also thought it was a missed opportunity ignoring the connection between Kyle & Victor. They shared some really sweet paternal scenes during the Blake Hood/Maura West era. I can't recall MM's Kyle ever crossing paths with Victor.

    Ditto for Jack and his former stepchildren. I get why he and Nick wouldn't be super close given the love triangles. But Victoria  and him seemingly never interact. Likewise Noah and Jack grew close during his marriage to Sharon, which the writers have collectively decided to pretend never happened. 

    Other examples...Chance/Chloe, Sharon/Devon & Lily

     

  4. 2 hours ago, GuidingLighter said:

    If it is that person, the logic makes absolutely no sense. Ugh. Everything, from stories to production design, on this show is dumb, wasted potential, uninspired, cheap, or boring. The sets are cheap and overcrowded. Performances are forced and devoid of emotion. Characters are unlikable. 

    I find myself longing for the MAB days (half the show, except for the end of her run in 2012, was worth watching) or Passanante/Altman’s run that was cut too short when they hit their stride in late 2014. I’d also take boring Sally Sussman over boring Josh Griffith. Each of those regimes had “moments” that I still go back and watch. While I’m on it, the less said about Pratt, the better. Ugh.

    I have to agree with you! Those other regimes had their issues but their was always something worth tuning in for. Somebody to root for, etc.

    You may not have liked the A story but the B story was good, the material may have been blah but the performances elevated it, or a bad story at least had a great payout. 

    Even Pratt *shutters* had moments of greatness. This is the worst shape the shows ever been in. It's maddening that the suits don't seem at all interested in course correcting. Especially when other regimes got cut for far less. 

  5. Ashley & Victor

     

    I found the whole gaslighting plot totally skeevy & difficult to watch. They were so happy and Ashley was actually nice to Adam. Only for him to exploit their relationship which inevitably lead to her tumble.

     

    The baby switch was the cherry on top of this mean spirited sundae.This was the point where Adam's character went way off the rails. It boggles my mind that Jack remained friends with him after this. Heck this story should've been the death of Shadam.

     

    It was even more heart breaking because Victor had just lost Sabrina and their daughter not even a yr earlier. 

     

    I actually liked this era of Y&R but avoid it on rewatches because it's just too sad.

  6. 40 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

    When watching the triad video of Jill... seeing Brenda Dickson, Deborah Adair, and Jess Walton playing Jill.... shows that it isn't always the writing.. but how the actor reads the words that determine the direction of a character.

     

    Even when DA was trying to camp it up, she still played a softer Jill... while Brenda was almost cold in her delivery.. while Jess had a combo of the camp of Brenda.. with a fiery undertone.  

     

    Same with seeing the three Ashley's... Eileen was harsh on the outside/fragile on the inside.. Shari was just plain hard/cold... and Brenda was soft on the outside/made of steel on the inside (Brenda was my fav Ashley).

    Well said! Each actress brought so many subtle nuances to the role of Jill (Bond Gideon also). Through every recast the DNA of Jill has remained, watching the different portrayal I never felt like Jill was out of character merely evolving over time. That continuity is a testament to Bell's writing and their strong performances. 

     

    Contrast that with a character like Billy or Adam where it seems like each new actor is literally portraying a different person.

    (I also loved Brenda's version of Ashley ❤️)

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