Mona Kane Croft

Does anyone know if Jordon Charney is still planning to appear at the AW 60th Reunion?   

2 hours ago, Avatar610 said:

"Bright Promise" exists in full as it was made by Bing Crosby Productions, whose holdings are now part of CBS/Paramount.  The show is available for syndication like DS and DRS, but amazingly no takers so far.  

Interesting.  I'm surprised RetroTV hasn't jumped on this, since they had some success with The Doctors, and about four-years ago were serious about getting Edge of Night.  Maybe Paramount's syndication costs for Bright Promise are too expensive, or maybe BP is bundled with other shows that RetroTV is not interested in airing.  

Paramount could always decide to stream BP on Paramount+.  Wishful thinking??

1 hour ago, Xanthe said:

Oh, I'm so glad! I had sort of assumed that Pat would have been living there and ruled it out. I wonder where Pat was. Probably in and out of prison herself.

Pat moved into a high rise apartment building after her divorce from John around 1975-76.  And this is where we see her living during John's death episode (March 6, 1979).  Pat remained in that apartment until the character's departure from the show around 1982.    

2 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

For what it's worth, after Evan's murder, based on the AWHP synopses, John was in the hospital for some time. He was released in March 1978 and apparently wherever he was living, Michael and/or Marianne lived with him. 

I don't see anything on the Addresses page that is obviously John post-Olive. In fact I don't see an address for Olive's grand house.

http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/address.html

I glanced at the Soaps & Serials novelizations but I'm not sure they cover this period so probably nothing illuminating there.

Thank you, that information is very helpful!  So based on what we see in the March 6, 1979 (John's death) episode, Michael was still living in John and Pat's former house.  And if John and Michael were living together, then John had returned to the house he had shared with Pat since around 1964-65 (and I believe John lived in that same house with his first wife, who was Lee Randolph's mother).   Thank you again!!

29 minutes ago, j swift said:

I assumed he lived at the cabin where the fire occurred, but I could be mistaken.

Actually, that cabin was just a cabin Alice borrowed from her nursing supervisor for a long-weekend.  Neither John nor Alice had ever been to that cabin before the night of the fire.   

Does anyone remember where John Randolph lived after he and Olive split-up?  If my memory is correct, Olive stayed in the big house John had built for her.  But I'm unsure where John lived after their divorce.  Did John return to the house he had shared with Pat?  Where was he living when he died?   

Any news about where the show will be produced?  

I definitely wish this show the best, and I plan to watch it.  But I understand it will probably be a 60-minute soap, which concerns me a bit.  I think 30-minutes would be a better decision.  It has always been difficult to get a new soap opera started.  And there really have been no soaps that premiered in the 60-minute format that were ultimately successful.  It think it would be wise to premiere the show at 30-minutes, then a couple of years later -- if the ratings are high -- expand it to 60-minutes.  Or maybe just leave it at 30-minutes.  

6 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Michael Fairman

 

I hope somewhere in the scripts for these episodes there is at least a mention of the old feud between Marie Horton and Liz Chandler.  PLEASE don't portray them as old cherished friends!!!   

10 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Mona, where are you?

Hi ya, Contessa.  I'm flattered at your request that I put in my two-cents regarding this particular conversation.  But I really think I've said it all before, and anything I type will just be a repeat of stuff I've posted over and over.   And I do realize I have a tendency to repeat things, so I'll sit this one out.  But again, thanks...

39 minutes ago, Melroser said:

The gorilla storyline would never have happened if it weren't for the cancellation. It was a lame way to do a "throw back" to the show's history on a short time frame.

If they wanted to do a "throw back" to the show's history -- well, they had Sam Groom in the studio.  He should have played Russ Matthews (Rachel's first husband and Josie's father), but NO.  Let's get a guy in a gorilla costume as a nod to the past.  Brilliant.  Brilliant.

8 hours ago, Xanthe said:

As I understand it Mac was always less snobbish than Iris regardless of background. And with the later storylines it wasn't clear to me whether Mac had come from a wealthy background or if he had married a woman whose family came from money and that it was her stepmother's influence that had brought Iris up the way she was.

It was established during Mac's first few years on AW, that he was born into a wealthy Manhattan family and that Cory Publishing was at least three generations old at that point.  At one point, Mac admitted to Iris that he had never really loved her mother (his first wife) and that the marriage had been arranged.  This was before Iris's adoption storyline.  He also mentioned to Rachel that his own mother was a controlling woman consumed by social status, who was not very kind or loving.  

This is why the show's 25th anniversary episodes were something of a retcon -- suggesting that the entire company -- Cory Publishing, was only 25 years old in 1989.  There was also a period in the 1990s when the writers retconned Mac's personal background, suggesting he had been a self-made man who created Cory Publishing from scratch.  Too bad they didn't stick with Mac's original origin story, because that is what gave Mac much of his motivation -- both professional and personal.  

28 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

I get it, but I think it can also be beneficial at times. For instance, DAYS didn't know the Brandon Barash version of Stefan paired up with Camila Banus' Gabi would be a hit with viewers, so by the time their material began airing, the show already killed off Stefan, which led to the idiotic and completely unnecessary creation of Jake, the twin. 

Well, instead of creating the idiotic and completely unnecessary Jake, TPTB could have just lived with the decision that Stefan was dead and Brandon Barash was off the show. Not every popular actor needs to be recast as a different character or return from the dead. It's okay for them to just be gone.  Fans don't run the show, or at least they shouldn't.   

On 4/6/2024 at 9:52 PM, Paul Raven said:

To have Neal suddenly appear as Mac's nephew was odd. as stated I don't believe there was any exploration of his history/connection to Mac,just a quick way to tie a newbie  to established characters.

As for Adam replacing Neal,there was a writer change and they probably decided to go with a 'hotter' actor. Lupone was definitely a character actor, not a leading man type. Surprised he was also cast as Tom Bergman on SFT.

 

It was very strange to suddenly have (not one, but) TWO of Mac Cory's nephews arrive in town as law enforcement officials, with no mention of that being unusual -- considering the multi-generational wealth of the Cory family. Wouldn't it have been expected that someone (Mac? Rachel? Ada? Jamie? The maid? or someone?) might mention how odd it was to have two brothers coming from a millionaire family and choosing law enforcement as a career? Trying not to stereotype, but it was written as if the Corys were suddenly working-class, with two nephews "movin' on up" into law enforcement.  

I'm not suggesting it should have been a huge deal in the scripts, but still it was worthy of mention.   And the situation itself could have made for some good social-class drama, had it not been ignored.  Imagine how Iris would have felt about two of her cousins joining law enforcement?  Or how about Neal and Adam's mother? She could have come to Bay City to express her displeasure about her sons' choices.   Lots of opportunities for class-conflict that were ignored or lost.  Just my opinion, of course.  

3 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

We can only hope, especially since we're about to have a whopping FIVE soaps on the air in the near future. Come through The Gates! 

But really, it's just the ridiculous taping schedule that is irksome. It's literally impossible for them to course correct something that isn't working. 

I understand what you are saying, but sometimes I think there is too much course correcting on modern soaps.  Social media has made every soap opera fan an expert and a self-appointed critic.  And when TPTB get a whiff that the audience doesn't like something, they change it, rewrite it, or eliminate it. Often too quickly, with too little thought, and with too MUCH attention paid to social media.  I remember soaps in the old days, when the writers wrote what they thought was best, and the audience just watched it, or they didn't. And believe me, soaps were better 45 years ago than they are today.  Personally, I believe writers are better writers than self-appointed internet critics.  So I rather like that DOOL gets to avoid all that.  My opinion only.   

16 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

I swear, when the time comes that this show gets the ax, it's going to be like a Port Charles situation where they've already filmed what's gonna air and there's no chance to go back into the studio to shoot a proper finale. 

Since Peacock operates differently than a network, if the time comes to cancel the show, maybe Peacock will handle it differently than a network. Maybe Peacock will give them enough advance notice to wrap things up and have a nice ending.  

But I understand DOOL is doing very well on Peacock, so maybe there is no need to worry about cancellation.  Who knows??

23 minutes ago, te. said:

I mean, I'm 99.9% sure that it's DAYS since they're obviously putting Doug's send-off together at the moment.

With that said - I'd like those two episodes to turn into more, but who knows how much she acts these days or that she'd even be interested in doing DAYS with the type of filming schedule they use.

She actually still works quite a lot.  Mostly guest shots on primetime dramas and comedies.  And in the fairly recent past, she has said on FB that she would be thrilled to return to DOOL.  

Maree Cheatham is saying on FB that she recently booked a two-day television appearance, but she hasn't revealed what show.  Could Marie Horton be returning??

7 hours ago, adrnyc said:

I don't understand what certain posters on this board need to hear in order to understand that P&G has made it perfectly clear they have zero interest in their soap opera history. Where's the mystery?

That is simply untrue.  But I certainly have zero interest in arguing about it.  So keep on believin'...

31 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Rachel & Ada on AW were only one of many things that were nowhere to be found in her book at all.

She covers 3 things in order of how much attention is paid. 

1. her life & familiy

2. All My Children

3. One Life to Live

GL no, AW no, Loving no, The City no, ABC Writer's development no, ... 

Also I was one of many fans when reading it when it first came out who were horrified by its having so many errors.

This week I've gotten it out of storage with an eye to re-reading it.

 

I know for a fact that Agnes Nixon was one of the two or three best writers in the history of daytime. And she was likely the very best head-writer Another World ever had.  But sadly, her book (My Life to Live) is so full of errors it probably should never have been published.  There are things in her book that will go down in history as truth, when there are simply incorrect.  Not two or three errors, but likely dozens of errors. Her book will do much more harm than good, as future television historians use it as a source for soap opera history.   If only Ms Nixon had written this book ten-years earlier.  Things might be very different.   Just my opinion, of course.   

47 minutes ago, denzo30 said:

Speaking of characters like Rachel & Olive, I wonder how much on screen interaction there was between the two characters? I seem to remember at this time, that many characters never interacted with each other from another storyline.  I don't remember interaction with Olive & Iris even.  There must have been paths that were crossed but its not like how soaps became in the later years with the whole cast almost mingling. 

I don't remember Olive having much interaction with Rachel. Olive was more focused on causing trouble for the Matthews clan -- especially Alice, John, Michael and Marianne, etc.  Olive did have some interaction with Iris, because John was Iris's attorney.  Several times when John visited Iris at her house (before Iris moved to the penthouse), Olive insisted on going along.  She wanted to "get in good" with Iris, but Iris wasn't having it.  LOL.   

3 minutes ago, danfling said:

 

 

 

Actress Bonnie Bartlett (Vanessa #2) has written her own autobiography.

That's great.  I wonder if she recounts much about her starring role on Love of Life.  I first remember Bonnie Bartlett from St Elsewhere, I believe.   Audrey Peters was the only Vanessa I can personally remember from Love of Life.    

2 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Did Brian have a home set after he split from Iris? I feel like I chiefly remember him at his office when he wasn't visiting other homes or squiring ladies to public events.

I'm not sure Brian was completely split-up with Iris when he was seeing Olive, because Iris was still in town. Olive was written off around April 1979, and Iris didn't go to Texas until around June 1980. I don't remember Brian having an on-screen home, other than the penthouse he shared with Iris.   And after Iris went to Texas, I don't believe the audience ever really saw Brian's home.      

2 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Did Olive have real feelings for Evan or was she just using him and vice versa?

Who knows, really??  Since Olive married John Randolph for social status, it seemed she and Evan had more of a passionate connection. So she probably did have feelings for him.  To me, Olive seemed like a more grown-up version of early Rachel -- social climbing, manipulative, and overtly sexual. Olive is who Rachel might have become, if she had not met Mac.   Olive was one of Lemay's best additions to AW, in my opinion.  

20 minutes ago, Olive Randolph said:

It’s where Olive and Evan would plot to kill John - it was a magnificent set - wish there were images

Also, after Even was killed and Olive and John spit-up, Olive had short romances with Brian Bancroft and Dan Shearer. So those two were romancing Olive in that house.  

12 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Thinking back to liking/or not Swajeski, and earlier, Pete Lemay, I thought it might be interesting to list our favorite writers. Me, I like writers, so my list is one of 15 names! 

Lemay, Labine, Curlee, Swajeski, Hurst, Mulcahey, the Dobsons, Marland, Val Jean, CCulliton, Falken Smith, Bell, Nixon & Phillips

Half have died; half are living. One is retired. Curlee, Swajeski, Hurst & Jerome Dobson are not writing in soaps. 

Are you listing only head-writers at Another World?  Or your favorite soap-opera head-writers in general?