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That Jim and Kathryn scene was a long time coming, lots of history revealed there.

Hanna and Kathryn are always a highlight.

Cuckoo Bananas done gone and hit Wyatt upside the head. I know he was going to end up hurting him. Wyatt played him to the left and it was so obvious, but Cuckoo was so desperate that he couldn't even see it. And Wyatt did know that he was in the bed with him, I figured that he knew.

This episode made the entire first season for me.

Perry let Wyatt use his brain and trapped Creeper Jeffrey perfectly. Right up until he hit him with the golf club. Did anyone else see him try and plead his case to Wyatt to keep him from leaving?

whn watching the show, I was wondering how Katherine birthed her and if she actually had any of Jim's DNA. She is so damn weak and fragile, that its pathetic.

TP will have to find it in him to actually start having Amanda not give a crap what her momma and daddy wants and I don't think it's possible.

It's just odd that TP has felt the need to have none of the "Haves" offspring to have any sort of inner drive/need of being freed from that privileged background.

Wyatt's an addict and really dumb.

Amanda lives in a sad and never ending world of self hatred, lack of self-esteem and self harm.

Jeffrey's tied to doing what Veronica wants and living his sad and creepy life in denial.

It shouldn't just be Candace, having the sense to break free from her past family life.

All the Jeffrey/Wyatt scenes are painfully laughable.

I still don't see or think that Wyatt and Creepy will share any sort of mutual kiss with each other.

I think TP will script something, in which Wyatt gets drunk or Jeffrey gets him drunk and then tries to kiss him.

Either way, Wyatt's going to throw a punch.

It's interesting, that the one soap staple Tyler hasn't touched on, is the pairing that the audience could support in wanting to see them together as a couple.

Candy and Jim

Wyatt and Jeffrey

Jim and Celia

Benny and what's her face

I thought it was surprisingly good too. It just points out how bad some of the writing is, since the first half of the eppy was devoted to Jeffrey's hissy fit of EPIC proportions---which was cringeworthy beyond belief.

Even Amanda seemed almost life-like.

I would be saddened if Jeffrey doesn't have a "Psycho" moment with Veronica. I don't feel any sort of sympathy for him, because he's such a creep. He's using his position as a rehab "therapist", to basically be involved in his obsession's life 24/7.

The way that he went off on the girl and then the desperate call to his ma?

But, Wyatt needs more "proof" of Jeffrey's true feelings/intentions/plans for him.

What sort of "therapist" sleeps in the same bedroom as their patient? There should be, at least two or three guest bedrooms in that house, yet Jeffrey's sleeping on the couch? In Wyatt's bedroom?

That clip was funny, Cheap.

"Ste's not a bad boy, he's a lost boy."

http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/quotstes-not-a-bad-boy-hes-a-lost-boyquot.php

I didn't even realize that she was the only cast member not to leave the house till now. Maybe they are going for an American Horror Story type twist when she already died of the cancer and now cant leave the house...lol

It took me awhile to realise that Kathryn's standing set is always the mansion and she only interacts with Hannah, Veronica and a little screen time with Jim.

Maybe Perry didn't have enough money in the budget to build a nice restaurant set?

Right.

But anyway, I agree with Eric83 that this would be better if it was under the pen of someone other than TP or if there was someone there to balance out his tropes. The idea itself isn't even anything new or Earth-shattering, and it really doesn't have to be, but damn, it's gotta at least be interesting for more than five minutes at a time (and I know I'm being generous). All that dead air could be used to help flesh these characters out, and I don't know...maybe get them out of the house for a change.

Hell yes.

I know that Kathryn says she has doctor's appointments, but she's never out of her mansion. Shouldn't she have lunches and teas scheduled at whatever private club, her family has joined?

Have her meet Veronica somewhere?

Show up at Amanda's new place?

So Jeffrey's purpose for his entire duration on the show is to follow Wyatt around like a puppy that wants to be taken home and to be Wyatt's babysitter at the same time? Whatever Tyler Perry's mindset is, I'd hope he'd have something slightly more interesting in mind for ALL of these characters.

LOL. Sadly, I do think that Jeffrey will be the "sad, lonely and in denial" guy for a bit longer. I don't think that Perry has the plan of Wyatt slowly falling for Jeffrey. I think, we'll see some new guy introduced, that has an instant attraction to Jeffrey right before the first season (or series) finale.

Maybe teens would talk that way in real life....but they're not teens. And the editing makes it sound way too stilted. You shouldn't hear crickets chirping between nearly each and every response either. There was one that seemed like five seconds long. That's forever in tv time. It's almost like Perry is leaving in space for a tv laugh track...only this ain't a comedy. At least not an intentional one.

I hate to sound like a downer all the time, so I will give one positive comment. If Tyler Perry does nothing more than relaunch Crystal Fox's acting career, that is a good thing. It's clear she deserves it.

That scene was driving me nuts. Crystal and the actress, who portrays Hannah are the strongest performers on this show. I hope that both of their careers are relaunched.

ETA: The possibility of Wyatt and Jeffrey being a couple would be capitalized on, if the show was in the hands of another EP and writer.

It's inconsistent, because there was nothing to slowly (over the first three episodes) set up as to why Celine was so damn bent out of joint over Hannah touching Jim's things, her getting close to Kathryn or that the other former maid talk about her, behind her back.

It was all in that one long ass scene and that was it. We didn't even get follow up in another scene between Celine and Hannah. It was just dropped.

Anna believes that Patrick is capable of doing anything, if the end result is that he's in control. She knows that Dodger was in love with Texas and with her marrying Will, that Patrick would have killed her, in revenge for breaking their son's heart.

Will did kill Texas. No one knows that it's him or that he can actually walk.

The Backlot Interview with Aaron O'Connell aka Wyatt Cryer

http://www.thebacklot.com/aaron-oconnell-on-tyler-perrys-gay-storyline-on-the-haves-and-the-have-nots/06/2013/

IMO, Kirkwood will never bring Craig Dean back to the show, with the original actor or a recast. I think, McDean is over and done with for him.

Remember, he was the one, who okayed the scene of JP's return, in having him chase after Craig, on a bus with a sunset on it.

Sadly, Kieron Hobbs had no other role to play on Hollyoaks, once Kirkwood was done with his contract, back in 2008.

I don't remember.

It was weeks ago.

That scene, was after JP and Matthew finally came back to town. Doug was pissed, that JP didn't tell him about why he left town and he wasn't going to let him disregard his feelings anymore. This was after Doug had a talk with Ste in the deli and Ste said some BS about being concerned for him, but his tune changed, once the topic of the club and Brendan Brady popped up.

I live for and love Dodger... Agreed about Merci....she's just amazing. I love all the brothers except the one who drugged Maxine.

Oh, you're talking about the rubbish thug Robbie. I'm glad Sandy told him he had to leave for a bit, to get himself together.

I hope Lindsey tells Joe about the attempted rape by Paul. Paul needs his ass whipped.

Ste's continuing on his neverending cycle of self-destruction is boring, but it has to happen. If not, some folks would rage about him being over Brendan to damn quickly and cheapening their relationship.

Poor Sinead....I'm guessing that scumbag raped her....just horrible. I can honestly say that after Melanie and Lindsey on QaF.....Esther and Tilly is the first lesbian couple I've felt emotionally attached to. I just find them so endearing. Esther seems so sad and after all she's been thru with the bullying, etc i really hope she gets some happiness (at least for a while what with it being a soap and all).

Poor Sinead....I'm guessing that scumbag raped her....just horrible. I can honestly say that after Melanie and Lindsey on QaF.....Esther and Tilly is the first lesbian couple I've felt emotionally attached to. I just find them so endearing. Esther seems so sad and after all she's been thru with the bullying, etc i really hope she gets some happiness (at least for a while what with it being a soap and all).

Yeah. That's what I got from that scene as well. Especially the aftermath of Sinead, still in her outfit from the night before, the bruises on her face and shoulder. That guy, was determined to get more than just his money back from her.

The buildup for Esther and Tilly is very lovely and something that is nice to see on any soap these days. Esther, has been so lonely for so long, that she's rightfully hesitant about trying to pursue anything romantic, with someone that has hurt her (unintentionally in the past). While Tilly doesn't want to rush anything with Esther, but she feels that they have something that is worth taking a risk. Jen put her through through the ringer, in their affair, so it's great that Tilly's not sworn herself off letting herself be open for another chance at love.

They basically traded her for Roxanne McKee, who also played Dany's woman confidante before she betrayed her. It seems if you were on Hollyoaks or Skins you're a shoo-in.

Well, let's see if it works for casting season 4 for Emmett, Claire, Neil, etc.

Can't wait for

Mercedes and Dr. Browning's wedding events

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Now, that's going to be crazy and fitting for both of those characters.

Unless I missed a scene I'm pretty sure Sinaeds baby is Rhys's. The Brendan lovefest from some viewers was abit strange. I've noticed it with a few gay characters no matter how awful they are or how dull they are. Some act like there the most amazing person to ever be in a Soap. I did like Emmett as an actor but those who wanted him with Ste, NO,NO,NO! All he did was keep punching him urgh

Sinead's baby daddy is dearly departed Rhys.

As for those punches, SoapgirlUk, they were all punches of love. We just don't understand or get how "epic" Stendan's love for each other, and we should disregard how Brendan shouldn't have abused Ste for so long. It was all "epic", so it made the abuse "different".

I can't watch this until they stop acting like Brendan is a victim and that Ste should bow down to him. I get annoyed when I read comments that Ste needs to know how much he hurt poor precious Brendan by thinking Brendan was a murderer. Brendan IS a murderer, but beyond that, he beat Ste black and blue, again and again, and loved every minute of it. This story has repeatedly glorified domestic violence and made a violent, sadistic monster into the true victim. Ste is now a worthless character.

Ditto, CarlD2. I just can't watch that storyline (or any storyline) that focuses on Brendan/or Ste, until the show stops focusing on the abuser and "his problems", while making fodder for what Ste's been through with letting himself be involved with that man. And yes, these two characters will never be the "saintly gays" of US based soaps, but I just don't find entertainment in domestic violence, no matter how "hot" the portrayers may be in the fictional storyline.

Brendan's cross necklace.

Wow....so are we back in the 50s? It's like Ste got 'pinned' by wearing Brendan's cross. I'm surprised Ste's not going around wearing one of the Double B's blazers.

At least he hasn't raped anyone out of love yet, so that's something.

I saw a comment saying that Ste is wearing some cross or there's a cross background in his opening credits shot. I guess that's to remind viewers - if it wasn't already 99.9999% obvious - that Ste exists solely as Brendan's property.

What does the wearing a cross represent for Ste being Brendan's property?! It sounds like one of those fangirl things that only makes sense in that fandom, so that they're convienced things are going their way. Like when Brian gave Justin a DRAWER in his apartment (on QAF US). It meant that Brian had also given Justin his heart. Or, when on ATWT, Noah will be so damn judgemental towards Luke, whenever he did something "bad" in order to help himself or others with something they wanted. Yet, it's okay for Luke to do things to benefit Noah.