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June 16 1975

Jo's 3rd husband Tiny Vincente dies of a heart attack.

June 1975 was a spectacular month for Search. Tony suffered a heart attack, fell down the stairs at Henderson Hospital, and died attempting to save the life of young runaway Robin Kennemer. His death greatly affected Jo and Scott Phillips. After Tony's funeral, Scott admitted he loved Kathy and had never loved his wife Jennifer, who was pregnant with his child. Neurotic Jennifer became hysterical, railing at him for deceiving her with a marriage based on nothing but lies. She pulled away from him and smashed through the plate glass patio door. Her spleen ruptured. She hemorrhaged and lost the baby. When she awoke following surgery, her face was swathed in white bandages. A shard of glass had sliced through her beautiful face, leaving a hideous scar down her cheek. Jennifer's slow motion plunge through the door is one of the most iconic sequences on the series. It was such a sensation that CBS ran promos for it in primetime for weeks afterward. Ann Marcus wrote a marvelous soap.

Thank you, saynotoursoap. On the subject of Laryssa Lauret/Karen, I found a cast list in one of the old magazines from a year later than that and her name was included. The year after that, she joined GL sans the brunette wig, wearing her own lovely long blond hair.

I believe you. It was no doubt a situation where an old cast list was used or just a mistake on the part of the editor. I was watching at the time.

Karen returned at the end of summer in 1974. The story arc of her amnesia, the kidnapping of Erich, and the attempted murders of Karen and Carolee lasted less than six months. Karen subsequently returned to Germany. Unless she was shown in flashback, Laryssa Lauret did not appear again on The Doctors after the winter of 1975.

She was lovely playing Simone on Guiding Light. I preferred her natural hair to that brown wig. It is a shame that she had such a short tenure on GL and was not brought back for Bill's death and Hillary's.

I just caught up to September 11 & 12 1968 where Steve and Karen are married and living in the apartment. Karen is all jumpy that Steve is going to seduce her. How long does Karen stay on the show ?

Laryssa Lauret remains with The Doctors until

February 1975, with a two year break in between when the character is presumed dead.

I believe the show kept the title card over the first scene opening sequence until the late 70s (1977ish). The music was changed in '71. This is all based off of articles written for long-dead soap websites, so it could be inaccurate.

You are correct, All My Shadows. The title card opening over the first scene was dropped with the March 29, 1977, episode. The "pop" version of the Score Productions theme debuted the same day in a sixty minute special episode celebrating the series' 14th anniversary.

Who did the music for the show post-Robert Cobert? I can't find any information about that.

Amy, Score Productions provided the music after Bob Cobert left. Score was used for many other NBC soaps, including Another World, Somerset, and How to Survive a Marriage. I like Cobert's theme, but the one I identify most with the series is the the 1971-77 theme, which I consider one of the most beautiful in serial history. However, Cobert's cues and underscores are gold. Many are recycled from the work he did on The Young Marrieds. One of the most prominently played is Ann's theme from TYM.

Good episodes today. Mostly setup for what's coming. Poor Steve. I must have missed it, but is Mike pre-med or an intern or what? I believe Matt said, Technical Services, but I'm unclear of what that means.

One thing I want to praise is the long scenes. That model makes it feel like a lot happens in the span of the episode. Plus, you get those great character building moments, which is a great benefit for new characters. It's kind of a shame that we got away from that.

In those days, I believe technical services referred to staff members who had knowledge of or experience in clinical settings but were not actually certified or licensed. They performed some technical aspects of patient care under the supervision of qualified staff. They could work with equipment and perform some very routine hospital procedures, almost like on-the-job training. It was a way for those entering the medical field to receive exposure to the whole specturm of hospital care. Mike has recently graduated from college, pre-med, and is beginning medical school.

I cannot believe that no one has commented on the blooper in the September 24 episode. Chris Schermering documented it in his entry on The Doctors, though he ascribed it to David O'Brien instead of Carolee Campbell. "Steve just balled Mike...out in the hallway."

Oh, the potential for life to imitate art...

I was totally shocked but it and that they allowed the word "abortion."

I have always maintained that The Doctors was the most topical and adult drama of its era, at least during Rita Lakin's writing tenure. Perhaps in the same episode, or one surrounding it, Nick prescribed a dose of reality for Althea by mentioning the assassinations of Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King, which also surprised me.

On a lighter note, for those who have not watched today's episodes, we have our first glimpse of the late Peter Burnell as Mike Powers, a role he will play longer than any other actor in the part.

True. I do wonder. I guess maybe it could be spring? If I ever find any SOD synopses I have from that era I should check...

It aired in June 1981. Tim and Morgan's car accident occurred as part of May 1981 sweeps.

Steven Jackson! I wonder if this was his last appearance.

You may be right. The following month, Stefan was appearing on The Edge of Night in their Switzerland sequences.

Who recognized Natalie Ross as the patient counseled by Maggie in today's episode? Natalie is best remembered as the snobbish Enid Nelson on All My Children.

Thanks. Did Dave Davis ever appear again in the years to come?

Yes.

Anyone know what year Margaret Klenck debuted as Edwina Lewis? Looking it up, I'm getting 1977, 1978 and 1979 has options and I don't know which one is correct.

Margaret joined OLTL in October 1977.

I mean this with the utmost sincereity, Carl, it is so sweet that you watch with your mother. If mine were alive, I would watch with her, too, and she might even enjoy it. Regardless of your relationship, you should all appreciate your mother. You have no idea the loss when they are gone.

I am curious. How do you watch? One episode a day, five days a week? I wish that I could, but I have no self control. I watch the full hour, every week night, 7 to 8pm without fail.

It is my understanding that Retro is contracted for one full year of airing -someone correct me if I am wrong. This would take us to the beginning of December 1969, at least. Virginia Vestoff starts in the autumn of 1969, I believe around October/November, so we should definitely see at least a few weeks of her, should Retro not sign up for another year. In order to see Nancy Barrett, Retro will have to agree to another year. Nancy begins in the summer of 1971.

Both were a tremendous blow to the series, though in my opinion, Sherry's loss was the greater. Liza was Stu's granddaughter. She was part of the core. I liked Travis and Rod Arrants very much, but Travis always existed only within Liza's realm. I felt that it was mistake not to build the Sentell family. Oh, he certainly had a series of family members over the years: Renata, Lee, Mignon, Rusty -but they were all quickly killed off or sent off. Travis never had a strong family base, which is what the show eventually tried to establish with the McClearys, and I applaud them for that. Truthfully, Jo's son Duncan Eric should not have been killed in the 50s. This decision later undermined the structure of the series, just as one writer giving Lesley a long lost daughter on General Hospital helped save that soap.

I also regret that when AOL's P&G channel made episodes available years ago, Search for Tomorrow did not begin with its earliest available episodes as the other soaps did. I thought the 1979-80 era was wonderful. The Corringtons did a marvelous job with Search. Losing them to NBC really derailed Search for Tomorrow. At the apex of Travis and Liza's romance, during the summer of 1979, Search actually went to the number one spot in the Nielsen ratings for one week, which was quite an accompolishment.

I am very thankful to all those you mentioned above who have brought TD back for a whole new generation of viewers to enjoy. I certainly do; I was born over a decade after the episodes we are watching now were filmed.

There is at least one cast member of TD from this era still with us and watching along with us - I found Carolee Campbell's Ninja Press website and emailed her, sending the link in my message. I just heard from her a couple of days ago and she said, "I am all caught up"!!

For those who aren't with us anymore, I hope their family members - spouses, kids, grandkids - are able to watch the episodes and enjoy them, too.

Wonderful, Amy! Where have you been? I noticed that you stopped posting near Christmas. It is good to see you have returned.

I thought Jada Rowland was an excellent replacement as Carolee and played the role with such intelligence, but I also have a very special place in my heart for Carolee Campbell. I loved her down-to-earth portrayal and good-natured, humorous self-deprecation. As much as I enjoy seeing these episodes, most of which I do not remember or never saw, I do hope Retro runs The Doctors long enough for us to get into the real nitty-gritty of Steve and Carolee's romance, and the complications caused by the awful Dan Allison.

Happy New Year to you!

Big Friday cliffhanger!!

This week is the first I've noticed that used flashbacks and voiceovers.

Lydia is doing great as Maggie.I wonder if the fact we know she's going to be there for years colors our perceptions of the recast?

The fashions are great(thank you Orbachs).One thing I dislike is Lydia's hair. Compared to the 60's flip Bethel was rocking before she left,Lydia's looks little stiff and set. In later years I've seen it way blonder and straighter.

Carl you need to binge watch and catch up!!

I noticed these, too, Paul. When Steve's disembodied, chroma-keyed head taunted Karen, I was reminded of Dark Shadows! Was your mis-spelling of Ohrbach's an intentional wink at the Dark Shadows credit scroll? Part of the fun for me is surveying the dresses, the falls women wear in their hair, and the false eyelashes. I remember it took my mother an eternity to put on her "face", as she called it, and all of the wigs and falls.

Lydia allows her hair to grow much longer. I do not recall her hair being the cut it is now, so for most of the early 70s, it's the longer, lighter style. She reverts back to much shorter and darker hair near the end of the series.

I think you're right, Slick! She looked so familiar to me but I couldn't place her. If it's her, I had no idea that Jo had been a redhead.

I am certain she is Jo Henderson. I recognized her, too, the instant I saw her. The cheekbones and the eyes. Even with the red hair, she is unmistakeable. This is fifteen years before she would star daily on NBC's Search for Tomorrow, and exactly 20 years before her very tragic death at the age of 54.

Long time lurker here. I am really bothered by what seems to me like a giant swerve in the Matt/Karen/Maggie story. Since when is Matt attracted to her? All hot and bothered by her? Her being Karen. This came out of left field in a subplot that has lasted months. Pretty much from the point Retro started airing it.

Could you have accused Matt of having a bit of a soft spot for Karen based on her father? Sure. Or having a blind spot to some of her manipulations? Absolutely. But attracted to her? Where. He wasn't the least bit tempted in the farmhouse. Just a couple weeks back, in her apartment, when Maggie overheard Karen asking him to get her a drink. I saw no romantic tension.

This all started a week or two back. They are in his office, she touches his face with her hand, asks if he does not respond to that, and it's gone on from there. He's snapping everyone's heads off because he feels guilty because he's got something to feel guilty about. He wasn't doing that before. He could talk openly to maggie about it, when she really pressed, because he had nothing to feel guilty about.

I wonder if this has something to do with Edelstein. He just recently started being listed in th credits. Maybe it was Larkin. I just don't see it as consistent with Matt's characterization these last several months. I don't like it. I don't care about Karen. It's the integrity of Matt's character that I care about.

I never saw this story. I started watching in maybe 72 or 73. And I didn't like the writing for Matt in the later years. Or them breaking Matt and Maggie up. "Humanize" Matt aka flaw Matt. Even then, ESPECIALLY now, soaps have a difficult time writing truly morally upright characters. Matt, in the few months leading up to these latest developments, I think certainly qualified. Karen can throw herself at him to heart's content. I don't care not until he starts to respond. Then I have a problem.

Other than that, really enjoying the show. The characters, the main ones, behave the way I remember them. Althea, Nick, Maggie and Matt(for the most part). It is really jarring to see Steve as such a heel. He was reformed by the time I started watching.

Rick, I watched The Doctors from the late 60s through the end, and I agree with many of your comments.

I believe that Carl is right regarding Matt and Maggie. I read an interview with Lydia Bruce years ago. She stated that she received hate mail when she assumed the role of Maggie from Bethel Leslie, who was beloved by the audience. Lydia commented that she was not really accepted until she had to fight for Maggie's marriage to Matt, so it is likely that the current story developments were a deliberate attempt to manipulate audience sympathy toward Lydia.

My justification for Matt's behavior is that he is a typical male who cannot admit he is wrong. Matt brought Karen into the Powers home. Any jeopardy in their marriage has been Matt's responsibility, but he has spent so much time defending Karen, he feels guilty. That guilt has manifested itself in his dreams and thoughts. I do not think Matt is truly attracted to Karen, and he certainly does not love her. He has reiterated this ad naseum to both women. But, now that he has realized Karen's manipulative behavior and unhealthy attraction to him, he has allowed the situation to go too far. Instead of admitting defeat to Maggie, he avoids her and refuses to engage in a dialogue which will ultimately indict him for his behavior. My husband, coincidentally another Matt, is exactly the same way. When I am right and he is wrong, he becomes even more stubborn and will fight to the end before conceding defeat.

Unfortunately, in the 70s, this stubborn side of Matt Powers becomes more of the rule rather than exception. If you find his behavior uncharacteristic now, just wait until he

becomes a raging, violent alcoholic or has sex with Carolee's nubile cousin MJ during a bout with male menopause.

Maggie begins to act uncharacteristically, as well. This was partly to blame for audience defections in the mid to late 70s, as it became more difficult for fans to justify and accept changes in personality for the sake of story.

We should all consider ourselves suprememly blessed for the opportunity to see these episodes again, when scripts weren't written by committee and directors did more than merely block scenes. I am ever thankful to SFM, Retro, and Jeff for bringing The Doctors to me. I hope it lasts a good long while.

I have to say, Bev and Alex look so "classically stylish" here that she doesnt look dated at all like some of the other characters...(Reva.Big Hair, Im looking at you..) They could plop her down today and she would look great. Its too bad they didn't stay with this look for the whole run....(I don't think Alex would change her hair as often as Bev did...)

To me, Bev always looked best with straight, shoulder length hair. Her hair and clothes just before her final departure from the series was my idea of perfection. When she had shorter hair, such as that horrible mid 70s cut on Another World, she looked positively ancient. I also grimace at a hairstyle she wore on GL during the Sheri Anderson regime: permed and dyed dark red. Ugh.

I have to say, Bev and Alex look so "classically stylish" here that she doesnt look dated at all like some of the other characters...(Reva.Big Hair, Im looking at you..) They could plop her down today and she would look great. Its too bad they didn't stay with this look for the whole run....(I don't think Alex would change her hair as often as Bev did...)

To me, Bev always looked best with straight, shoulder length hair. Her hair and clothes just before her final departure from the series was my idea of perfection. When she had shorter hair, such as that horrible mid 70s cut on Another World, she looked positively ancient. I also grimace at a hairstyle she wore on GL during the Sheri Anderson regime: permed and dyed dark red. Ugh.

Yes she was Van and Josh were getting very close cause of how Billy was mistreating her and it fueled Rivas PPD paranioa

Somewhere I have the episode in which Reva went bonkers at Dylan and Samantha's engagement party at the country club. Vanessa innocently attempted to help an unstable Reva, who responded by locking her would-be rival in the toilet. When Vanessa's absence was finally noticed, and someone asked where she was, Reva cooed, "Where else...in the LADIES room!" It was a very humorous episode. The semi-rivalry between Roxie and Mindy was fun, as well.

Didnt he come to AW after many years as Ben on GL? Maybe he was burnt out of soaps

I wonder if it was a conscious decision to cast some younger (Larry Lau) as Jamie in 1986

I always thought Steve Yates was far too old for Jamie. He is only three years younger than Vicky Wyndham. At least Richard Bekins approached being a decade younger, and although Lau looked young, he is the same age as Bekins.

Can u link us

I have never learned how to embed in these threads, but the url appears to be

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4SOc27q_NE

If that does not work, you can just Google "RH 1-9-89". The user is Freeflyur, and he has a significant amount of post 1982 RH videos.

What Lai song did they use? I haven't gotten to that part yet. I'm glad they let us hear the rare music the show played at this time. I remember on Dark Shadows the only song they ever played was the theme to A Man and a Woman

The song was Vivre Pour Vivre from Lelouch's film with Yves Montand, Candice Bergen, and Annie Giradot.

Steve and Karen have a real sadomasochistic relationship- all that's missing is the leather! Kinda like Blanche and Stanley in "A Streetcar Named Desire". How on earth did today's scenes get past the censor?

Indeed.

I say, Karen's solitary drinking and hyper exhiliration at luring Matt into her lair while Francis Lai blared from the radio was somewhat disturbing. Vivre pour vivre, Dr. Verner!

One of my favorite parts of RH are the old afghans in the Ryans' living quarters. Afghans were all the rage then. My folks, who were married just months before RH debuted, received a couple of afghans as wedding gifts and they are still in our living room folded over the couch, thoroughly broken in and worn but loved!!

Knitting was very "in" during that era. I married the same year as your parents, and we received a hand-knitted afghan from a friend. It was tres 70s with orange, yellow, and brown thread. It now resides with my ex-wife and her second husband. My husband and I are delighted to let them have custody of it, but yes, it continues to endure after 40 years!