Everything posted by Capridge
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
But Minx didn't know that Cassie was living in the orphanage. Cassie was adopted after birth, but what Minx didn't know is that Cassie's new family didn't keep her. So she was put in the orphanage again and was raised there until the Capwells adopted her. LOL! She probably should have. Lionel did feel betrayed though. He had a whole confrontation with Minx about it. In fact, when Nicolas Coster briefly left the show in early 1991, Lionel went to Macao to dig up damaging info on Cassie. Cassie did ask Minx who her father was & it was someone Pamela knew according to the dinner party episodes. Minx wouldn't tell Cassie. But I totally agree that Warren not being a Lockridge was a bad move. Agreed! March 1992-January 1993.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
ICAM about Conboy. Mulcahey had an example about Conboy wanting Cruz to play polo, which would have been OOC, but Conboy did respect the show's past. He was the one who brought back the Lockridges and when Kelly was arrested for Quinn's murder, bail was denied because her family had helped her flee the country after Dylan's death. Danny, Ted & Jade were mentioned by Laken. I really liked things like that. So I'd rather have Cruz play polo than have him not recognize the love of his life because she was wearing a bad wig. Another Laura fan right here!! Christopher Norris played her to perfection. She could be a villainess one moment and a grieving mother the next.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Unfortunately I didn't like the Dobsons' return all that much either. I loved the dinner party episodes with Pamela (some of the best scenes on the show EVER), but I didn't like how they had Mason act like a spoiled brat who used video cameras to spy on people. It didn't work, and I'm not sure it would have worked with Lane Davies in the role either. Mason was so vicious and mean and his motives didn't make much sense (Why did he even hate Warren? Why did he want to torture Cassie so much when he didn't even love her?). Flame and Michael were probably his most popular pairing, but they didn't work for me either. Michael had been such a good friend to Cruz/Julia/Eden for years and to turn him into a bitter drunk that looked down on everyone did the character a great disservice. Also, the Cassie storyline had been pretty intriguing & mysterious (she was becoming an Elena-like character that seemed to have it in for the Capwells & the brotherhood), but when the Dobsons took over, she suddenly turned into a tortured heroine. Mason and Julia should have found out about her schemes. Most of the Dobsons' new characters were plain boring (David, Katrina etc.), they got rid of the wrong characters/actors (Laken, Augusta, Craig, Carrington Garland's Kelly) & they focused on the wrong characters (Katrina got more screen time than Craig & Kelly for months). And the storylines they inherited from the previous team they didn't really fix and their stories pretty much ruined relationships (Augusta having fantasies about her sister's rapist, Cruz not recognizing Eden/Suzanne). I get that they wanted to do forbidden love, but Dash/Augusta and Michael/Flame did not work IMO. And they focused way too much on Jack Wagner. And the worst part was that the show became so wordy. There were all these endless scenes at the Oasis and there was little very action. What I did like was Rosa's return, and the dinner party, but Rosa was rarely used and Pamela was gone within a week. Angela was a great new character. I'm glad they tied her to the Capwells in 1992. She really fit in there.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Actually, the French website is right. Eden was the one who went undercover as Adriana's nanny, Kelly went undercover as a maid. Ric never worked for Bunny. Ric's wealth in France came from Hollis and her family made sure he didn't get a cent after she died. I really liked the Paris story though. Elizabeth Storm was great as Hollis and it was a really nice way to introduce Peter Love's Ric. I really liked Kelly and Ric and was so mad when Robert blackmailed Ric into working against the Capwells. So, even though I wound up preferring Robert and Kelly over Ric and Kelly, it's too bad that Kelly never found out why Ric had turned against her family. Danny didn't go to Lyman Prep. He went to a public school like Santana. That's why he's never in the classroom with Jade/Ted/Laken during the school scenes. Yeah, Santana should have been on the show during the show's entire run. One of the rare things I liked about Pam Long's writing is that she gave Santana a good exit. I've been watching episodes from 1992 and pretty every cliffhanger before every commercial break is about B.J. It's really annoying. I really hate the last year.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Probably, but she introduced way too many new characters IMO and didn't get the characters that were already on the show. Cruz's exit was totally out of character, Lily's backstory was rewritten (she slept with Mason in 1986 but was now somehow a virgin again), Brandon was totally forgotten once baby Channing arrived, Gina was dumbed down considerably and Julia became totally obsessed with the haunted mansion and wanted to stay there even though both her husband and daughter were getting hurt. And then Mason, who loved Julia and became self-destructive whenever he lost her, suddenly implied that their marriage could not work out because Julia had won the judgeship and not him? That was totally out of character, too. ICA! Although Eden was probably the heart of the show, the death knell wasn't just Marcy leaving, it was all of those factors, many of which could have been prevented because a lot of these actors were fired. John Conboy is underrated IMO. He respected the show's history enough to bring back characters like the Lockridges, Robert Barr and Keith (unfortunately Justin Deas didn't want to come back but Conboy did try).
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Interesting theory but I really doubt that That's true. It was lovely to see Minx a bit more involved in the storylines and Janis Paige player her well (even though she was far too young to be playing Nicolas Coster's son, but I didn't mind that).
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
Since the Loving murders have appeared online, a storyline that I'd always been curious about, I'm surprised at how good the show was. And I find the storyline fascinating but wow, if I had watched for twelve years, I probably would not have been happy with the storyline at all. The first, fourth and fifth murders were especially hard to watch because those characters & performers were extremely likable. Ironically, I think the characters that survived are pretty much all uninteresting and their individual stories don't draw me in at all, not even Angie (who I expected to love). And I'm amazed at the choice of the first murder victim, she was easily one of the most recognizable faces of the show and IMO one of the stronger performers. Why she had to go and some so-so characters made the transfer to the city, is really weird. Trisha's fate is pretty sad too, if you think about it. She didn't even get the chance of mourning the people she once loved because she simply did not remember them. But all in all, I'm more interested in the earlier years of the show than ever. The performance of the killer, wow. Thumbs up!
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
You know, you may be right about that. I did not enjoy Pam Long's writing at all but I think she might have done well with Augusta & Lionel. Though she might have only used them for silly mini-stories like she did with Lionel & Gina.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
ICAM! Carrington Garland was extremely fun to watch and she had chemistry with just about everyone. Losing Marcy Walker, Louise Sorel, Carrington Garland, Roscoe Born and even Frank Runyeon (who had been there for four years) really hurt the show. Marcy and Roscoe wanted to leave the show and Frank was also ready to get out of there, but Carrington seemed happy to be there & Louise Sorel, well, her firing should never have happened either. It was so unnecessary. I guess they counted on Jack Wagner to save the show, but the stability of having Carrington Garland & Louise Sorel there would have really helped.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
I'm watching this period on YouTube, but it kinda makes sense. -Sophia "died" in May 1969 because she fell overboard. She didn't remember who she was for many years and was in a mental hospital. She eventually got out, remarried & thus Marcello became her stepson. -In 1979, Sophia saw a photo of CC in the newspaper, which caused her to remember everything. She believed that Lionel had pushed her overboard all those years ago & was still afraid of him. So she set out to confront him at Channing's party before exposing herself to the family. -Sophia disguised herself as Dominic, planned to threaten Lionel with an unloaded gun and accidentally shot and killed Channing instead. The horror of what she had done was too much for Sophia so Marcello hypnotized her into forgetting the trauma and made her think that Lionel was the killer. This made sense to Sophia since she already believed that Lionel had tried to kill her that day on the boat. -Marcello took Sophia away from the scene of the crime, but the horror of her beloved son's death caused her to have mental problems again. She was committed to a mental hospital in Alaska this time, and she stayed there until about 1984. This is why she didn't try to exonerate Joe before. -I guess she disguised herself because a) she was an actress and kinda enjoyed that sort of thing and b) it's not impossible that Joe would recognize her since he had been involved with Kelly and might have seen a photo of her "dead" mother at one point. (Cruz and Dominic never had scenes together, except for one where Cruz interrupted a meeting between Joe/Dominic on Cruz's houseboat and Dominic fled the scene immediately). This is only partly correct but those episodes aired so long ago I can't say I blame you Channing knew that Warren had stolen the coins, but was going to expose him no matter what he did with the coins. So returning the coins was never a plot point. He didn't go back to return the coins, but to kill Channing (flashbacks of this were shown in episode 110 & 217). The door wasn't locked; he went in and saw that Channing had been shot. Before Channing died, Warren heard him whisper a word (which was connected to Lionel/Sophia but unknown to Warren). Dominic retrieved the coins from the cemetery (where Lionel had hidden them), not the fireplace. But the Lockridges did burn the tux in the fireplace (episode 110) so maybe you got that mixed up.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Yeah, the Lockridges were very fascinating. Laken might have been the least interesting of that all, but I liked her a lot. The actresses were good too, but were never given a real chance to shine. But actually, there were many, many scenes between Lionel and Laken over the years. There were scenes after the pigeon incident where Lionel is trying to keep Laken from running away from home and the subject of his many travels comes up & she made it clear that she didn't understand why he had to go away so much & she didn't like it. There just wasn't much tension between them, because Laken always had a good relationship with him whereas her relationship with Augusta was a lot more complicated. Which is probably why Laken/Lionel scenes were less memorable. But it was always made clear that they were close. When Lionel was suspected of killing Channing, Laken always believed he was innocent. Their relationship briefly changed when Laken returned in 1987 and started disapproving of Lionel's new relationship with Caroline Wilson. Also, Lionel didn't approve of Laken meddling in Ted and Hayley's marriage. But even then, they remained close. And in 1990, Lionel was pretty much the peacemaker when Laken & Augusta would get into fights. I'm not sure if Warren borrowed Lionel's tux though. I'm pretty sure that Sophia/Dominic tried to frame Lionel by planting evidence in his tux not knowing that it was Warren's tux.
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Yes it's really terrible. The Craig/Kelly/Robert triangle was really fun and it's sad to think that both men have died so young. And so soon after each other, too.