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Cosmetic Changes / The Future

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@Errol Past couple of days, posts are continuing to double-post when "Submit Reply" is only pressed once. It stopped being an issue for a bit, but the past few days, it has returned. Don't know if it's in connection to the recent changes and updates, but wanted to keep you apprised of the issue.

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    I'm not leaving because of all the changes, because I really enjoy this board. However, I have to add that I'm concerned about the number of changes. Whether it's true or not, everything looks like it

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    i feel the same way. to say ‘i agree with you,’ now involves quoting, then writing something and submitting. hitting a like button would both engage the responder and provide feedback for the poster —

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14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Sometimes I just want to say "I agree with you" when I see a post I agree with. You might remember that I asked long ago if we could have a LIKE button; you said you'd look into it. I think that engages people and might increase participation.

i feel the same way. to say ‘i agree with you,’ now involves quoting, then writing something and submitting. hitting a like button would both engage the responder and provide feedback for the poster — a win, win!.

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14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I'm not leaving because of all the changes, because I really enjoy this board. However, I have to add that I'm concerned about the number of changes.

Not sure why anyone would feel the need to leave the SON Community, but if they choose to, that's their choice.

Overall, as of this writing, nothing has really changed except that I created individual show forums for the current soaps and moved their show-specific threads into their designated forums. Anything proposed for the future can and will change, depending on feedback. I'm not opposed to other thoughts and ideas.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Whether it's true or not, everything looks like it'll be more complicated than before. I realize that's probably because new and different can be challenging, but posting has been easy, and I'm not sure making it more complicated brings new posters or members who post more often.

Everything new or different is complicated. You move into a new apartment complex, it's a complicated process because you have to adjust not just to a new apartment, but the overall setup of the community, between neighbors, amenities, parking space (if available), etc. It takes time to adjust to any change.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I'll be honest. I stopped reading through the changes/examples because it felt like overload. It felt like TL/DR. Soooooo much time and effort was put into all of it, and I appreciate and respect that so much, but I worry about the impact. Hopefully, I'm just making too much of all this and making a mountain out of that molehill.

The original post took a while to write, and while all the explaining might seem complicated, it's actually very easy once you start adapting to it. The capabilities of this forum weren't available 25 years ago, or even a year ago. The updated software introduced these features, and it would be ridiculous not to use all the available tools to make this place better than it ever was. When the day we honor our 25th anniversary comes, and the site still looks and feels like it's from 2001, I'd consider myself a failure.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

The login/sign in problem on Chrome is huge. I don't doubt that's hurt the board. To this day, I CANNOT sign in on Chrome -- and I've tried everything. I had to download Firefox on my phone to use the board. Did some people just give up instead of going to another browser?

After dealing with all the issues people brought to my attention over the last couple of weeks, they have now been fixed. Any lingering issues are browser-based from the client side, particularly since the problem did not occur in other browsers, with a few exceptions, and does not affect all users of the referenced browser(s). I did see people talking about Microsoft Edge being affected, but they didn't seem to have the issue with Chrome. Either way, unless I'm told of a current issue with login/logout or max_connections (error 500), and the poster has done the advised clearing of their cache/cookies (and I do mean clearing entirely), only then will I consider looking into the issue again.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

If posting is dramatically down, I personally think that's on the soaps more than on the setup of this board. BTG was gangbusters here in its first year. That has dropped off in huge numbers -- because that's what happens when something isn't new and fresh any longer. Isn't a huge percentage of the drop in posting because of BTG?

As I said in my original post, I have to look at things holistically. Sure, the soaps can suck, and fans don't want to watch, but I'm not going to allow the SON Community to go the way of the Soap Opera Digest print magazine. Complacency is just one of the reasons it went away. It wasn't just that print was dying. Similarly, over the 25 years since the SON Community started, we now also compete for attention with posters on other platforms discussing their favorite shows, including X (formerly Twitter), Facebook, Instagram, Threads, TikTok and YouTube, etc. We need to adjust to compete just like any other platform or service.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Sometimes I just want to say "I agree with you" when I see a post I agree with. You might remember that I asked long ago if we could have a LIKE button; you said you'd look into it. I think that engages people and might increase participation.

As it is now, if I post something about Y&R and there's no response for days, I have no idea if people agree or care. If I had a dozen likes, it might encourage me to post more often and not worry that my voice was in the wind. Why should I return to the Y&R board every day if no one engages?

I honestly did not remember this. But I had been looking into it, and since you brought it up, I was able to finally find the solution. I do recall we had the feature in place at one point in an older version of the software, but it was panned by users for misuse. In bringing it back, I removed all the negative options and have been manually adjusting poster accounts that had/have negative "reputation" points.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

There's a core of us who post often on one or more soaps. Maybe I'm wrong, but that core number seems to be dropping. I'm sad about that, but don't have any answers. I know I won't be going to Facebook groups, where too many people can't spell and say the dumbest things imaginable. This group has always had literate people around LOL

That happens sometimes. While cleaning up the Discuss The Soaps forum by moving topics into their respective show forums, I found a few topics that received little to no response, and some posts from posters I never knew we even had.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

There's a core of us who post often on one or more soaps. Maybe I'm wrong, but that core number seems to be dropping. I'm sad about that, but don't have any answers. I know I won't be going to Facebook groups, where too many people can't spell and say the dumbest things imaginable. This group has always had literate people around LOL

I've actually seen a lot of veterans returning to the SON Community over the last couple of days, and I feel it's been the most functional during that time. This is likely due to the login/logout issue and the max_connections (error 500) being resolved. We'll see.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

The new WELCOME threads to each soap are not being used at all to this point. I realize that's probably because the monthly discussions still exist, but it also might point to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I hate to lose the monthly threads, but I will soldier on if that happens.

The welcome threads were not created for active discussions or as a catch-all. They were created for the simple purpose of introducing the individual show forum for each respective show. As for the monthly discussion threads, particularly the BTG and GH discussions, I've found that many people don't post in them because they get lost and can't keep up with what's being discussed, including which episodes. If there are roughly 20 episodes per month for each soap, and you are just watching the first or fifth episode, and the monthly discussion is at episode 18, you are left with little to discuss because most of it has already been touched upon. I've seen people get annoyed with others who are discussing matters that happened days ago in an earlier episode, immediately discouraging that person from commenting.

While not necessarily in response to you directly, I know that a daily (or weekly) thread could see five or fewer comments per post, but by not attempting to grow the place, I'd, again, consider that a failure. I want to see that when this place turns 25 in a few months, it is a thriving community, not one that should have been put out of its pasture years ago. To my point, there's a forum that was unofficially spun off from SON over a decade ago, and I was shocked to see how much the posting activity had dropped. To your earlier point, in their case, I presume it's probably more closely tied to the lack of interest in the primary show that posters would most often talk about.

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Thanks for caring about this place. I hope it comes across that I care about the board, too.

Thank you. I definitely see how much you and others care about this place, and that is why I keep it as up to date as possible. Using my analogies again, if I left this place as is, it would wither and die with a dead engine and dust/dirt/grime all over the place.

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29 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

@Errol Past couple of days, posts are continuing to double-post when "Submit Reply" is only pressed once. It stopped being an issue for a bit, but the past few days, it has returned. Don't know if it's in connection to the recent changes and updates, but wanted to keep you apprised of the issue.

Late Sunday/early Monday, the Redis system failed, and I had to revert to the standard MySQL method for handling post-injections. This method has always been used in the SON Community until I started looking into ways to fix the login/logout and max_connections (error 500) problems. The Redis failure is likely what caused the double posts during the aforementioned time. Otherwise, like with my post above, you just have to wait a few more seconds for it to publish. So far, no glitches or errors. Just need to allow the database to process posts.

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Just now, Errol said:

Late Sunday/early Monday, the Redis system failed, and I had to revert to the standard MySQL method for handling post-injections. This method has always been used in the SON Community until I started looking into ways to fix the login/logout and max_connections (error 500) problems. The Redis failure is likely what caused the double posts during the aforementioned time. Otherwise, like with my post above, you just have to wait a few more seconds for it to publish. So far, no glitches or errors. Just need to allow the database to process posts.

Will take note. I usually only press "Submit Reply" once and it sends a double post anyway. I'll keep an eye on it. And thank you for not installing negative reactions. I find on other forums that just causes too many issues.

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24 minutes ago, Errol said:

since you brought it up, I was able to finally find the solution. I do recall we had the feature in place at one point in an older version of the software, but it was panned by users for misuse. In bringing it back, I removed all the negative options.

oooh these are great - holding my cursor over the heart icon, I find these options to click:

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10 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Thank you @Errol !!!

Glad I was able to find a solution for you.

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36 minutes ago, Errol said:

I was hesitant about keeping the confused icon, but I'll leave it for now since it's a neutral one, and there are cases where it might be necessary. Otherwise, happy people are responding well to these new features.

And it comes with a new badge! Yay! 😁

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