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5 hours ago, WebberFan said:

How incredibly stupid to allow RoHo to do that SOD blurb. Kills any momentum for this story. 

Eh. The majority of Friz fans are RoHo fans. Most Liz fans aren't too fond of the pairing or him because she's gotten nothing out of it since day one. Their entire relationship has been about using her and her children to humanize him. They've made her wallpaper even giving the Tom Baker story to him, using each of her children as props to take him from serial killer to Mr. Mom... all she's done for the past few years is talk about how great he is and tell everyone that he's changed. It's exhausting.

She truly has gotten nothing out of the pairing.  I don't know why the show can't find any way to use Liz other than giving her horrible love interests.  There are definitely Friz/RoHo stans, I just think a lot of Liz fans hopped on the Friz train because it gave Liz airtime and kept her semi-relevant not because it was a good storyline arc for Liz.

8 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:


Well you know what they say about when folks have chemistry on-screen or don't (see infamous Friends episodes).

Maybe he is using all the, hum, chemistry on real-life activity and there is none left for filming.

Perhaps.  There is clearly nothing left for filming lol.  Chad Duell seems so boring and almost asexual to me.  Maybe it's his sad, doe eyed expressions.  He always looks like he needs a hug.  I mean, good for him for getting it off screen.  But some days I think the show should cut their losses with Duell and hire someone better suited for the part of AJ/Carly/Sonny's kid.  Although, obviously, there are many people I would cut before him.

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I think I'm the only person in the universe who wants Michael & Willow together.  I think I'm actually rooting for Wiley though.

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I used to think his personality being more on the passive side was a good reaction to his family.  It gave him a level to play against Carly, Sonny, and the Q’s.  But he has zero romantic chemistry with nearly every woman he has been paired with.  Chase sure brings it out in him though.

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4 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

There was an article about Zander’s return, either on TVLine or EW, and the comments were filled with people talking about Franco.  It’s like a bizzaro world.  Like post after post, some even calling him a beloved character.  Who are these people?

 

And I like Roger Howarth!  I have no issue with him, loved him as Todd for the most part.  But I don’t want Todd back either, because this show needs any new characters to be played by actors not known for GH.  I can’t take Easton and Howarth just being killed off and brought back.

 

The thing is I thought Todd was by far the best OLTL fit from all the cast offs that appeared.  I liked Todd with Carly, but the YEARS and YEARS of trying to make ME and RH a thing and then letting MB and SBu also be a thing.  It's just mind boggling and I have no problem with any of the actors.  I like Sonny and Jason.  It's just none of them are likable leads and I can see that.  A crazy faction of fans isn't going to convince me otherwise.  

Just now, titan1978 said:

I used to think his personality being more on the passive side was a good reaction to his family.  It gave him a level to play against Carly, Sonny, and the Q’s.  But he has zero romantic chemistry with nearly every woman he has been paired with.  Chase sure brings it out in him though.

I think passive worked when he was first cast.  His exasperation with Carly would crack me up.  And I think he did fine with the rape stuff.  But I think DG was probably the better of the two adult Michaels.  I always felt Michael would be somewhat of a rage monkey due to his childhood.

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1 minute ago, carolineg said:

 

The thing is I thought Todd was by far the best OLTL fit from all the cast offs that appeared.  I liked Todd with Carly, but the YEARS and YEARS of trying to make ME and RH a thing and then letting MB and SBu also be a thing.  It's just mind boggling and I have no problem with any of the actors.  I like Sonny and Jason.  It's just none of them are likable leads and I can see that.  A crazy faction of fans isn't going to convince me otherwise.  

I thought Todd fit quite well too.  I just think the time has past to just switch him back to Todd.  And whatever charms any of these people had as leads is long since passed.

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2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I thought Todd fit quite well too.  I just think the time has past to just switch him back to Todd.  And whatever charms any of these people had as leads is long since passed.

 

You can't build a show with male leads that are all problematic.  Mobsters, rapists, or just insanely boring (Finn, Michael).  Ingo/Jax should have always been the second male lead, but his charm has definitely worn off as well.  But if you are going to focus a show on Sonny, Jax vs. Sonny was the way to go.  At least Jax was heroic and rootable back in the day.  There has to be a good guy to balance Sonny out and it's not his saintly hitman lol.  But this is probably a highly unpopular opinion.  I think SK/AJ could have been a strong male lead as well.  Very flawed, but a likeable guy in the end that could never get it right.  

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13 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

 

For real... nobody wants to see Todd on GH in 2021. I say this as someone who was a big RH/Todd fan on OLTL. It's way past time to move on from the Todd character. RH is lame now, I wish the show would just dump him.

Same here. I want him completely gone. Killing off Franco was the right decision, but bringing him back as Todd or somebody else is a big mistake

5 hours ago, WebberFan said:

How incredibly stupid to allow RoHo to do that SOD blurb. Kills any momentum for this story. 

The more I think about it, the more I think that this was just a big F you to fans who wanted RH gone

27 minutes ago, carolineg said:

She truly has gotten nothing out of the pairing.  I don't know why the show can't find any way to use Liz other than giving her horrible love interests.  There are definitely Friz/RoHo stans, I just think a lot of Liz fans hopped on the Friz train because it gave Liz airtime and kept her semi-relevant not because it was a good storyline arc for Liz.

This pairing ruined Liz, and it ruined Cameron too. It made her so dumb and so insufferable that I practically don't even care about the character anymore.

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Just wait, they'll probably create a new character for Roger Howarth to play. Like Franco's twin Branco, an annoying soap opera journalist. 

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1 hour ago, prefab1 said:

Just wait, they'll probably create a new character for Roger Howarth to play. Like Franco's twin Branco, an annoying soap opera journalist. 

And he’ll feel exactly like Todd, if only through emphasizing a certain aspect of Todd’s personality.


God, Cameron’s reaction is breaking my heart and I didn’t give a sh!t about Franco. William Lipton is just amazing.

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4 hours ago, Ponds said:

I think I'm the only person in the universe who wants Michael & Willow together.  I think I'm actually rooting for Wiley though.

I like them together, that's a nice paring. In terms of how much drama can be squeezed from that , IDK.

 

Someone said Michael Easton is in the wrong role, I agree. It's hard to think this guy used to be cool and tough Mc Bain on OLTL. As for Elizabeth, they need something else for the character to do other than chase men. Perhaps if they trimmed the bloated cast they could figure out what that something is. 

 

Overall, Frank needs to go. Maybe he and Ron C can make Y&R interesting but, Frank has overstayed his effectiveness on this show. This OLTL lite version of GH isn't working anymore. 

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8 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

God, Cameron’s reaction is breaking my heart and I didn’t give a sh!t about Franco. William Lipton is just amazing.

Lol same here.

 

That kid is breaking my heart. Hopefully, the show will realize how talented he is and give him his own storyline as opposed to just being Franco's boy.

 

I feel bad for Scott too. 

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31 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Lol same here.

 

That kid is breaking my heart. Hopefully, the show will realize how talented he is and give him his own storyline as opposed to just being Franco's boy.

 

I feel bad for Scott too. 

Didn't they just cut Lipton to recurring?  He's literally the best teen on the current canvas.

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Rebecca Herbst has been excellent too. I just rewatched that scene, and I liked how how she tried to be strong for Cameron.

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40 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Didn't they just cut Lipton to recurring?  He's literally the best teen on the current canvas.

Did they?  That is so dumb.  I just do not get Frank.  OLTL had a teen set that actually drove story and was certainly more interesting than what he has at GH- even Cole and Starr at least had a storyline.

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54 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Didn't they just cut Lipton to recurring?  He's literally the best teen on the current canvas.

 

12 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Did they?  That is so dumb.  I just do not get Frank.  OLTL had a teen set that actually drove story and was certainly more interesting than what he has at GH- even Cole and Starr at least had a storyline.

I hadnt heard but Is the actor college bound? Maybe he requested recurring. Dunno havent read this anywhere

 

As for teens and teen stories like dating/sex: Could their real life folks be vetoing that. I mean they are all 18. This is when Frank would usually have the teens go shirtless but so far nada for Cam

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