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18 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

And face it, just about EVERY story on the show turns into a blah.

 

The Faith bullying story. Where are the bullies? We see no one. We hear no one. Texts? BLOCK THEM, DUMB FAITH. Make it make sense. And no, COVID-19 is no excuse for every effing story having no bodies to carry it off. If that’s the case, don’t do the story.

 

The Chelsea revenge story. In 2 days she went from immobile to standing and now speaking as fast as she ever did. Of course, she also has a phone. Where are the beats? Why can’t Adam PRETEND to care about her when he leaves? Even damn roommates are warmer to each other.

 

The Ashland L business sale. What’s with the name that seems impossible to pronounce and spell? Griffith can’t even get THAT right. And why are these major biz meetings held in HOTEL ROOMS? AT Crimson Lights? Just pathetic, and takes me out of every scene.

 

Amanda. Great scenes with her mother and half-sister, then NOTHING for weeks. And is the sister gone already? JFC.

 

The Devon Elena Nate Amanda story. I have no Faith this will go anywhere.

 

The Abby surrogacy story. An ABOMINATION. Just pure TRASH while Nina and Ashley and Jill are WASTED. And please spare me another FaceTime with Jill. That stuff is sh*t.

 

I have more, but I’m tired of typing. This show is infuriating.

Let's not forget Sharon the cancer survivor whose marriage is in trouble weeks after it happened.

 

Jack with a woman who could be his grand daughter.

 

Any promising stories are trashed due to poor pacing, ridiculous plot turns etc

 

 

 

 

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I, too, thought that giving Amanda a mother and sister was a smart move made brilliant by the casting and characterization. I'm still hoping that plans are to bring the sister on full time as a foil for Amanda. But yet, we seem to be stuck in the drama less qaud. Mind you, Amanda/Devon/Elena/Nate could have been an entertaining smutty story. But everyone is so nice and understanding. Meh. I wanted this bad but it just hasn't been fun nor  soapy. I'm ready for it to end and move on to something new. 

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1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

Let's not forget Sharon the cancer survivor whose marriage is in trouble weeks after it happened.

 

Jack with a woman who could be his grand daughter.

 

Any promising stories are trashed due to poor pacing, ridiculous plot turns etc

 

 

 

 


Terrible pacing. We saw no Sharon and Rey honeymoon, and as you said, that was followed by marital troubles just weeks later.

 

I have no problem with a Jack and Sally story as long as Sally is a gold digger from hell, a throwback to the old Jill. Make it nasty and juicy, even if you repeat the same effing scripts from decades ago. I do not want to see marital bliss with Jack and Sally. How boring would that be?

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45 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Mind you, Amanda/Devon/Elena/Nate could have been an entertaining smutty story. But everyone is so nice and understanding.

Think back to Lorie/Lance/Leslie/Lucas and the years they got out of that.

If say, Nate and Amanda had been a little less 'nice and understanding' without becoming psycho villians, the twists and turns of this foursome would be way more interesting.

A few little lies and self serving actions wouldn't go astray...and an interfering parent for Elena or Amanda couldn't hurt- but there is no budget or interest in older characters.

 

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Missed the beginning, but has Tara (Ashland’s wife/Kyle’s babymama) been crying, or does she have an eyeshadow problem?


Characters (whose performers aren’t involved IRL) not being able to kiss is a REAL problem for this show. 

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14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Nailed it. That is exactly what happened. It’s ridiculous to pretend “we can’t really be sure.” We ARE sure. MIshael was horribly treated when her contract was up for renewal.

Amanda the character not working? That’s on the damn writers, not on MM. If Josh Griffith were writing for Hilary today, he’d have her as a stay-at-home mommy blogger.

And face it, just about EVERY story on the show turns into a blah.


Not going to belabor the former point because, well, if you are sure you can be sure, you will never be convinced that you can't be sure of anything you didn't personally witnessed.

But it is worth repeating that MM is an excellent actress and very charismatic and her talents are not at all in question. I'd reckon some of her scenes around her mother will land her Emmy nom for sure.
But I stand by my take that Amanda is not working - and more than happy to blame the writing.

 

13 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I have no problem with a Jack and Sally story as long as Sally is a gold digger from hell, a throwback to the old Jill. Make it nasty and juicy, even if you repeat the same effing scripts from decades ago. I do not want to see marital bliss with Jack and Sally. How boring would that be?


I mean the show has been bad about those kinds of romances before (Sharon/Victor is still one of the vilest moments in the history of the show for me) but I think it is highly doubtful they are going to try to sell us the story as a proper romance. Of course Sally has an angle.
For me to accept it, and I really want to, they need to have the character and acknowledge the obvious, and I hope PB's ego can take it. I need to have people comment on how weird it is and Jack express self-confidence issues regarding being so much older etc. If they make the age difference an explicit point, then I can follow the story where it takes us.
Hopefully not a triangle with Kyle but the new story seems to be taking him away from that direction which is a relief.

 

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Characters (whose performers aren’t involved IRL) not being able to kiss is a REAL problem for this show. 


And on that note, I think this actually helps the Sally/Jack story and make it easier for me to accept. I am not sure I'd feel the same way about seeing where it goes if we were ever to be treated to physical affection between them, if you know what I am saying.

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13 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Think back to Lorie/Lance/Leslie/Lucas and the years they got out of that.

If say, Nate and Amanda had been a little less 'nice and understanding' without becoming psycho villians, the twists and turns of this foursome would be way more interesting.

A few little lies and self serving actions wouldn't go astray...and an interfering parent for Elena or Amanda couldn't hurt- but there is no budget or interest in older characters.

 

 

I just remarked to someone rye other day that Y&R had turned the page. Younger characters are leads. Older characters serve the story of the younger generation. I think Billy/JT is probably the oldest actor getting story. Even Victoria and Nick struggle. 

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1 minute ago, Vizion said:

This show continues to be disappointing and look poor. 

 

Why the hell are all of these business meetings happening in a hotel room beside a bed? 

Precisely.

They need to pull back on the business side of things if they don't intend to present anything near to realism.

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Nothing in the recaps and summaries or spoilers makes me want to watch.  It all sounds terrible.  And Jack and Sally?  God.  There's no reasoning that for me so I'll stay tuned out.  

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2 hours ago, Fevuh said:

Nothing in the recaps and summaries or spoilers makes me want to watch.  It all sounds terrible.  And Jack and Sally?  God.  There's no reasoning that for me so I'll stay tuned out.  

I think it's ridiculous to pair the two of them.  Can't they find an attractive woman for Jack that is more age appropriate?

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One thing that sucks: characters don’t have individual voices, with very few exceptions. Ashland’s dialogue could have easily come from Jack. Very formal, generic businessman. Don’t love the styling for Richard Burgi either. 

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10 hours ago, Faulkner said:

One thing that sucks: characters don’t have individual voices, with very few exceptions. Ashland’s dialogue could have easily come from Jack. Very formal, generic businessman. Don’t love the styling for Richard Burgi either. 


Burgi’s styling is fine, but I agree with you about the generic dialogue. No sense of personality at all. 
 

What is the name of this company anyway. Who the frick calls their company Siaxories or whatever the eff it is? I honestly can’t make out what they’re saying or what it’s supposed to stand for.

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Whatever the name of the company, it should be the new "HI Bob" drinking game...
 

"Siaxories"... drink

 

It would be great if Chelsea made it all the way to Sharon's house and have Nikki "accidentally"  shoot the intruder on the property...  After all, it's been a few years since Nikki almost iced J.T.   Is Rey next in line for an aneurysm?

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37 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:


Burgi’s styling is fine, but I agree with you about the generic dialogue. No sense of personality at all. 
 

What is the name of this company anyway. Who the frick calls their company Siaxories or whatever the eff it is? I honestly can’t make out what they’re saying or what it’s supposed to stand for.

Cyaxares. King of media is what the name is based on. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyaxares

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