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I agree that you can’t blame Marlena for what happened to the Hortons.

 

If you watched the show in like 1987-1990, she wasn’t even there.  Jennifer Horton was the lead for her age range, and Mike Horton was given a b story or two, same with Melissa.  We saw plenty of Alice and Tom, not as much of Mickey and Maggie.

 

The Brady takeover is what did it.  Everything was tied to them.  Bo, Roman, Kim, Kayla, and you a lesser degree Caroline and Shawn.  I enjoyed all those characters.  But in hindsight they did disrupt the balance of the show.

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17 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I agree that you can’t blame Marlena for what happened to the Hortons.

 

If you watched the show in like 1987-1990, she wasn’t even there.  Jennifer Horton was the lead for her age range, and Mike Horton was given a b story or two, same with Melissa.  We saw plenty of Alice and Tom, not as much of Mickey and Maggie.

 

The Brady takeover is what did it.  Everything was tied to them.  Bo, Roman, Kim, Kayla, and you a lesser degree Caroline and Shawn.  I enjoyed all those characters.  But in hindsight they did disrupt the balance of the show.

I would hardly call Mike's romances with Robin and April ''b stories''. Later on the quad of Mike, April, Eve and Nick was also a front burning story.

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27 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

I would hardly call Mike's romances with Robin and April ''b stories''. Later on the quad of Mike, April, Eve and Nick was also a front burning story.

I never considered them the three days a week crowd though.  When you watched back then people like Kim, Shane, Bo, Roman, Steve and Kayla were on 3 to 4 times a week.  Every week.

 

I’m not saying the characters you pointed out were not popular and driving story.  I just never thought of them as the “A” story group of characters.  Eve and Nick certainly got there though, there was a period of time I though Nick was also always on screen.  I loved Mike Horton back then but he never got the play of Bo Brady.

 

That was also part of the balance problem back then.  I can remember thinking Steve and Kayla in particular were always on screen.

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Under Lloyd Gold, Guiding Light was supposed to hold a Lighthouse Gala, which Meta was helping to plan but Mary Stuart passed away. I can't help but to think we got the time travel storyline in place of the Lighthouse Gala. 

 

Millie Taggart also had a scene where Phillip and Ross discussed possible insider trading charges against Phillip. I assume this somehow would have played into the Phillip/Olivia/Alan triangle.

 

The Ex wives Club had plenty of story threads; Alex blackmialing Mindy with a secret she wanted to keep hidden. Mentioning Alan-Michael (possible return under Taggart?) I vaguely remember Blake expressing interest in working at Spaulding again. 

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Both Bill Bell and the Dobsons had plans for other characters to be introduced when Y&R and SB debuted.

 

On Y&R there were Bruce Henderson's sons, Liz Foster's nephews Russell and Mark.

 

On SB the Andrade family had 2 offscreen sisters I recall.

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

Under Lloyd Gold, Guiding Light was supposed to hold a Lighthouse Gala, which Meta was helping to plan but Mary Stuart passed away. I can't help but to think we got the time travel storyline in place of the Lighthouse Gala. 

 

Millie Taggart also had a scene where Phillip and Ross discussed possible insider trading charges against Phillip. I assume this somehow would have played into the Phillip/Olivia/Alan triangle.

 

The Ex wives Club had plenty of story threads; Alex blackmialing Mindy with a secret she wanted to keep hidden. Mentioning Alan-Michael (possible return under Taggart?) I vaguely remember Blake expressing interest in working at Spaulding again. 

I thought it was Labine who utilized Meta more and started that whole Lighthouse thing.

 

The Taggart time, so much lost potential and the last time GL had a chance to save itself.  I remember Phillip was involved in something that Alan found out about at the start of the Phillip/Liv/Alan triangle and Olivia tellling Alan to "Call of your dogs!"  Would love to have Mindy brought back..it should have been Rick and Mindy instead of boring Mel...(she really only married him as she thought he was going to die, they should have held off and had her see Rick and Mindy's feelings for one another and backed off.)  I know that AM was supposed to come back and join Alex in fighting Phillip and Alan.

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4 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

If Tom Langan had stayed at DAYS, John or Stefano would have been Zack's father, not Bo.

 

I still remember when TPTB asked viewers to vote.  People were SO. NOT. HAPPY. to have to choose between John and Stefano.  John won, I think, but only because he was the more appealing choice.  That's why Peter Brash and Paula Cwikly ended up retconning the whole thing, saying Bo, whom Stefano had brainwashed into becoming a mime or some noise, had had sex with Hope while she was still under the influence of Princess Gina.

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On 3/30/2020 at 4:09 AM, Riverdalefan1 said:

 

Does anyone know if @Toups ever had the opportunity to interview Jim? I know how much he loved him.

 

No, I didn't. :(  I probably would've asked about every storyline he did on DAYS and Passions. It would've been the longest interview in history though.  :)

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On 3/29/2020 at 12:47 AM, Paul Raven said:

Back to Pat Falken Smith and Days.

In addition to Stefano's obsession with Julie, Roman's younger brother Marcus was going to be involved with Melissa Anderson and there was a Di Mera sister Vanessa who would be involved with Mike Hortin I believe,

Edward Mallory said he was approached to return as Bill.


Roman's younger brother Marcus? so Bo was supposed to be Marcus?

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On 3/29/2020 at 8:04 PM, Titus Andronicus said:

I theorize that the 1985-86 Days Pawn storyline was changed when Drake Hogestyn was cast or soon after.

 

Was Robert Poynton always intended to be a transitional actor in the role? Hogestyn wasn't cast until, I think, November 1985, just as the story was starting to air. I think when they cast Hogestyn, they knew they had their Roman, though he didn't film until January.

 

If I remember correct, Steve saw the bandaged Pawn in Miami before surgery, but he sure didn't know who he was when he picked him up off the side of the road when he escaped from Victor a month or two later.


From what i understand from back then, SA asked Wayne N. to come back. the producers wanted him to come back, but each time he said no. so after the last overture, she started looking for the new RB. when she casted DH, she felt she found him...but if he didn;t have chemistry with Dee, he would have turned out to be one of Stefano's sons (which they were going to do when they were trapped on the island after Lawrence A. caused and earthquake.)

Dallas:

If Phil Capice had not been forced out as EP (and had Patrick Duffy not have returned) Steve Forrest's character Ben Stivers would have turned out to be Jock Ewing.

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On 3/30/2020 at 2:59 PM, carolineg said:

Cin stans definitely hate Marlena and John for some reason.  I think Ron wants to feature John/Marlena and it has to be a Marlena in peril thing because, at this point, Jarlena have certainly outgrown any third party interferences that aren't wacky or villainous and it's all Ron knows how to do. Can you imagine him writing a serious cancer story or something?  On Days now?

 

I think it's weird to think Days became "The Marlena Show" after she joined because I only really think she was super heavily featured was in the mid 1990's.  She was always a lead but never overtook the show like Reva or Sonny did on GL or GH.

 

I know SJB has/had issues with GH, but I don't really think Vanessa does.   I just don't think there is much interest on either side.  FV doesn't seem to want her and she doesn't seem to care. When is the last time the show even mentioned her?   She seems perfectly content to just do a Lifetime Movie a year and raise her kid.  I am sure she will come back one day if only for the end.

 

Laura Wright fills that void fine and I guess it's sorta a merger of the two parts, but not the good parts of Carly and Brenda lol. Not anything that made them unique.  LW plays Carly like a soccer mom and that's fine, but it's not Carly.  And her and MB just really have no romantic chemistry.

 

Yeah that seems to be the case with Frank/Vanessa. Shame. But we get Nina's legacy and Kim Nero. Anywho ...

 

And agreed on LW's Carly. Definitely the worst traits of both. I can't even imagine SJB playing this version. And it wouldn't be written like that with her in the role. Also think they do a disservice by not using Bobbie more. Like Heather Tom, I dream of SJB still playing Carly. But that's all it is. lol. And at least Laura Wright can act circles around Mo, unlike Heinle who sleepwalks through her scenes. Anywho ..

 

Agreed on Jarlena. It's their best option at this point. I'll take it at this point.

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On 3/28/2020 at 7:29 PM, ghfan89 said:

What I heard was that SBu complained to Wendy Riche about the Jason/Carly plot, but when she wouldn't listen he went to Shapiro to get it changed. I think Guza wanted Carly with Jason and then Robin with Nik. There was a blurb in the magazines about a possible story with Nik and Robin falling in love only for Robin to find out The Cassadines having been holding Robert hostage the whole time he was "dead". 

 

I read when they brought back Lesley there was talk of Rick and a recast Mike Webber.

 

Speaking of Cassadines, Tony Geary's Endgame plot line was butchered, and the end of it had to be rewritten because of 9/11, there were going to introduce a biotoxin, instead we got Stavros falling into a bottomless pit. From what I've read, Tony's script didn't even have Stavros coming back and was more focused on Luke and Stefan coming to terms.

 

Another big one dropped was Gia as Sonny's sister. Gia and Taggert's mother, Florence, was suppose to have this huge past with Mike. Gia was suppose to be the half sister of both, caught in the middle in a similar manner her love interest Nik was between the Spencer and the Cassadines. All this rich development was dropped because JFP wanted Courtney.

 

Zander was suppose to be SBr Carly's adopted brother. There was even dialogue with Zander and Emily early on about how he grew up in Florida.

 

So many good ideas, on paper. Gia as Sonny's sister makes a lot more sense. Taggert and Sonny share a sister. Courtney was always unnecessary. ALW should have been a Sarah Webber recast.

 

I love the idea of tying Zander to SBr's Carly.

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