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GENERAL HOSPITAL SEPTEMBER 2019 DISCUSSION

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On 9/22/2019 at 8:33 AM, victorlord75 said:

Now that GH has fallen to the bottom of the pile, I'm expecting that if it stays there for too long, radical changes and/or cancellation won't be far off.  For me, GH hasn't been "must watch TV" since around the time of the show's 50th Anniversary.  Even though Prospect Park debacle has long since ended, we as viewers are still suffering from it.  In my opinion, that time was around when the show started to derail story-wise, and I fear now, may never get back on track again.

 

I haven't been truly invested since around the 50th too. Frank though seemed to have no interest in keeping certain characters around at the time (Brenda, Jax, Laura, etc.).

 

SO true on the Prospect Park debacle. We've never recovered. It all went downhill in 2014 (and I remain pissed at AJ and Duke both being offed again). Ron's first two years weren't horrible, but I know some hate all of his writing no matter what. At least I was invested and wanted to watch (the Sabrina [!@#$%^&*] was AWFUL though). Now I keep up out of habit and to basically poke fun at most of it. And also to see some vets who are allowed to cameo now and again. I can't really say I care about anything right now.

8 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Wow you know how bad the writing is when an actor even says WTF

 

 

 

DEAD

 

The actors know the show is crap.

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On 9/22/2019 at 7:33 AM, victorlord75 said:

Now that GH has fallen to the bottom of the pile, I'm expecting that if it stays there for too long, radical changes and/or cancellation won't be far off.  For me, GH hasn't been "must watch TV" since around the time of the show's 50th Anniversary.  Even though Prospect Park debacle has long since ended, we as viewers are still suffering from it.  In my opinion, that time was around when the show started to derail story-wise, and I fear now, may never get back on track again.

If days gets renewed instead of GH 😂

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I think ABC wants the show gone, even if Frank were under budget, it's still got to be costing them to air the show. I will LOL so hard if Days gets renewed over GH LMAO

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7 hours ago, KMan101 said:

 

I haven't been truly invested since around the 50th too. Frank though seemed to have no interest in keeping certain characters around at the time (Brenda, Jax, Laura, etc.).

 

SO true on the Prospect Park debacle. We've never recovered. It all went downhill in 2014 (and I remain pissed at AJ and Duke both being offed again). Ron's first two years weren't horrible, but I know some hate all of his writing no matter what. At least I was invested and wanted to watch (the Sabrina [!@#$%^&*] was AWFUL though). Now I keep up out of habit and to basically poke fun at most of it. And also to see some vets who are allowed to cameo now and again. I can't really say I care about anything right now.

 

The only good thing that came out of the Prospect Park debacle was that we got Maura West as Ava.

I actually liked Ron Carlivati's writing for the most part, though it is now proven that it wasn't he that was the problem with GH regarding the bloated cast or the focus being on all the wrong characters.  Love or hate Ron Carlivati, the one major element missing since his departure from GH is lack of payoff in the stories.  Does anyone else remember how sleep inducing the Nelle reveal was?  Notice too, how little attention the once great Nurse's Ball musters.  Carlivati knew how to write a payoff!

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23 minutes ago, victorlord75 said:

The only good thing that came out of the Prospect Park debacle was that we got Maura West as Ava.

I actually liked Ron Carlivati's writing for the most part, though it is now proven that it wasn't he that was the problem with GH regarding the bloated cast or the focus being on all the wrong characters.  Love or hate Ron Carlivati, the one major element missing since his departure from GH is lack of payoff in the stories.  Does anyone else remember how sleep inducing the Nelle reveal was?  Notice too, how little attention the once great Nurse's Ball musters.  Carlivati knew how to write a payoff!

NELLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CARLY'S LONG LOST DAUGHTER!!!

 

That said...I will give this to RC even now, his story might take a long time now with a messed up middle, but he does have payoffs. 

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Ron knows how to write a good story. His biggest flaw as a writer is that there's often no balance on the shows when he's writing. He doesn't know how to balance out serious dramatic stories with campy/OTT stories or good characters with bad or stupid characters, as we saw in 2015.

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I would be sad if GH got cancelled.  Yeah, it's basically unwatchable now, but it gave me some great memories as a kid/teen.  It gave me my favorite soap opera character of all time: Brenda Barrett.  It gave me Sonny and Brenda-who I was obsessed with in the 90's.  I don't watch regularly, but there is something comforting for me to see Sonny, Carly, Jason et al if I want to at 2pm everyday.  I honestly think GH should do a time jump like Days and just drop 75% of the cast.  The show isn't aggressively bad it just so boring.  I don't know I just hope there is some way to fix it before it's gone forever

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8 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I would be sad if GH got cancelled.  Yeah, it's basically unwatchable now, but it gave me some great memories as a kid/teen.  It gave me my favorite soap opera character of all time: Brenda Barrett.  It gave me Sonny and Brenda-who I was obsessed with in the 90's.  I don't watch regularly, but there is something comforting for me to see Sonny, Carly, Jason et al if I want to at 2pm everyday.  I honestly think GH should do a time jump like Days and just drop 75% of the cast.  The show isn't aggressively bad it just so boring.  I don't know I just hope there is some way to fix it before it's gone forever

I dont want any soap cancelled. So agreed.

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5 hours ago, carolineg said:

The show isn't aggressively bad it just so boring.  I don't know I just hope there is some way to fix it before it's gone forever

There is a way. It's just involves dumping Frank and a lot of his pets but clearly ABC doesn't want to do that. I did think yesterday's episode wasn't as boring as they usually are.

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GH was interrupted today for an Orange press conference.  Can anybody tell me how the show ended?  I think I saw about half.  Sam had told Shiloh that his daddy didn't like him,  Peter has Dev & Wiley and Jason is on his way to rescue Sam. 

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12 hours ago, Ponds said:

GH was interrupted today for an Orange press conference.  Can anybody tell me how the show ended?  I think I saw about half.  Sam had told Shiloh that his daddy didn't like him,  Peter has Dev & Wiley and Jason is on his way to rescue Sam. 

Nothing I hate more than when these shows get interrupted, for any reason. 

 

Regardless, Sam tried to hit Shiloh with a bottle. He stopped her, threw her down and was about to rape her when Jason came out of nowhere and shot him. Sam then went off to pilot the boat,  and then Shiloh came out of nowhere and tried to hit Jason with a bat or something and they started fighting.

 

Dev reunited Wiley with Brad, Lucas and Willow, and Laura started to question Peter as to why he was on the docks.

 

There was also some more sparing between Sonny and Jax over Josslyn and Dev.

 

And Aiden came across ToddFrankenDrew at the hospital and tried to jog his memory.

Edited by AbcNbc247

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I really don't want to see GH cancelled but...it needs new characters, a massive cast dismissal and a better writer. But that's asking for "too much" of ABC so never mind. It's sad that soaps have been lackluster for so long now but we can't stop watching them out of sheer nostalgia and audience loyalty. Please, is there anything that can make soaps better at this point? I hope there is!

Edited by ironlion

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2 hours ago, ironlion said:

I really don't want to see GH cancelled but...it needs new characters, a massive cast dismissal and a better writer. But that's asking for "too much" of ABC so never mind. It's sad that soaps have been lackluster for so long now but we can't stop watching them out of sheer nostalgia and audience loyalty. Please, is there anything that can make soaps better at this point? I hope there is!

I don’t want it to be cancelled either. Hoping for some big changes once all the secrets come out.

 

As for cast dismissals, everyone who needs to go is a pet, so they’re probably not going anywhere. 

Edited by AbcNbc247

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