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I loved Ellen Wheeler during her first stint of AW but not so much the second. Though that was probably more the writing where they made Marley crazy.

 

I'm glad I never watched much of GL during the Peapack debacle. The few times I tried to watch the show I couldn't handle the way they were shooting it. As far as the building houses out in the community thing, I tune in to soaps to watch something dramatic, soapy, and escape...not watch someone pound nails and building a house. I could do that somewhere here in town! 

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45 minutes ago, shamoostew said:

Was Jenson B a drunk back during her AW days?

 

If she was, no one knew about it. But, you have to remember that when she had the DUI & terrible accident, it was years after she'd left AW. End of AW, she was at ATWT for 2 days.Then she went directly to GH. Didn't she do Y&R after that? And, then, she had the accident. I think that tracks.

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4 hours ago, VanessaReardon said:

Good lord Donna. I will take JFP anyday over Ellen Wheeler!! Jill was at least a strong woman who made hard decisions, unpopular or not. Ellen Wheeler was an embarrassment to GL. Peapack was a worse decision over killing Maureen Bauer.  Peapack? I still shudder over that mess. No wonder the show was cancelled. 


We have to realize, though, that the writing was on the wall. I do respect her for a last ditch effort to try something different to save the show. It was a disaster, but at least they tried.

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4 minutes ago, juppiter said:


We have to realize, though, that the writing was on the wall. I do respect her for a last ditch effort to try something different to save the show. It was a disaster, but at least they tried.

 

Yes, the writing was on the wall for both ATWT & GL. Then, of course, across the pathway, the writing was on the wall for AMC & OLTL, too. We have lived through a truly terrible time.

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12 minutes ago, shamoostew said:

My sister lives in Peapack. Everyone in town loved Ellen Wheeler and the crew.  They said that some of the actors smelled bad though.

Not sure if this is just a joke, but if it's not it is worth wondering who smelled bad, lol.

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16 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

Not sure if this is just a joke, but if it's not it is worth wondering who smelled bad, lol.

29 minutes ago, shamoostew said:

My sister lives in Peapack. Everyone in town loved Ellen Wheeler and the crew. 

 

I love hearing that they loved EW & the crew!

 

I'll laugh with you. LOL

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5 hours ago, VanessaReardon said:

I will take JFP anyday over Ellen Wheeler!! Jill was at least a strong woman who made hard decisions, unpopular or not. Ellen Wheeler was an embarrassment to GL. Peapack was a worse decision over killing Maureen Bauer.  Peapack? I still shudder over that mess. No wonder the show was cancelled. 

 

Amen!

 

4 hours ago, KMan101 said:

Wheeler [...] 'meant well' [...] but wasn't the right person to handle that kind of transition. 

 

Amen to this as well!

 

2 hours ago, Melroser said:

As far as the building houses out in the community thing, I tune in to soaps to watch something dramatic, soapy, and escape...not watch someone pound nails and building a house.

 

Although I give GL's cast and crew for "giving back" on the occasion of their big anniversary...yeah, that needed to be left out of the show.

 

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3 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Amen!

 

 

Amen to this as well!

 

They did considerable work deciding on Ellen. And, I, for one, am glad they did. They had two Directors shadow Goutman for 2 years in preparation. Then, they made a decision.

2 hours ago, Melroser said:

I loved Ellen Wheeler during her first stint of AW but not so much the second. Though that was probably more the writing where they made Marley crazy.

 

I'm glad I never watched much of GL during the Peapack debacle. The few times I tried to watch the show I couldn't handle the way they were shooting it. As far as the building houses out in the community thing, I tune in to soaps to watch something dramatic, soapy, and escape...not watch someone pound nails and building a house. I could do that somewhere here in town! 

 

 

I truly loved watching the show. And, I found the different episodes inspiring.

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These two are the options? Wheeler or Phelps? Is there a none of the above option?JFP did much more damage to daytime than Wheeler did. She ruined four shows I watched before her tenure (had given up on YR by the time she got her grubby hands on it). I know people get up in arms about the Peapack stuff, but if the story had been there, I think viewers would have gone with it to save their show. I think Goutman was worse than Wheeler (as his tenure went on) but that's hardly praise.

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2 hours ago, chrisml said:

These two are the options? Wheeler or Phelps? Is there a none of the above option?JFP did much more damage to daytime than Wheeler did. She ruined four shows I watched before her tenure (had given up on YR by the time she got her grubby hands on it). I know people get up in arms about the Peapack stuff, but if the story had been there, I think viewers would have gone with it to save their show. I think Goutman was worse than Wheeler (as his tenure went on) but that's hardly praise.

 

Goutman is a mixed bag because he was good at AW & terrible at ATWT. You'd need a third show tiebreaker. I think it's shameful that people blame Ellen for the things they do. Phelps is much worse. Conboy is much worse. Then you have peeps like Rauch who also were mixed  bags - great some places & rotten to the core elsewhere. And we're not even getting into one of the worst modern aspects & that' s network interference!

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6 hours ago, Donna B said:

 

If she was, no one knew about it. But, you have to remember that when she had the DUI & terrible accident, it was years after she'd left AW. End of AW, she was at ATWT for 2 days.Then she went directly to GH. Didn't she do Y&R after that? And, then, she had the accident. I think that tracks.

 

If we go back to OLTL to begin at the beginning I think she was in 5 soaps total.

 

And now we have to remember that Zimmer had a DUI.

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13 hours ago, chrisml said:

These two are the options? Wheeler or Phelps? Is there a none of the above option?

 

It's just like when DAYS fans had to decide whether Stefano DiMera or John Black had fathered Hope Brady's baby.  Then, like now, no matter who you voted for, you knew you wouldn't feel good about it later.

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