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15 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Thanks for that.

 

Do you agree that the lack of these scenes is taking away from the stories?

 

Has Kyle met or discussed Alice?

Oh totally. There should be more. But I’ve found Fen to be mostly an intolerable doofus to this point.

 

Forgive me: who’s Alice? Not Alice Johnson, right?

 

Oh you mean Alice Hunter, who plays Kerry.

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38 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Apart from introductory scenes with Fen, have his parents shared any more scenes with him?

 

If not, I think this is a problem in that viewers are expected to accept what is basically a new character (new actor/new direction) without re-establishing his ties to familiar characters. Are Michael and Lauren aware of what is going on with him? Do they have a point of view?

 

Same with Kyle and Jack. Has he interacted with Lola? Has Kyle discussed their issues with his Dad?

 

Soap 101 - use family connections and keep vets viable by tying them into their children's stories.

 

Michael/Lauren shared some scenes with him at a party. Him and Lauren sung together and she told him that she would see if she could get Michael to financially support his dreams. They are supposed to be interacting together more in upcoming scenes. 2019 Spoilers says that Michael and Lauren will struggle on watching Fen make mistakes and will try and let him learn life lessons on his own.

 

I don't know if he's making mistakes professionally or personally, but they aren't going to like some of the stuff he's doing.  I wonder if he really ends up jeapoardizing his career for Ana and they don't like that. (There is a spoiler about Fen and Ana finding their backs against the wall.) And/or he revs up his pursuit of Lola and they think he's making a mistake. Or a combination of these things and maybe other things. 

 

Jack has met Lola before and him and Kyle interacted with her and Kerry at a party. They talked about how happy they were with Lola/Kerry.

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2 hours ago, xtr said:

Michael/Lauren shared some scenes with him at a party. Him and Lauren sung together and she told him that she would see if she could get Michael to financially support his dreams.

I'm amused that they've chosen to remember Lauren's musical past, but I wonder if this wouldn't be a more successful story for a recast Daniel, following his dreams to be like his father?

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1 hour ago, j swift said:

I'm amused that they've chosen to remember Lauren's musical past, but I wonder if this wouldn't be a more successful story for a recast Daniel, following his dreams to be like his father?

At least Lauren and Michael are getting some sort of exposure. I always liked their relationship and marriage. It would have been interesting if Paul had been used as a wedge between them with the history he shares with Lauren.

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According to soaps.com day ahead recap on tomorrow's episode, Victoria and Nikki will try to prevent Phyllis from speaking at the memorial. Victoria will ask Nick to escort Phyllis out. Phyllis will then ask why is everyone afraid of the truth regarding JT, and Reed will ask to be told the truth about his father. Phyllis will reveal that JT physically and emotionally abused Victoria. Reed will urge Victoria to set Phyllis straight ,but Victoria will confirm the truth. Reed will be upset, trash JT's picture and storm upstairs. Victoria will address the room and tell them about what happened between her and JT and that she doesn't think they had real love. She will mention she feels safe now. Mac will also mention that she feels safe that JT is now gone.

 

Traci will marvel at how JT changed and be sorry for what Victoria Mac endured. Nikki will be upset about what Phyllis revealed and will tell Phyllis it wasn't her truth to tell. Phyllis will struggle to explain her actions to Nick, and Billy will tell Phyllis "He didn't know that she could get any worse". Cane will tell Victoria he is deeply sorry about what she went through. Reed will end up appearing and will Victoria if JT hit her, she will say he grabbed her by the throat and Reed will sob in her arms. Billy will wish Victoria had told him the truth about JT, and Victoria will be glad he's in her corner. Later at the ranch Nikki will freak out when she sees a fire poker and will tell Nick that she killed JT. 

 

Rey and Sharon will be traveling in bad weather and will have to stay overnight in a motel with one room and one bed available. They will end up having a hard time sleeping and Sharon will end up inviting him to sleep in the bed with her, because he's uncomfortable sleeping in a chair. They will turn their backs to each other and wish each other sweet dreams.

 

And Arturo and Mia will continue to cuddle, and will reminisce about old times together. His friend will arrive with the furnace and he will fix it for Mia. She will find out that Sharon is with Rey, when Arturo tries to contact Sharon regarding the furnace and Mariah tells him that Sharon is stuck somewhere overnight with car trouble. She will tell Arturo that Rey doesn't love her anymore and that she feels like an obligation to him. Arturo will praise Mia for her good qualities and they will almost kiss. But Arturo will stop it and say they shouldn't be doing that. 

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12 minutes ago, xtr said:

Rey and Sharon will be traveling in bad weather and will have to stay overnight in a motel with one room and one bed available. They will end up having a hard time sleeping and Sharon will end up inviting him to sleep in the bed with her, because he's uncomfortable sleeping in a chair. They will turn their backs to each other and wish each other sweet dreams.

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, j swift said:

I'm amused that they've chosen to remember Lauren's musical past, but I wonder if this wouldn't be a more successful story for a recast Daniel, following his dreams to be like his father?

 

I think they went with Fen because both of his parents are still technically on canvas. Originally the casting call was just supposed to be someone who was going to be a waiter/aspiring singer. But I think later on they decided to make that character Fen. So far Lauren has been supportive of his dreams, whereas Michael is more reserved/not really feeling him wanting to be a singer. I am looking forward to watching him interact more with his parents. I think he's very believable as their child. He's looks a lot like/talks like Michael.

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Poor Reed. He didn't need to find out about his father that way. And it absolutely isn't Phyllis' truth to tell. Just when you think she couldn't get any lower...

 

Thanks again, xtr.

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Christian LeBlanc went around creating the Fiji girl meme when some of his castmates were taping upcoming scenes. I thought these pics were amusing:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks like we will be seeing Fen spend some time in Michael and Lauren's apartment. Also, it looks like Victoria, and Nick will tape some upcoming scenes with Christine. Also according to soaps.com there are some real reporters including Nischelle Turner from Entertainment Tonight/CNN who have taped upcoming scenes about a breaking news  regarding a murder in GC. I think that is about JT's murder investigation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here are some upcoming spoilers from SOD:

 

Billy is going to spill a secret, Jack will catch Kerry in a lie, Arturo will surprise Abby and Nick will question Phyllis. Victoria will enjoy getting closer to Billy, but will be hesitant to reconcile with him, because of problems they have had together in the past.  Phyllis will interrupt a meal with Victoria and Billy and pretend like it's only about business but then will tell Victoria  that Billy is only trying to get close to her, because Phyllis rejected him. This will put some doubt in Victoria's mind if Billy only wants to be with her, because Phyllis initially turned down his request to get back together with her. 

 

Also Mia will test Arturo, Nick will call a truce and Devon will take a chance. Nick has a change of heart regarding something, Cane's visit with Lily will take an unexpected turn and Nikki will be facing danger. And Fen will spend time with Michael,  Neil will worry about Ana and Billy will be out for revenge.

 

It looks like both Lily and possibly Neil will be showing up again. I wonder what will cause Neil to worry about Ana. I wonder if there is more to Ana than meets the eye. And I wonder what unexpected turn that Cane's visit to Lily will take.

 

Here are some pics from upcoming scenes:

 

 

Michael Fen sitting together..jpg

 

Cane Lily prison pic 1.jpg

 

 

Charlie Mattie arguing.jpg

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In the new promo for next week, Billy is going to catch Victoria making out with Cane on Victoria's couch. Kerry is also being shown holding what maybe looks like a syringe in her hand.

 

 

There are also rumors out there that someone did a walk through on set, and saw scenes where Billy goes and tells Lily in prison about Cane and Victoria kissing and it will devastate Lily. There is also a rumor out there that Billy will tell Reed about Victoria kissing Cane and Reed will leave town angry with his mother. Billy is supposed to be spilling a secret next week and maybe that is it. I also wonder what Kerry is up to. Spoilers from the 2019 SOD preview says that she has secrets, and the latest SOD spoilers says that Jack will catch her in a lie.

 

Also according to soaps.com day ahead recap for Monday's episode. Nikki will finish telling Nick the truth about killing JT. Nick will want to protect her and clear Victor's name. He will make sure that security is around Nikki. Arturo is going to accuse Mia of liking having power over him and Rey. Mia will say that she needs someone who is all in for her, and that she knows that Rey and Sharon have feelings for each other. She will say that her and Arturo have made imprints on each other's hearts. Arturo will say it's dangerous to be around her and leave. He will end up going to the Abbott mansion and telling Abby that he loves her.

 

Later on Mia will confront Rey about lying about being with Sharon. Rey will say he lied because he didn't want to upset her but that nothing happened with Sharon and he won't stop fighting for his and Mia's marriage. They kiss. Also, Billy will confront Phyllis about her actions at the memorial and she will say she feels bad about it. Billy will also end up telling Victoria he's glad she loves him and that reconnecting with her and their children is good enough for him right now. Victoria will be happy there isn't any pressure in their relationship right now. She will comfort Reed again who will ask if JT is a bad person. Victoria will say he changed and urge Reed to remember JT in his own way. Reed will say he's ready to go back to school.

 

And Nick will end up forgiving Phyllis for her actions at the memorial. 

 

And this is not a spoiler, but I thought that this was a nice pic. The actors that play Kerry, Nate, Ana and Fen hung out last night:

 

Kerry Nate Ana and Fen.jpg

 

 

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^^^Utterly disappointed in that scene. I guess Mal's work will still show for some time but that scenes is a result of this spoiler...

 


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Billy & Victoria are dining out.
Victoria & Billy have grown closer .. but .. she still remembers their not-so-good times.   so she's cautious.

Phyllis interrupts them .. saying she needs to talk business.

Instead of talking business .. Phyllis tells Victoria that Billy's only with her because Phyllis turned down his request for a reunion.

Victoria wonders if she's only Billy's backup plan.
 
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14 minutes ago, BellaCuore said:

^^^Utterly disappointed in that scene. I guess Mal's work will still show for some time but that scenes is a result of this spoiler...

 


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Billy & Victoria are dining out.
Victoria & Billy have grown closer .. but .. she still remembers their not-so-good times.   so she's cautious.

Phyllis interrupts them .. saying she needs to talk business.

Instead of talking business .. Phyllis tells Victoria that Billy's only with her because Phyllis turned down his request for a reunion.

Victoria wonders if she's only Billy's backup plan.
 
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I could see her kissing Cane after the scenes at the dinner play out. I do wonder what leads Cane to go over to her house again. Also, I heard rumors/reports that Billy will end up telling Lily and Reed that Victoria is cheating with Cane. (Though I haven't seen any credible source specifically confirming that yet.) If so, that is low on Billy's end. It's one thing to tell Lily, as he cares about her, it's another thing to tell Reed, who is already reeling from learning bad stuff about his father.  

 

That will further hurt Reed, who is already upset because one of his parents turned out to be worse than what he thought. He's already devastated by learning what JT did, he's going to be even more hurt if he learns his mother is cheating with Cane. I think that if Billy tells Reed about Cane/Victoria that is unnecessary and not the best move for him to make. If their relationship progresses even further Reed will find out eventually. 

 

 

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