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16 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Um are you out of your mind. The Mattie actress as Ana? The actress playing Ana now has acted circles around that Mattie girl and she’s only been around a month.  

 

I do agree, I’m not interested in music on soaps at all though. It actually annoys me.

The actress who plays Mattie needs to be dumped too. She cant act worth a damn. Neither can the Charlie actor.

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20 minutes ago, frequentsoapfan said:

The actress who plays Mattie needs to be dumped too. She cant act worth a damn. Neither can the Charlie actor.

 

They're both dreadful. But hey, they have the sourpuss teenager thing down pat!

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17 hours ago, Eboneece said:

Let us not forget Diana DiGarmo’s awful character under MAB. I still wince when I think about it. 

 

MAB. *Shudder*

18 hours ago, JabotCEO said:

So did I.  Add that set to the list -- though, it was pretty hideous and did not serve it's purpose well.  Even more remarkable now that I think of it, we have Mariah, the host of this very successful nationally-syndicated gossip/news show living in a one room apartment with her girlfriend.  I guess we are supposed to suspend belief and assume she brings home less money than a substitute teacher working in an inner city. 😒

 

lol I'm dead. But it's so true. They act like things are popular world wide yet Mariah lives in a one-room. Um, ok.

 

I for one would love to totally forget about GC Buzz. Anytime a soap tries to be "hip and current" it fails. It worked because of Hilary and Mishael, but I was never a fan of GC Buzz. The set could have been used for something better.

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10 minutes ago, Costello said:

Fen is a dolt, and Ana is way out of his league.

 

I believe being around her will elevate him/make him a better man. I could see him growing and maturing as a man, largely because of interacting with her. (Even if that's only through friendship). It would be nice to see that type of transformation happen.

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7 minutes ago, xtr said:

 

I believe being around her will elevate him/make him a better man. I could see him growing and maturing as a man, largely because of interacting with her. It would be nice to see that type of transformation happen.

I’d be fine with that only if they give Ana options (another dude), and Fen has to earn her respect. If she’s just pining over him while he moons over Lola, that’s a no-go. (And Kyle/Lola are so obviously positioned to be endgame, so I’d be suspicious of Kyle/Ana.)

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9 minutes ago, Costello said:

I’d be fine with that only if they give Ana options (another dude), and Fen has to earn her respect. If she’s just pining over him while he moons over Lola, that’s a no-go.

 

Maybe that is where somebody like Kyle comes into play. Kyle seems to recognize Ana's value/good qualities right off the bat and did stand up for her to Fen. I could see Kyle getting to know Ana/coming to care for her and some interesting things developing. Especially in light of that Kyle/Lola spoiler from SOD. I could see Kyle calling out Fen for not valuing Ana enough.

 

I do like how she deals with Fen, and I hope that she won't be stuck just pining over him while he's pining over Lola. The first time they met, it did seem like Ana was smitten with him. But since they've interacted together more, she is showing that she is confident and that she won't take foolishness from him. I think that's a good sign for the possible development of their relationship. I think her taking her career in the music industry seriously and having professional goals will help as well.

 

 

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What’s “odd” is that Fen (dumb and entitled) and Kyle (arrogant and entitled) are allowed to have prominent flaws while Lola and Ana are presented as Mary Sue paragons of virtue. Granted, both Lola and Ana are both very new characters (Ana as an adult) so there’s still time for the usual soap fückery, but these stories have been so skewed to a male POV thus far. Lola’s been around longer, so she should be more of a 3-D human by now. 

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I am definitely fine with the way Ana is written so far.  I think she's very lovely and seems like a good woman overall. For me that is a good thing especially when there are already a lot of super flawed characters/annoying/slimy characters. I think that she is a breath of fresh air. Plus, I think we will see more facets of her personality. And the other day she did clash with Devon some, because she lied to him and was trying to advance herself and her career. (And maybe also doing it because she likes Fen.) We may see more of that.  I don't think she's a straight up Mary Sue.

 

Lola on the hand, I can kind of see that with her. (And truth be told I was mostly okay with the way she's been written too). But if the spoilers with Kyle play out like I think they will, she's about to really annoy me, lol. I think she's going to show some not no nice qualities, by IMO not being as accepting as she should be regarding his lifestyle and who he is.

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8 hours ago, Costello said:

What’s “odd” is that Fen (dumb and entitled) and Kyle (arrogant and entitled) are allowed to have prominent flaws while Lola and Ana are presented as Mary Sue paragons of virtue. Granted, both Lola and Ana are both very new characters (Ana as an adult) so there’s still time for the usual soap fückery, but these stories have been so skewed to a male POV thus far. Lola’s been around longer, so she should be more of a 3-D human by now. 

 

Ana's drama will come fighting Devon for her career. Hoping he's not made into a total jerk to make her rootable. It's not needed but that's just how Y&R writes. 

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15 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Ana's drama will come fighting Devon for her career. Hoping he's not made into a total jerk to make her rootable. It's not needed but that's just how Y&R writes. 

 

The other day we did seem them clashing a bit in the studio, though Devon did soften a bit towards her, when he said she could sit in on the session and could input her opinion. I am interested in seeing what will happen as she's trying to become a producer and make a name for herself in the music industry. Also I saw a new spoiler that says that:

 

Spoiler

Ana will tell Fen a secret. I wonder what the secret is and if it's good or bad, major or minor personal or professional. I am interested in learning what the secret is and how that will affect Ana's storyline.

 

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15 hours ago, frequentsoapfan said:

The actress who plays Mattie needs to be dumped too. She cant act worth a damn. Neither can the Charlie actor.

I actually don’t mind the Charlie actor.

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18 hours ago, xtr said:

 

 

 

 

I definitely think that Mariah makes enough money as the host of GC Buzz to afford a decent looking apartment. I actually think she probably made enough to live on her own, when Hilary was running GC Buzz and Mariah was her co-host. (Though I can understand why Mariah wanted to live with Sharon/her family especially given how close they are). 

 

IMO, Rey has a better looking apartment than Mariah does. At least he has a bedroom set. Mariah and Tessa have to sleep in that pull out couch in the living room.

 

Mariah and Tessa live in a DUMP. It’s ridiculous — one of the worst sets I’ve ever seen on daytime.

16 hours ago, frequentsoapfan said:

The actress who plays Mattie needs to be dumped too. She cant act worth a damn. Neither can the Charlie actor.

 

I stuck with those two for a long time, but neither has improved. They’re just not good enough. I’d dump them both.

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1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

 

Mariah and Tessa live in a DUMP. It’s ridiculous — one of the worst sets I’ve ever seen on daytime.

 

I stuck with those two for a long time, but neither has improved. They’re just not good enough. I’d dump them both.

Like the host of this apparently national tv show lives in a damn roach motel of an apartment? Like these writers are so dumb.

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4 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

 

Mariah and Tessa live in a DUMP. It’s ridiculous — one of the worst sets I’ve ever seen on daytime.

 

I stuck with those two for a long time, but neither has improved. They’re just not good enough. I’d dump them both.

I'm glad they dumped Shauna as she was terrible too. Time to dump Tessa, Mattie, and Charlie next. 

 

I think they did a better job casting Lola and Ana. And Kyle has grown on me. 

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