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And Carly and A.J. still name their son Michael, and not Alan James Quartermaine, III. Not likely, since Michael was named for Sonny. There are a lot of WTFs in this episode.

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13 hours ago, depboy said:

Not at all GH related, but OMG the posters at SOC are off their meds.  Between the constant Friz vs JaSam wars, the Sonny apologists, and the people who can’t construct full sentences, I’ve lost so many brain cells reading the posts, that I feel as though I am not much more than a plate of mashed potatoes on my mother’s Thanksgiving Day table.  I try to be objective when I go to message boards, honestly I do, but the incoherent ramblings of the posters over there make it very difficult.

 

I get it. I get the passion behind loving the show.  I get that people are drawn to certain characters/couples.  But the ignorance that has infected the boards there has reached a whole other level of WTF.

 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.

 

 

 

 

It really is like an alternate dimension over there. A lot of people say the same thing

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1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

How stupid.  How would Stone and Robin even have met?  He worked for Sonny who worked for Frank Smith running the club and other illegal activities.

 

In theory Stone and Robin could have met through Brenda and Jagger.  Robin actually met Stone through Brenda on GH at Jagger's boxing match.  Not defending GH because Sonny had a 25th show without a single Brenda mention which hurts my S&B loving soul, but there are actual ways Stone and Robin could have had a relationship without Sonny. 

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^^^^I doubt it.  This regime seems to have little interest in Brenda.  Oh well, it would have been a way better episode if the writers would have done a what if Sonny left the mob and married Brenda episode, but bringing Dante back was okay.  Too bad MB has little connection or chemistry with Olivia.  The whole premise was odd.  Like either way Sonny would have shot his own son so it's cool.  😆  Okay, Gh...

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2 hours ago, dragonflies said:

It really is like an alternate dimension over there. A lot of people say the same thing

I cant stand SOC. I had to leave that board years ago. It's the reason I ended up finding here. Too many biased mods over there too who truly believe all the actors are reading their boards.

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4 minutes ago, frequentsoapfan said:

I cant stand SOC. I had to leave that board years ago. It's the reason I ended up finding here. Too many biased mods over there too who truly believe all the actors are reading their boards.

 

I would have to say SOC has some bizarre fanbases.  So much Liason/Friz/Jasam love.  Even a lot of Sonny/Carson love.  Does that make up the fanbase these days?  I am not a frequent GH viewer anymore, but it's ridiculously pro Sam.  Is Sam that popular?  I have never considered her anything but a Brenda wannabe that became a popular character.  She literally has 0 characteristics I could tell you about except she is Jason's 'ride or die' chick.

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7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

 

I would have to say SOC has some bizarre fanbases.  So much Liason/Friz/Jasam love.  Even a lot of Sonny/Carson love.  Does that make up the fanbase these days?  I am not a frequent GH viewer anymore, but it's ridiculously pro Sam.  Is Sam that popular?  I have never considered her anything but a Brenda wannabe that became a popular character.  She literally has 0 characteristics I could tell you about except she is Jason's 'ride or die' chick.

I always felt Sam was a Brenda ripoff as well. I find her to be such a ridiculous character. She's been forced on us since day one. I remember when she first started and they had her with Jax and that stupid Dead Man's Hand (?) story that soaked up airtime. Then she was with Sonny and was, of course, on nearly every day. And then the Alexis connection that came out of nowhere which just made me hate her even more. Not to mention I could never stand Kelly's whispering and sleepy acting. I never understood the appeal. I still don't. But it is funny to watch the Dream and Jasam fans go at it on twitter!

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19 minutes ago, WebberFan said:

I always felt Sam was a Brenda ripoff as well. I find her to be such a ridiculous character. She's been forced on us since day one. I remember when she first started and they had her with Jax and that stupid Dead Man's Hand (?) story that soaked up airtime. Then she was with Sonny and was, of course, on nearly every day. And then the Alexis connection that came out of nowhere which just made me hate her even more. Not to mention I could never stand Kelly's whispering and sleepy acting. I never understood the appeal. I still don't. But it is funny to watch the Dream and Jasam fans go at it on twitter!

 

Oh Sam was 100% a Brenda rip off in the beginning.  From what I understand, she just had a tweaked sort of version of VM's storyline if she hadn't left so abruptly in 2002.  Getting pregnant by Sonny falling in love with Jason, etc.   I believe an S&B baby would have lived and S&B were the endgame, but it was the basic plot points.  Someone posted the full storyline on the web years ago and it made sense.  Kelly is pretty, but she is like Brenda (even 2010 Brenda) on a large dose of Xanax.  I mean, good for you, Kelly Monaco for doing what no other Brenda wannabes did and be relevant on your own, but I have never gotten her appeal.   I know daytime isn't right for Vanessa anymore (the fast pace seems to really kill her performance), but she had a spark in her original run that no one on this show right now could even touch, not to mention she was probably the most beautiful woman on daytime in the 90's.  KM always looks a little ridden hard and put away wet.

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I've been saying for fourteen years that Sam's big break in '04 was just a reskinned version of Guza's plans for Jason/Brenda and folks kept calling me crazy. The writing and interplay was designed to be the same initially. It was very obvious at the time.

 

That being said, flaws and all I've come to like Kelly for what she is good at, which is not being Jason's gun moll.

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13 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

I've been saying for fourteen years that Sam's big break in '04 was just a reskinned version of Guza's plans for Jason/Brenda and folks kept calling me crazy. The writing and interplay was designed to be the same initially. It was very obvious at the time.

 

That being said, flaws and all I've come to like Kelly for what she is good at, which is not being Jason's gun moll.

 

 

I don't really have a problem with Kelly she is just so zzzzzz.....  I mean she's fine, but not ever going to be a fan favorite for any real longtime GH fan.

 

I thought it was common knowledge they poached Kelly after PC's cancellation to fill the role of Brenda.  Guza never thought VM was going to leave and literally had built the show around her.  Dumb idea, but Kelly came in to finish it off.  Brazen/S&B were always the story.  I think Jax was just an outsider in all the Brenda stories, so Kelly just picked up where the ruins were.  I mean I get the Guza idea: S&B baby, Brazen, it's kinda golden but without Brenda it's just another Sonny baby mama.

 

GH spent far too many years trying to replace Brenda in the worst ways.  It wasn't going to happen hence the rise of Carly as a lead.

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Sam is a Brenda bot. And they made her a PI even though her criminal background would never allow for it and we're supposed to pretend she does such an amazing job when her main job seems to be sitting on the couch with Jason. And then Kelly is such a low energy non actress.

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21 minutes ago, frequentsoapfan said:

Sam is a Brenda bot. And they made her a PI even though her criminal background would never allow for it and we're supposed to pretend she does such an amazing job when her main job seems to be sitting on the couch with Jason. And then Kelly is such a low energy non actress.

 

PREACH. I've never been a fan of Sam for many reasons. Talk about one of the most useless characters ever. LOL

Just now, titan1978 said:

I liked her far more as Livvie.

 

Me too.

54 minutes ago, carolineg said:

 

 

I don't really have a problem with Kelly she is just so zzzzzz.....  I mean she's fine, but not ever going to be a fan favorite for any real longtime GH fan.

 

I thought it was common knowledge they poached Kelly after PC's cancellation to fill the role of Brenda.  Guza never thought VM was going to leave and literally had built the show around her.  Dumb idea, but Kelly came in to finish it off.  Brazen/S&B were always the story.  I think Jax was just an outsider in all the Brenda stories, so Kelly just picked up where the ruins were.  I mean I get the Guza idea: S&B baby, Brazen, it's kinda golden but without Brenda it's just another Sonny baby mama.

 

GH spent far too many years trying to replace Brenda in the worst ways.  It wasn't going to happen hence the rise of Carly as a lead.

 

Pretty much all of this

1 hour ago, WebberFan said:

I always felt Sam was a Brenda ripoff as well. I find her to be such a ridiculous character. She's been forced on us since day one. I remember when she first started and they had her with Jax and that stupid Dead Man's Hand (?) story that soaked up airtime. Then she was with Sonny and was, of course, on nearly every day. And then the Alexis connection that came out of nowhere which just made me hate her even more. Not to mention I could never stand Kelly's whispering and sleepy acting. I never understood the appeal. I still don't. But it is funny to watch the Dream and Jasam fans go at it on twitter!

 

Yesss ... lol

 

Everyone's saying all I've thought for years and years. I sort of like Kelly but Sam is just so pointless and useless and has always felt like a placeholder. 

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