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I wonder what the point of Lily/Nick is? Nick needs a character with some spark, since he doesn't have much on his own. You can see it's not working with Chelsea because she's too nice, so Lily is probably going to be the same. 

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On ‎10‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 11:12 AM, UK LAW said:

One episode equals one day? And the increase in pace that would entail. 

Didn’t Lynn Marie Latham try something similar when she was Head Writer and Executive Producer?

 

Without seeing the whole interview, I can’t assess the whole picture but I wouldn’t be surprised if Y&R starts to resemble a more ‘glammed up’ British soap, in terms of pacing and whatnot, because Mal Young may have been in the US for nearly 15 years now but he got his writing and production education in the UK where 22-27 minute soaps could represent a day. 

 

So, for example, expansive scenes that are played out over several acts or conversations split between scenes will be few and far between, I would guess.

 

And I remember a source of frustration a few years ago amongst people over characters appearing in 3-4 locations in one episode. Under this one episode, one day shift, depending on how many characters feature in an episode, that may become the norm.

 

Again, I’d have to see the full interview to make a more informed assessment/prediction.

Kinda like the Jack thing I mentioned earlier which was jarring. Ha! Case for twerks to the script proven.

 

 

WATCHING WEDNESDAY'S EPISODE FROM LAST WEEK AND...

 

...AWWW HELL TO THE NO.  You had Cane talk to Jill off screen and all of a sudden he gets to bounce back and is already in Billy's face being smug.

 

Uh...no. What of the best stories has been Cane's well deserved fall from grace. I at least wanted to see how low he would go to get back to the top. This? Is just whiplash. I'm gonna need him to have several seats.

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49 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Nick needs a character with some spark, since he doesn't have much on his own.

 

Unfortunately, I think most female characters on Y&R who possess spark and are paired with Nick end up LOSING said spark; and that's because Nick (and JM) just sucks the life out of everyone around him.  As it is, Lily tends to blend into the wallpaper for me, so if she hooks up with Nick...?  Oh Gawd.

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I just watched Wednesday’s episode (it’s starting to appear online, thank you Canada) and there is a definite tonal shift and yes, the pace has increased. 

 

It’s like watching the show on fast forward, ‘dramatic’ and ponderous pauses already consigned to history. And is it telling that Amanda Beall was given the script? Whereas most of the recent new head writers have begun with Janice Ferri Esser/Natalie Minardi Slater or any longer term writers to capture the ‘essence’ of Y&R

 

No spoilers in this post, mind. 

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On ‎10‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 12:10 AM, ranger1rg said:

 

I just don’t think this will work. I agree that the proper beats can’t be played when every episode is a new day.

 

So Mal doesn’t like 3-day parties? I do, when they’re done right. A lot can happen, different characters can be woven in and out, and wardrobe can go all out to dress a good many cast members. Does this mean no more cliffhangers?

 

Sounds like now we’ll be lucky we ever GET a big party or celebration. Why go all out with a great set and great wardrobe/hair for one day? 

 

If Young said he’d do this some or even most of the time, I wouldn’t be so bothered by it, but his plan sounds FORCED, and I just can’t see the upside. It’s change for change’s sake. It sounds  desperate. It sounds like once again we’re getting a guy in charge who doesn’t give a sh*t about what Y&R has been and is.

If it makes you feel better read the interview finally and he does admit that while the '1 day, 1 episode' is the format he will using, he also admits that he is realistic enough to know that might be some times where he can't do that due to nature of story.

 

Like you I am worried about how that would effect cliffhangers. Saw a bit of spoiler below...well for me since I have not gotten to those episodes yet so I don't see this format working for long. Can't keep the tension up.

 

Oh...almost forgot...sounds like there might be times when the following episode would pick up from the one before. Maybe.

32 minutes ago, UK LAW said:

I just watched Wednesday’s episode (it’s starting to appear online, thank you Canada) and there is a definite tonal shift and yes, the pace has increased. 

 

It’s like watching the show on fast forward, ‘dramatic’ and ponderous pauses already consigned to history. And is it telling that Amanda Beall was given the script? Whereas most of the recent new head writers have begun with Janice Ferri Esser/Natalie Minardi Slater or any longer term writers to capture the ‘essence’ of Y&R

 

No spoilers in this post, mind. 

Sounds uh oh-y to me.

 

Can't wait to get a feel for everyone else's opinion tomorrow.

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Did Lily basically call Nick dumb in today's episode?  She talked about wanting to abandon her responsibilities, be a little reckless and have sex with an "uncomplicated" guy like Nick.:huh:

 

Uncomplicated as in simple? Seems like she's calling Nick simple, or a simpleton.:lol:

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1 hour ago, UK LAW said:

I just watched Wednesday’s episode (it’s starting to appear online, thank you Canada) and there is a definite tonal shift and yes, the pace has increased. 

 

It’s like watching the show on fast forward, ‘dramatic’ and ponderous pauses already consigned to history. And is it telling that Amanda Beall was given the script? Whereas most of the recent new head writers have begun with Janice Ferri Esser/Natalie Minardi Slater or any longer term writers to capture the ‘essence’ of Y&R

 

No spoilers in this post, mind. 

Hey, can you PM me the episode?

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15 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Did Lily basically call Nick dumb in today's episode?  She talked about wanting to abandon her responsibilities, be a little reckless and have sex with an "uncomplicated" guy like Nick.:huh:

 

Uncomplicated as in simple? Seems like she's calling Nick simple, or a simpleton.:lol:

 

I think I might like MY's Y&R after all! ;)

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39 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Did Lily basically call Nick dumb in today's episode?  She talked about wanting to abandon her responsibilities, be a little reckless and have sex with an "uncomplicated" guy like Nick.:huh:

 

Uncomplicated as in simple? Seems like she's calling Nick simple, or a simpleton.:lol:

She's not wrong.

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1 hour ago, Juliajms said:

She's not wrong.

 

She's not!:lol:

 

 

Y&R has done plenty of mediocre but there are a handful of things they've done right recently.

 

One thing Y&R has done over the last year is construct good breakup scenes between married couples. The Jack/Phyllis and the Lily/Cane squabbles scenes were pretty good in illustrating the squabbling and disagreements as a relationship is fracturing.

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4 hours ago, Juliajms said:

I wonder what the point of Lily/Nick is? Nick needs a character with some spark, since he doesn't have much on his own. You can see it's not working with Chelsea because she's too nice, so Lily is probably going to be the same. 

 

I think Lily and Nick is a homage to that fantasy episode a while back. Twitter expressed interest and Mal heard them. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

She's not!:lol:

 

 

Y&R has done plenty of mediocre but there are a handful of things they've done right recently.

 

One thing Y&R has done over the last year is construct good breakup scenes between married couples. The Jack/Phyllis and the Lily/Cane squabbles scenes were pretty good in illustrating the squabbling and disagreements as a relationship is fracturing.

It wouldnt surprise me if Natalee Minerdi and Janice Ferri learned how to write these kinds of scenes when Jean P was hw. Jean is a master at breakup scenes like Atwt when carjack broke up on the staircase. The biz gave her so many enthusiastic  bravas for that writing.

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