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Re Ravi the stalker. SS said she was not impressed with previous regimes who turned viable characters into stalkers/lunatics ,so I dont think that is the plan for this character.

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20 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Re Ravi the stalker. SS said she was not impressed with previous regimes who turned viable characters into stalkers/lunatics ,so I dont think that is the plan for this character.

 

I don't trust what writers says because what they say they are going to do,  they end up doing the opposite.

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43 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Re Ravi the stalker. SS said she was not impressed with previous regimes who turned viable characters into stalkers/lunatics ,so I dont think that is the plan for this character.

 

Not sure Ravi falls into the viable character category. I think she meant core and those connected to core, i.e. Adam, Neil. 

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9 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Not sure Ravi falls into the viable character category. I think she meant core and those connected to core, i.e. Adam, Neil. 

 

She specifically mentioned Carmine so Ravi certainly applies. 

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Well, I'm hopeful that SS won't turn to the psycho kind of characters. I reached my limit with Marco, which was just plain ridiculous.  I think a lot of soap writers want to do better, but the pressure of writing five episodes a week tends to wear people down. When they run out of ideas they tend to turn to various troupes. With any luck that won't happen to SS, especially if she manages to slow the pace while keeping people interested.

 

Every time they show Mariah remember that scene with Hillary watching her fall, I expect something more to come of it. Like Mariah is going to remember that the shoe had been tampered with or something. Otherwise WTH is the point?

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The moments from Friday's preview came out much better in the show than they made it look. They amped it up for drama, but for once Nick made sense when he said they must try not to confuse Christian too much. And it played very well into that great last scene with Dylan walking off to the side then acting like he was holding a baby. And how wonderfully Sharon is handling the whole thing. I finally feel like I recognize her.

 

Another scene that felt like classic Y&R was how Sharon answered the door and Nikki was standing there and then we had that close up of her. And I thought it was nice that Sharon mentioned it was difficult saying goodbye to Christian but didn't say it was Dylan who felt that way -- publicly, she supported him by making it sound like she shared his opinion. They've done such a great job making Sharon/Dylan come off as a couple. SC has these little moments where she fixes Dylan's jacket or whatever, and it comes off very realistic. And how fun that she wrote a text and deleted it. You don't often see real moments like these on shows.

 

Once again, Jack & Hilary's friendship really worked. I didn't have a problem with the way Mariah found out the news. Devon went to GC Buzz presumably to tell her that her temporary host job is done, and that's what happened. I guess they are going with some kind of sabotage from Hilary.

 

Hello -- Ashley Abbott's clothes came back! lmao Even Davidson was more Ashley than Kristen. I really liked the stuff with Ravi. I didn't necessarily get a stalker vibe although I can see how it could lead to that. But I think they're playing a crush. I wonder what he had to tell her. Ashley was her typical politely cold way with Nikki. 

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6 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Unsurprising. But are you sure that was the reason. They paired Raul with white actresses too...although they never truly committed with him as constant second banana. You know what? Never mind. Lol

 

Definitely sure.

 

The difference between the Gutierrez brothers was that Raul was always the second lead of that era's teen scene so him being paired with white actresses wasn't a big deal.

 

However Diego was intended to be a Leading Man (which Y&R was in desperate need of in that era) so in typical Y&R fashion that meant going whiter.

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29 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Definitely sure.

 

The difference between the Gutierrez brothers was that Raul was always the second lead of that era's teen scene so him being paired with white actresses wasn't a big deal.

 

However Diego was intended to be a Leading Man (which Y&R was in desperate need of in that era) so in typical Y&R fashion that meant going whiter.

 

Raul was definitely always the foil. 

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Y&R missed a HUGE opportunity by wasting the Gutierrez & Hodges families.

 

Y&R tried introducing another Latino family a decade later with Rafael & Estella but by then the entire show was such a mess the whole exercise proved pointless.

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5 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Y&R missed a HUGE opportunity by wasting the Gutierrez & Hodges families.

 

Y&R tried introducing another Latino family a decade later with Rafael & Estella but by then the entire show was such a mess the whole exercise proved pointless.

 

I think the show could have built new core families around any of the Glow by Jabot kids. JT could have had relatives too. 

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JT actually did have relatives.

 

His aunt was around (briefly) & his parents were often referenced initially (but not seen).

 

The only (main) GBJ Kid who didn't receive a lot of background was Rianna but that was largely made up for during her relationship with Raul.

 

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5 hours ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

I don't trust what writers says because what they say they are going to do,  they end up doing the opposite.

 

Then why bother watching at all?

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9 hours ago, Juliajms said:

Every time they show Mariah remember that scene with Hillary watching her fall, I expect something more to come of it. Like Mariah is going to remember that the shoe had been tampered with or something. Otherwise WTH is the point?

 

Exactly. Like what's the point?

7 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Y&R missed a HUGE opportunity by wasting the Gutierrez & Hodges families.

 

Yep. Agreed.

 

The second Diego was recast with Greg Vaughan it was obvious they didn't care about building a family around Raul. David Lago should probably still be on the show (not sure he wanted to be, I don't remember his exit or why he left).

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