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35 minutes ago, ryanc said:

Well for me DS played Lily with way more depth. I was just watching this clip the other day and it made me miss her even more: 

 

 now to me that looks like a real interaction between a mother and daughter. 

 

Yeah, I was watching this the other day as well as this one... I miss her a lot!! :wub: I can admit it: CK would never be able to pull this off. Then or now or ever. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

OT but has anyone seen CG write up previewing the latest spat between Mariah and Hilary in SOD? And I quote: "Mariah knows Hilary is dirty, nasty, and untrustworthy."

 

Is this typically how actresses talk about each other's characters? I've never seen anything like it but maybe my point of reference is off.  I'm rubbed all the way wrong but I could be overreacting. 

 

 

Through Mariah's character, that's how  Hilary has treated her, She's just trying to get readers to buy the magazine and engage viewers. I'm sure CG isn't standing around at a Christmas party talking like that. It's promotion--Mount Saint Hinsey Style.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@mr. sweet Judith Chapman is wonderful, but Gloria can grate on you, depending on the writing...we'll see soon!

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6 hours ago, mr. sweet said:

I know I am gonna be ripped a new one for this statement but I'll say it anyway. :lol: :lol: I think there are only two weak actresses on this show and those are HKK and MO. (And no, I'm not trolling) HKK was good at the beginning but she's currently the most annoying presence on this show. She seems to have no range besides whiny, weepy or awkward. MO tries but she's just kinda there even though she is miles better than the other Abby's. Even though MO ain't no great actress, it still kind of works because Abby is meant to be a non-entity. She's this light fun type even if she's Victor's daughter. There's really no depth in the character so it's not like I'm demanding a better actress to play the role. What role?

 

This post is meant to be ripped to shreds obviously because I know peeps will strongly add CK and AH to the list. I disagree but I guess that's what makes it fun (I Think...I hope). :lol:

 

Not ripping you but IMO, CK and AH are in the exact same range as MO and HHK. None of them are very strong. I see no difference between any of them. AH sometimes tries. MO tries. HHK apparently hones her comedic skills but fails to hone her dramatic skills. CK is no different than MO, IMO.

 

I agree about CG. Mariah would have to know Hillary wanted to sabotage her. Hillary HAS been untrustworthy to them and Sharon and Dylan. I don't love it, but they have every right to dislike her. Hillary HAS been nasty to Mariah. As I have said, this feud the show wants between them just isn't going to work. JMO. They should be friends instead. Mariah wasn't exactly a saint when she came to GC.

8 hours ago, slick jones said:

Nope, He also said Fen and Scotty would be home next year. I know it's wishful thinking, but I hope they will both be back by then. 

 

 

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As they should be. I hope that call was for Scotty. They were mentioned a few times IIRC and they even had Gloria on the phone with Fen. I also liked they brought up Michael and Kevin's pasts when they each first came to GC and how they are now on the right side of the law. Little things like that give viewers insight to a character and their past. I liked it. I haven't loved the whitewashing of Kevin over the years, he came on QUITE rough and strong, I won't forget, but it does elicit a chuckle that Kevin now works for the GCPD. Only on a soap folks.

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6 hours ago, mr. sweet said:

 

Yeah, I was watching this the other day as well as this one... I miss her a lot!! :wub: I can admit it: CK would never be able to pull this off. Then or now or ever. 

 

 

 

Remember that time when Dru dragged CKLily away from Daniel, she was crying for Daniel help. Daniel looked scared himself. I can just picture Davetta in the role at that time.

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7 hours ago, slick jones said:

 

Through Mariah's character, that's how  Hilary has treated her, She's just trying to get readers to buy the magazine and engage viewers. I'm sure CG isn't standing around at a Christmas party talking like that. It's promotion--Mount Saint Hinsey Style.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@mr. sweet Judith Chapman is wonderful, but Gloria can grate on you, depending on the writing...we'll see soon!

 

Except that I've never seen anyone else go heavy handed on another's character in a mag. Aren't they all in the habit of selling mags. None of the other women whose character Hilary has gone up against did this. Neither CK nor ED ever has.  I'm sorry but after thinking about it, i see it as unprofessional and in poor taste. Especially coming from CG whose skin is so thin that she battles folks on twitter and boards whosee remarks she doesn't like. 

 

I think saying, "Hilary has no boundaries to achieving her goal" would be a far more diplomatic response. 

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31 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

CG whose skin is so thin that she battles folks on twitter and boards whosee remarks she doesn't like

 

 

 

She really does this!! I guess getting her job back made her head swollen.

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CG speaking from Mariahs perspective by calling the CHARACTER of Hilary nasty, mean and whatever other name isn't unprofessional. Don't be silly. 

 

Shes not attacking the acteess. I don't really see the issue. 

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Had EB called Sharon crazy in an interview,  y'all would be up on arms. 

 

This speaks to a certain lack of respect. But carry on.

1 hour ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

She really does this!! I guess getting her job back made her head swollen.

 

She was twitter calling out handles off from boards. 

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EB DID call SC crazy in an interview. I don't remember anyone here saying anything about it. There were a few people on twitter tweeting him and saying "that wasn't nice" and stuff like that but I didn't think anything of it. Again, from Victors perspective and a lot of the viewers Sharon does look crazy. Lol. 

9 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Had EB called Sharon crazy in an interview,  y'all would be up on arms. 

 

This speaks to a certain lack of respect. But carry on.

 

She was twitter calling out handles off from boards. 

So, then, you agree that he's nuts?
I must say that I don't like the extremes of the story sometimes but, look, it makes for good drama. Victor does not think his decisions are crazy, nor do I when you examine them closely. He does what he does for his business—and business people are ruthless, as we know—the rest he does for his family, however ill-conceived his choices may be. He has a rather distorted view of family because he grew up in an orphanage. He's basically a loner who trusts no one. If there's any pathology in Victor Newman, that's where it lies. Yes, he may seem obsessed sometimes, like with Phyllis, but that was only because she was the only one who had the facts on Sharon. Now, you want to talk about a nutcase? Sharon is a realnutcase! Victor pales in comparison.

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Please stop making more than is necessary. It is an article in which a CHARACTER refers to their thoughts about another CHARACTER.   Kick back, relax and enjoy the holidays.  I'm sure MM isn't sitting around flipping out over the article.

 

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17 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Had EB called Sharon crazy in an interview,  y'all would be up on arms. 

 

This speaks to a certain lack of respect. But carry on.

 

She was twitter calling out handles off from boards. 

 

I think you're lovely, so please take this in the spirit in which it is meant:

 

I understand you're a Hevon stan and that, coupled with daytime's obvious issues regarding race, and the fact that you dislike Camryn Grimes as an actress, has sent you into a tailspin for the better part of a month now. I suppose it's the perfect storm. It rubs you the wrong way, and I get it.

 

There is undeniable racism in daytime, but none of that has had anything to do with this particular story, or most on this board. I don't know who you think "lacks respect" or worse, but nobody here would have much to say about actors commenting on characters. Not to mention, I just don't see what's wrong with an actress defending herself on Twitter, although I'd generally just stay out of that cesspool myself. Many actors/actresses do that.

 

Much of this thread has been about random stuff and while a lot of the discussion was wonderful, you are making way more out of the whole thing than is even there. IF and when the material onscreen corresponds with the accusations & insinuations, then we can all go to town with it! 

 

For now, can we, indeed, carry on?

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6 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

I think you're lovely, so please take this in the spirit in which it is meant:

 

I understand you're a Hevon stan and that, coupled with daytime's obvious issues regarding race, and the fact that you dislike Camryn Grimes as an actress, has sent you into a tailspin for the better part of a month now. I suppose it's the perfect storm. It rubs you the wrong way, and I get it.

 

There is undeniable racism in daytime, but none of that has had anything to do with this particular story, or most on this board. I don't know who you think "lacks respect" or worse, but nobody here would have much to say about actors commenting on characters. Not to mention, I just don't see what's wrong with an actress defending herself on Twitter, although I'd generally just stay out of that cesspool myself. Many actors/actresses do that.

 

Much of this thread has been about random stuff and while a lot of the discussion was wonderful, you are making way more out of the whole thing than is even there. IF and when the material onscreen corresponds with the accusations & insinuations, then we can all go to town with it! 

 

For now, can we, indeed, carry on?

 

I wanted to say something similar as well but this post really summed it up. I want to say that I really do love @ajsp35801's posts, but yes, this post by YRBB is very true. It's being made more than it is.

 

Anyway ... I'm actually excited to watch today's episode. Yes "boring old Y&R" ... :wub: It's so nice to have heart back on the show and someone who cares about the show writing for it. Will everything be spectacular? No. There's going to be clunkers but I see this transition period as re-establishing the canvas. And she's doing a great job at it.

Ugh. Devon needs to tell Lily to stay out of his marriage, whether she has the right intentions or not. This boy needs to grow a pair in all honesty.

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