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1 minute ago, Juliajms said:

OK, she can play mean teen half way decently, but she's not transitioning well into adult summer.  I'm sure she's do well playing the mean girl on some CE show.

 

I still say it's cause they want her as a heroine. I feel they should go full on spoiled bitch with Summer. See what HHK can do. Heroine!Summer surely ain't working. 

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8 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Cause they insisted on making Sumner a heroine. HHK plays a better mean girl. 

 

I agree with that! When King first came on she was breath of fresh air as opposed to the first Summer. I forget the actress name but she was dreadful. King shined in the bullying story and in her own paternity story with her relationship with Jack but somehow they botched her character up probably around the Austin story. 

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39 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

The Adam thing got crazy, especially when all of that stuff went down about MM. I lost a lot of respect for some of my twitter "friends" over that situation. I will never understand how some middle aged adults (who are old enough to know better) behaved online when all of that came out.

 

Crazy soaps stans will be crazy. I expected it. 

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1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

This!  I feel the same about the actress who plays Abby. I just can't get into Abby. She should be a key character since her mom is Ashley.

 

I agree.  Abby and Summer are both key next gen legacy characters.  They have to have actresses that have presence, charisma.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Crazy soaps stans will be crazy. I expected it. 

I guess I was surprised by who ended up being stans. There were people I thought I knew who I never thought would support someone who seemed guilty as sin.  I was a fan. I thought he played dickish Adam just right, but the second I heard what happened? No way.

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The only thing Abby has going for her is that she is Ashley's daughter but I've thinking about this: has Abby had one single good storyline? Because I can't think of a single one. Some might say her storyline with Carmine but I even think that was a dud. Adult Abby has been constantly stuck in bland or horrible storylines. Actually come to think of it, I liked her with Tyler but that was over before it even started. 

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Just now, Juliajms said:

I guess I was surprised by who ended up being stans. There were people I thought I knew who I never thought would support someone who seemed guilty as sin.  I was a fan. I thought he played dickish Adam just right, but the second I heard what happened? No way.

 

You can appreciate his portrayal and still admit he's wrong and deserved his firing. Muhney had a cult like following. Never understood it.  

4 minutes ago, mr. sweet said:

The only thing Abby has going for her is that she is Ashley's daughter but I've thinking about this: has Abby had one single good storyline? Because I can't think of a single one. Some might say her storyline with Carmine but I even think that was a dud. Adult Abby has been constantly stuck in bland or horrible storylines. Actually come to think of it, I liked her with Tyler but that was over before it even started. 

 

I agree. MO hasn't had much of anything except this Max story. I think it did wonders for abby's likability 

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God can Nick be written to be anymore of a caveman douche bag. I feel like I'm supposed to be on his side because of what Sharon did, but they write him as such an ass it's hard to feel bad for him.

 

And Victor has totally had a personality transplant.

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14 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Honestly, she's not even particularly good at that.  I've wanted to support her because of what happened with MM, but at this point, she's not getting any better. That role needs someone with presence and she just doesn't have it, imo.

I was told to stop using the phrase "She needs an acting coach" by a poster here about five months ago---yet here we are saying the same things about her. She' hasn't improved in over a year--not even her scenes with Luca were that good. 

She's the one to say when she'll go...thanks to slimy Michael Muhney. And yes, I know there are posters that don't agree...but, she's still here and she is still just as bad. She was a better actress when she started...now she is just "there".

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I think Hunter King is talented. I do think some other boards' criticism of her is colored by her being allegedly 'responsible' for Muhney's firing, which I think is disgusting. No one deserves what allegedly went down there. I don't think that's generally the case on this forum, and I do think she was overexposed by the last two regimes and pushed into the frontburner beyond her ability. I think she's good at certain things but cannot be expected to be the show's star heroine. I liked her and even I got tired of her.

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2 minutes ago, Vee said:

 I do think she was overexposed by the last two regimes and pushed into the frontburner beyond her ability.

 

I think she's....cannot be expected to be the show's star heroine. 

 

These 2 things are accurate imo. Why CP pushed that child as THE show's star is beyond me. Poor girl was asked to do way more than she's capable. She was just lost. I felt bad for her when she had so mich dialogue that she lost her voice. It was just too much. I don't think many actresses on the show could have pulled off what they tried to do with her without resentment from a large part of the audience. SC?...and...TEB?.......that's all I got. 

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34 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I disagree. I thought she was good in that bullying story. JP and ME were better though. 

I remember thinking she had potential back then too, but its true that she's just not improving. I feel like she's always so whiney and her defending Victor all the time didn't make me like her any better..

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3 minutes ago, ryanc said:

I remember thinking she had potential back then too, but its true that she's just not improving. I feel like she's always so whiney and her defending Victor all the time didn't make me like her any better..

 

HHK can't do anything about the writing for Summer. 

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17 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

God can Nick be written to be anymore of a caveman douche bag. I feel like I'm supposed to be on his side because of what Sharon did, but they write him as such an ass it's hard to feel bad for him.

 

And Victor has totally had a personality transplant.

JM could soften up what's written, but he tends to play Nick as aggressive. It's just his go to persona in the role. All I can say is if someone had kept my child from me, I'd be in no hurry to change a custody agreement to give them more time with my other child.  From where I'm sitting it doesn't even make sense that Dylan is pushing Sharon to ask for it.  Even to the point of going to court? It's just nuts. If I were Nick I would not give one inch unless Faith asked me to directly.

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1 minute ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

HHK can't do anything about the writing for Summer. 

Well the writing mixed with her sh*tty acting skills. There. 

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