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AMC: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 Discussion Thread


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I don't hear Ryan and JY sounding the same at all. Strange! I like Zach and Lea and think they are sexy together. She exudes sex appeal. When Debbi dons the curly hair I swoonwub.png

Aj's reaction to JR was natural considering what he knows plus I assume there are those who have bad-mouthed JR to him. JR was not totally a bad dad, though. He made plenty of mistakes but overall he wasn't so bad(for a soap dad).

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Opal meeting Evelyn and Bramwell Hall, damn, there goes any chance that Evelyn is really Kelly. Super dissapointed, I was really hoping for that twist. It would have given Brooke a friend/family member on canvas.

On that note, Julia is looking great in these epsiodes. Kudos to the costumer for giving he really good looking high-end clothese this go around. Brooke at the end of ABC was wearing a lot of middle-america ready to wear knits. These glamourous dresses are very becoming and more in character for Brooke. Julia Barr is still such a beautiful woman.



I am not loving the fact that I have not see Dr. Joe or Adam in a while. Neither has had substantive scenes. I am checking into this thing for those guys, not Pete/Celia.

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Outside of JennyGregJessieAngie you mentioned I found nothing of the others compelling. Especially the invasion of the Santos clan. Thank you God Bra and her family are gone.

I liked Bianca because she was an old soul. Never had any use for either Laura 2.0. What an insult to Brooke's original beloved daughter. Never thought of Leo as a 'teen' character.

For me the downfall, was the lack of AMC in favor of every ABC show being some variation of who Frons's favorites were. Show me the adult characters I've watched for years with character driven stories and I wouldn't even notice teens weren't onscreen.

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I miss the wavy hair she was wearing before she went blind on ABC. That was my favourite look. Then she went blind, and they stopped doing Debbi's hair. As if now that she was so blind, she was really going to let herself go.

Not loving Ms. Lea Marquez either. So far my list of "dump" characters are: Lea, Celia, Jane.

What the hell is Jesse screaming about a Federal case for in Jane's Addiction? Shouldn't he be escorting Lea somewhere private? Who knows who is listening-in. Who knows who may tip off the traffickers?

This smells like a set limitation issue.

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The overall sound of the show is really lacking. The mircophones are picking-up an echo. The music cues are really poor and do not add much the the scene. The hospital scene between JR/AJ should have been better scored. It could have been a really break-out, memorable moment, with some tighter shots, and dramatic cues. The writing was there. everything else was not.

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I liked Hayley that was it. Couldn't stomach any of Bra's clan and Noah was a bore to me.

We 'have' adults but to me - right now - they're in name only. I see them in the opening but the actual show - not so much. I'm going to give it time because it's kind of a knee jerk reaction from years of ABC Frons trauma. But, especially being a Brooke fan, where a 30 yr vet was either marginalized or written OOC because the HW hated Julia or she was just off the show one day with nary a word in the story I get very anxious when I see her back and having scenes where all she does is ask how Celia's (a character I don't have any real caring for yet) dates are going. I'm flashing back to ABC with that garbage. That one day where Brooke's only scene was to visit Celia for 10 seconds to hear how 'happy' Celia?? Let's just say wasn't a happy camper.

I'm interested in interesting characters. Characters I get to know and aren't predesignated as the 'stars' or 'the couple' so whether they're 20 something or not doesn't really matter.

Teens lack life experience. They're usually there because someone in charge thinks that's the ticket to get new viewers - sorry, but wrong. And they're usually played by actors with little experience. And all of that breeds resentment in me when I know there's very little airtime to be shared and a large portion is being taken up by them instead of characters I've loved and watched played by stellar actors for 30 plus yrs.

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I'm guessing Jane may be a future love interest for Bianca so I'm okay with her. Celia? Well, I did get a little excited today with the tease that Evelyn might send her offscreen for months in Europe. Lea? I could do without her. I don't think Zach needs a love interest as they don't seem to have airtime to give to established couples' romances like Brooke and Adam. And isn't Kendall making an appearance soon?

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I completely agree with this- I started watching in late 1993 at the height of SMG Kendall's reign of terror and she was what kept my 2nd grade self hooked. Of course Erica was part of that toot. Loved early 20s characters like Noah/Julia & Hayley, liked Kelsey/Kevin and hardcore shipped Leo/Greenlee. They had their legacy characters for the next few younger sets in Tim, Amanda, Jamie, JR, Edmunds & Maria's kids etc and somehow all of that was bungled horribly. I pretty much tuned out in college around 2006 and one of the main reasons was that I couldn't stand the younger characters (and I hated how the vets were used but that's another story). The show name lends itself to the idea that their should always be an up and coming generation mixing it up with each other and the vets. I applaud what these writers are trying to do- its not perfect yet but I think its the closest thing to classic AMC that we've had in a very long time.

That said, we need a day off from AJ & Miranda- they are now just as overexposed as Pelia and the OLTL younger set but getting a lot less hate for it. Also, we need to start expressing out hatred of the guitar riff- PP seems open to fan input and that needs to go.

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The show is still missing the HUGE 30 Something actors to fill in the age demographic gap, a very critical gap for advertisers. There are things missing in the show but with Colby, Erica (Susan meeting with PP this month), Dimitri and others needed to come back to fill in the gaps for the age demos. It does not matter what the writers are trying to do, if they can't capture certain age demos for advertisers, then writing is going to have to change. What worked for Classic AMC is not going to make it in today's 2013 market for advertisers in key age demos. That is the reality of programming these days. If PP cannot attract certain age demos, the show will find itself in trouble with advertisers. and that concerns me.

The show is still missing the HUGE 30 Something actors to fill in the age demographic gap, a very critical gap for advertisers. There are things missing in the show but with Colby, Erica (Susan meeting with PP this month), Dimitri and others needed to come back to fill in the gaps for the age demos. It does not matter what the writers are trying to do, if they can't capture certain age demos for advertisers, then writing is going to have to change. What worked for Classic AMC is not going to make it in today's 2013 market for advertisers in key age demos. That is the reality of programming these days. If PP cannot attract certain age demos, the show will find itself in trouble with advertisers. and that concerns me.

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But the fact remains that the key age demo for advertisers is 18-49 set.

Vincent Irizarry is now 53 years old and showing some graying of hair. His age is over the key age demo for advertisers. Darnell and Debbi are well into their 50's now with Darnell being 58 years old and Debbi being 56 years old (57 in September) so the older core cast is already over the age demo for advertisers.

There came time to fast age AJ, Miranda and maybe a change in direction of the older characters will have to become necessary more in a supporting role for the teen/20 set as was done in Classic AMC.

We need to give the show time and opportunity to fix things. But the age demo for advertisers is crucial to the shows success and longevity.

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