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On 8/22/2021 at 8:19 PM, Pine Charles said:

Is it true Susan Lucci and her daughter, Liza Huber, are no longer on speaking terms??

If true, I do wonder the genesis of their “rift”...??

Sad (if true). 

I've been wondering about that too. 

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On 8/11/2021 at 12:35 PM, DemetriKane said:

@FrenchBug82 beautifully said. I will still switch babe/Krystal out for Amanda/Janet in this storyline. All Legacy characters carrying this show and becoming the lead characters is what I wanted.

Stause wouldn't have been able to produce. That was always the thing that held Amanda back as a character. 

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4 minutes ago, Skin said:

Stause wouldn't have been able to produce. That was always the thing that held Amanda back as a character. 

I also think that it wouldn't have quite fitted Janet even admitting she had lost her mind again.
She suffered so from having to deny she was Amanda's mother for so long... I think she would have been too sensitive to the cruelty of separating a child from her mother in that way.
At least in a universe with good consistent writing.

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Eileen Letchworth  (Margo Flax) had her facelift Wed Aug 7 1974 and was back onscreen the following Tuesday,as Margo had her bandages removed on camera. In reality they were removed the day before.

Eileen had asked for time off for the procedure and Agnes Nixon decided to write it in for the story and asked Eileen to delay having it done until it fitted better into the plot.

Eileen had already had the bags under her eyes removed 7 years previously.

Margo had her facelift trying to keep a younger man but Eileen was happily married at the time. She was 52 in 1974.

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4 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I also think that it wouldn't have quite fitted Janet even admitting she had lost her mind again. She suffered so from having to deny she was Amanda's mother for so long... I think she would have been too sensitive to the cruelty of separating a child from her mother in that way. At least in a universe with good consistent writing.

I agree with this as well, I was trying to play the story in my mind and I got to the point where Kate Collin's could have performed it, but I think it would have strained the audiences credulity to have Janet break in this way, and not have anyone notice for the better part of 8-9 months. The reason Janet worked in 2005, was because she was basically on there for a few months to spice up the sweep period, and even then she was sort of used sparingly like a sort of thriller villain. Having her on the canvas for an extended amount of time, the way Krystal was, basically necessitates a psychotic break for a prolonged period. It's basically the Nikki Smith/Viki story from the early 2000's on One Life To Live, but a bit worse.

Not going to lie this makes me sort of rethink the value of the Carey's honestly. I know a lot of people hated them, but I think they accomplished a lot of (for the lack of a better term) functional writing needs that wouldn't have been possible without them. For all the grief they get, I definitely do think they were able to rebalance the show towards the Martins and Chandlers after we essentially got the Kane show all through 2003. As good as 2003 was, that's not a sustainable or balanced show. The Martin/Chandler group needed essentially a Liza/Mia combo to bring them back to focus in some way.

Also Babe assisted in successfully transitioning JR and Jaime into adulthood, which is something that was sort of a gamble at the time as both teen love interests Joni and Laurie weren't able to do that for either character. This solidified a next generation of Chandler's and Martin's and made the potential for future leading men viable. No mean feat when both MEK and DC were aging. Chucking Amanda in there and having that not work, would have had the impact of potentially creating 3 lame duck legacy characters in a row. It made sense for the writers to save her for later.  

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1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

Eileen Letchworth  (Margo Flax) had her facelift Wed Aug 7 1974 and was back onscreen the following Tuesday,as Margo had her bandages removed on camera. In reality they were removed the day before.

Eileen had asked for time off for the procedure and Agnes Nixon decided to write it in for the story and asked Eileen to delay having it done until it fitted better into the plot.

Eileen had already had the bags under her eyes removed 7 years previously.

Margo had her facelift trying to keep a younger man but Eileen was happily married at the time. She was 52 in 1974.

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Margo was a HOT MESS!! 
 

(Btw, Carol Burnett has stated that, when she first started watching All My Children, Margo was her favorite character)

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Guys you don't have to play the storyline the same way McTavish wrote it. That's the beauty in using Legacy characters, it SHOULD force you to write from character and with more care to not ruin them. I believe if taking more time to build towards the story and setting the stage, Amanda questioning/struggling with if she's just like her mother, pitting Bianca/Amanda as rivals this could have worked and gave them years a story. I would have made Amanda jealous/resentful of Binks life and relationship with her mother from the jump. I would have killed little A, after witnessing her baby takes his last breathe, Amanda hides the truth out of desperation or she actually does lose it a bit and becomes Drawn to Miranda. Janet comes in later, finds out the truth and is conflicted about exposing her own daughter. You can show Janet's growth by her being the whistle blower and that causes more friction for she and Amanda. It's many ways this could have been done. 

 

 

@Skin  I agree with a lot of what you said. If Alexia was cast as Amanda she still could have accomplished all that though. and Jamie is still a lame duck in my eyes. 

 

@FrenchBug82 Okay, for the sake of Janet's character i will go along with you, until i thought about her killing Porkchop. 

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On 8/28/2021 at 1:11 PM, ghfan89 said:

I don't know if this was posted, but Yaya Decosta and Debbi Morgan reunite on a new FOX series. She plays her aunt on this show.

 

yes i posted about it. I'm excited to watch it.

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