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1 hour ago, Pine Charles said:

Carol and Rosie talk AMC @ 4:35.

 

 

 

HELLO! CAROL BURNETT ON PINE VALLEY!  LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN! Kelly and Mark are you reading this?

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7 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

But it is my understand she was really pissed they didn't ask her first when they brought Opal back and went straight to recast instead. That was long after of course but the story of why they did that if she was open to returning is an open question.

Opal Came back Fall 1989, Lyman was still filming the final season of Mama's Family where Naomi was Pregnant . I dunno how she could have done both. unless she was miffed AMC didnt wait to bring Opal home til Lyman was done filming Mama's Family....

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4 minutes ago, John said:

Opal Came back Fall 1989, Lyman was still filming the final season of Mama's Family where Naomi was Pregnant . I dunno how she could have done both. unless she was miffed AMC didnt wait to bring Opal home til Lyman was done filming Mama's Family....

From the Lyman wiki (which may or may not be a trustworthy source) In an appearance on Vicki Lawrence's talk show Vicki!, Lyman noted that she continued to perform on All My Children concurrently with the beginning of Mama's Family's production, flying back and forth each week between New York City and Los Angeles. While the commute was brutal, she remembered it fondly, referring to that stage of her career as "All My Paychecks"

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1 minute ago, j swift said:

From the Lyman wiki (which may or may not be a trustworthy source) In an appearance on Vicki Lawrence's talk show Vicki!, Lyman noted that she continued to perform on All My Children concurrently with the beginning of Mama's Family's production, flying back and forth each week between New York City and Los Angeles. While the commute was brutal, she remembered it fondly, referring to that stage of her career as "All My Paychecks"

Oh she said that. Maybe ABC didnt wanna deal with her commuting again???

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Was Lyman interested in returning to AMC at that point?

I would imagine with Mama's Family ending she would have been hoping to parlay that into some more primetime work rather than heading back to NY  and AMC.

She did agree to Generations but it was in LA, short term and came with some contract perks I recall eg the chance to direct, which she wanted to pursue.

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2 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Was Lyman interested in returning to AMC at that point?

As I said earlier, she was pissed she wasn't *asked* but that doesn't mean she wanted to do it. I don't think she would have - and certainly not for the long-term tenure that Jill Larson ended up doing.

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12 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

It was an unpopular storyline - even with James Mitchell, I believe. The most interesting part for me was the Opal/Palmer split. I never really believed he would have stayed with her as long as he did, and the fallout (along with the reveal of her son Adrian) was good drama. 

It didn't make much sense, so I am not surprised. I do know HamiltonBernique has the climax of the Lars Bogard story up. It was during that yacht party where they were celebrating Jenny and Tony's engagement and he fell overboard.

 

Edit: Found it, Lars goes overboard after a fight with Palmer, falls in the water with an American flag toward the end of the video

 

 

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Reading the contemporary articles, I'm also intrigued by the implication that ABC didn't try hard enough when it came to hanging onto Dorothy. I guess they figured they didn't need that many crossover daytime actors.

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49 minutes ago, ghfan89 said:

Lars goes overboard after a fight with Palmer, falls in the water with an American flag toward the end of the video

That was just as silly as the critics at the time complained about.  Palmer's motivation in that plot makes no sense.  I think Daisy was using Lars as a romantic rival, but it hardly warranted Palmer going to South America with Erica to investigate on his own (given that Palmer had never previously been a man of adventure).

 

Why would he host an engagement party for Jenny and Tony?  Why wasn't Nina invited?  What's up with the stunt doubles who were two feet taller than the actors?  What was Lars's plan if he won the fight, there are a dozen other people on board (mostly younger and more virile that Palmer), would he take everyone hostage and try to navigate that small yacht all the way back to South America?  And who directed Jack Betts to use that bizarre facial expression when he fell off the boat? 

 

Given all that, it is hard to believe that anyone allowed AMC to revisit the subject of Nazi art years later, only this time Palmer was dealing in contraband.  If Courtland Electronics needed some extra cash they should have sold the yacht.

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Question: Did Mark Dalton and Silver Kane ever live in Pine Valley at the same time?  Were they half-siblings as well, because I think Goldie was not Mark's mother?

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21 minutes ago, j swift said:

Question: Did Mark Dalton and Silver Kane ever live in Pine Valley at the same time?  Were they half-siblings as well, because I think Goldie was not Mark's mother?

Yes, Mark was on the show through at least December 1988. The 'real' Silver came on the show as Noelle in 1987, then died May of 1988. So Mark was actually on the show before, during and after Silver.

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This yacht business was the same time as the infamous story of an actor supposedly falling off the yacht due to being high on coke, right? I guess that would help explain the writing...

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Can anyone illuminate for me a bit the circumstances surrounding Agnes' (according to Wikipedia) return to the HW slot in late '89? What did that entail? I always assumed she'd done the Cindy/AIDS and Laura hit and run stories, but I guess that's not the case. I didn't realize she'd been (officially, anyway) gone as long as she had, and where her hand guided things or didn't. My kingdom for @EricMontreal22's return...

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34 minutes ago, Vee said:

Can anyone illuminate for me a bit the circumstances surrounding Agnes' (according to Wikipedia) return to the HW slot in late '89? What did that entail? I always assumed she'd done the Cindy/AIDS and Laura hit and run stories, but I guess that's not the case. I didn't realize she'd been (officially, anyway) gone as long as she had, and where her hand guided things or didn't. My kingdom for @EricMontreal22's return...

 

I would guess one of the main examples would be the Lainie/David Rampal story, as she tried to bring in a young love story (to diminishing returns) with each new stint as HW.

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Oof, I had no idea she did that and I still barely understand who those people are.

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