Members ellabelle Posted March 26, 2012 Members Share Posted March 26, 2012 There's a scene from late 2000 or early 2001 or so between Erica and Dimitri... she's in David and Alex's office to yell at David, and Dimitri comes in to get Alex's medical bag so Alex can secretly treat Anna at Wildwind. Dimitri encourages Erica to stay away from David but also wants Erica to keep her distance from Wildwind but won't tell her why. For most of the scene, Michael Nader is overly peppy and smiling, far more so than he normally did as Dimitri. I remembered watching it when it aired and wondering what was up with Nader because it seemed so different. I watched it again recently and thought "the man is high as a kite." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ellabelle Posted March 26, 2012 Members Share Posted March 26, 2012 LOL. That pic is awesome! You know, I have to say that every once in a while AMC did a decent job of remembering its own history. Like Erica and sharp objects: we saw her in 1985 with a pocketknife promising herself that she'd fight Adam rather than let him rape her, she stabbed Dimitri with a letter opener, she stabbed Zach with a knife, and she stabbed David with a knife as well. As soon as Erica tried to choke David in that scene at ConFusion, I shook my head and thought "Jack needs to get her out of there before she finds a sharp object." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted March 26, 2012 Members Share Posted March 26, 2012 Thanks Jonatin[/Tony Micelli]! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMCHistory Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 Just because... No argument, not only were Esta and Cam so gorgeous together, their onscreen love story was truly love in the afternoon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 I hated Ryan and Gillian. I preferred him with Greenlee and she with Jake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 I liked them but that was when she was allowed an edge. I hated the decision to "punish" Gillian, first with having sex with David for the bail money, then the relationship with Jake which was mostly about her being a bad person and needing to be taught otherwise. It worked with Greenlee/Jake, but Gillian was more fragile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 I was watching regularly at the time and I also preferred Gillian with her edge. She was beyond a saccharine heroine once she died. It was disappointing. I really liked her and the character with Ryan (when he too was allowed an edge). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 I think thats why I preferred Greenlee. I enjoyed her being bitchy and selfish and having the qualties Gillian used to have. Gillian was much better when she was a vixen but she became way too much of a goody goody, devoid of her spark and interesting characteristics. She was very boring by the time she died 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) On paper Greenlee should have been more of a fun yet sympathetic bitch (as I think Gillian was early on), but Budig was so incredibly dead emotionally that it just made her pity parties fall flat. Esta always put more heart into her role, even though it sucked for years before she was killed off. Edited March 28, 2012 by CarlD2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 I like Rebecca Budig but I never ever felt Greenlee was necessary. I always felt Gillian should have been the one to have lasted so long. I don't know why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ghfan89 Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 I agree with this, actually. I thought Gillian had a lot of potential early on, but they changed her character too much after her first year. Ditto about Budig, she came across as too brittle to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ellabelle Posted March 28, 2012 Members Share Posted March 28, 2012 AMC has a long and obnoxious history of defanging their bitches. Brooke, Natalie, Gillian, Kendall, Bianca, Greenlee... how Erica managed to last that long on that show and still maintain her self-centered bitchiness is beyond me. Thank goodness for it too, because I always adored her for it. Aside from Erica, it was almost as if someone decreed that all bitchy female characters must be made fragile, nice, dependent on a man, or otherwise unbitchy after a set period of time. And yes, I would have liked to see Gillian stick around much longer. I thought she was a great character, and I HATED that she was killed off to save whiny Laura English. What a waste. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ghfan89 Posted March 29, 2012 Members Share Posted March 29, 2012 I didn't mind the redemption of Brooke and Natalie through the 80's. It wasn't until the 90's where Janet showed up that I thought Natalie lost her spice. Brooke started to become too much of a victim around the time of the Tad/Brooke stuff and then PIerce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMCHistory Posted March 29, 2012 Members Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) Isn't this a fun "caption this" photo: For as straight-laced as old man PC was, he sure knew how to picka kooky bride. Edited March 29, 2012 by AMCHistory 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted March 29, 2012 Members Share Posted March 29, 2012 Even worse, many vixens on AMC were "defanged" after being raped or assaulted in some way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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