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12 minutes ago, prefab1 said:

Thanks so much for these detailed and hilarious recaps of the late 1970s plotlines, beebs! It's interesting reading these summaries, although my main response is "Who ARE all these people?" I'm fascinated by the way that current Days frequently references its 1980s supercouple era and its 1990s super-campy era, but almost never references the late 1970s, not even in conjunction with things that happened to Marlena or Maggie back then. 

I, quite honestly, spent a lot of time on Google, @JAS0N47's site, and SoapCentral trying to piece together who a lot of these people were, and image searching the actors' names (when I could find them) to put faces to names so I could have sense into a lot of this. It's hard when there are only a handful of episodes that have been made available over the last few years, and even moreso when DAYS has made it a habit to forget the show was even on before 1983. The only way they reference the 70s at ALL now is to talk about how Addie died, and that Maggie drinks. Pretty astounding considering it was literally only for about three months in 1978.

 

If you need any holes filled, or need information on who's who, just ask. If I can't answer you, there are a number of folks on here who can fill you in. Don't be afraid to ask, and I HIGHLY recommend spending time on Jason47's page. It's an absolute gold mine for DAYS history. 

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18 hours ago, prefab1 said:

Thanks so much for these detailed and hilarious recaps of the late 1970s plotlines, beebs! It's interesting reading these summaries, although my main response is "Who ARE all these people?" I'm fascinated by the way that current Days frequently references its 1980s supercouple era and its 1990s super-campy era, but almost never references the late 1970s, not even in conjunction with things that happened to Marlena or Maggie back then. 

 

Wait until we hit Laemmle.

 

I gotta admit, @beebs, this month was a little boring because the motivations made sense. There was nothing really out there, except Linda, and even that has some logic to it.

 

On 11/6/2020 at 8:57 AM, te. said:

 

I liked her on both Peyton Place and Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, but I was wondering more about her daytime stints since her time on DAYS seem mostly like a train wreck.

 

There are some old threads on this board that talk about her time on Love of Life. Her stint seems to be liked. Love of Life was not going to make it at that point, no matter who had the reins, though.

 

I think this is one its (and her) last episodes.

 

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"DAYS" ANNIVERSARY WEEK

 

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32nd Anniversary, 1997. TOP ROW: Lisa Williams (Lisa), Ivan G'Vera (Ivan),
Marie-Alise Recasner (Lynn), Braden Matthews (Travis). 2ND ROW: Steve Wilder
(Jack), Roark Critchlow (Mike), Renee Jones (Lexie), James Reynolds (Abe), Tanya
Boyd (Celeste), Jensen Ackles (Eric), Bryan Dattilo (Lucas). 3RD ROW: Stephanie
Cameron (Jennifer), Jaime Lyn Bauer (Laura), Frank Parker (Shawn), Peggy McCay
(Caroline), Josh Taylor (Roman), Alison Sweeney (Sami), Christie Clark (Carrie),
Austin Peck (Austin), Lauren Koslow (Kate), Krista Allen (Billie), Patsy Pease
(Kimberly). FRONT ROW: Eileen Davidson (Kristen/Susan), Louise Sorel (Vivian),
Paige & Ryanne Kettner (Abigail), Joseph Mascolo (Stefano), Deidre Hall
(Marlena), Drake Hogestyn (John), Frances Reid (Alice), John Clarke (Mickey),
Suzanne Rogers (Maggie), Peter Reckell (Bo), Kristian Alfonso (Hope), Collin
O'Donnell (Shawn-Douglas).
 
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33rd Anniversary, 1998. TOP ROW: Katherine Ellis (Taylor), Arianne Zuker (Nicole),
Jensen Ackles (Eric), Lisa Linde (Ali), Roark Critchlow (Mike), Patrika Darbo
(Nancy), Kevin Spirtas (Craig), Patsy Pease (Kimberly), Ivan G'Vera (Ivan),
Jaime Lyn Bauer (Laura), Millicent Martin (Lili). 2ND ROW: Tanya Boyd (Celeste),
James Reynolds (Abe), Renee Jones (Lexie), Austin Peck (Austin), Christie Clark
(Carrie), Alison Sweeney (Sami), Bryan Dattilo (Lucas), Peggy McCay (Caroline),
Frank Parker (Shawn), Julianne Morris (Greta), Krista Allen (Billie). FRONT ROW:
Lauren Koslow (Kate), Josh Taylor (Roman), Shawn & Taylor Carpenter (Will),
Louise Sorel (Vivian), Joseph Mascolo (Stefano), Deidre Hall (Marlena), Drake
Hogestyn (John), Frances Reid (Alice), John Clarke (Mickey), Suzanne Rogers
(Maggie), Peter Reckell (Bo), Kristian Alfonso (Hope), Collin O'Donnell
(Shawn-Douglas).
 
 
 
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34th Anniversary, 1999. TOP ROW: Matthew Mahaney (Kurt), Matt Cedeno (Brandon),
Patrika Darbo (Nancy), Kevin Spirtas (Craig), Farah Fath (Mimi), Brandon Tyler
(Philip), Kirsten Storms (Belle), Jason Cook (Shawn), Millicent Martin (Lili),
Victor Webster (Nicholas), Will Utay (Rolf). 2ND ROW: Bill Hayes (Doug), Susan
Seaforth Hayes (Julie), James Reynolds (Abe), Renee Jones (Lexie), Bryan Dattilo
(Lucas), Arianne Zuker (Nicole), Jensen Ackles (Eric), Julianne Morris (Greta),
Frank Parker (Grandpa Shawn), Peggy McCay (Caroline), John Aniston (Victor).
FRONT ROW: Joseph Mascolo (Stefano), Kristian Alfonso (Hope), Peter Reckell
(Bo), Suzanne Rogers (Maggie), John Clarke (Mickey), Frances Reid (Alice), Drake
Hogestyn (John), Deidre Hall (Marlena), Josh Taylor (Roman), Alison Sweeney
(Sami), Shawn & Taylor Carpenter (Will), Austin Peck (Austin), Lauren Koslow
(Kate).
 
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35th Anniversary, 2000. TOP ROW: Kyle Lowder (Brady Black),
Nadia Bjorlin (Chloe Lane), Jay Johnson (Philip Kiriakis), Kirsten Storms (Belle
Black), Jason Cook (Shawn Brady), Farah Fath (Mimi Lockhart), Aaron Van Wagner
(Jason Welles), Heather Olson (Jan Spears). 2ND ROW: Millicent Martin (Lili
Faversham), Steve Blackwood (Bart), Tanya Boyd (Celeste Perrault), Kevin Spirtas
(Craig Wesley), Patrika Darbo (Nancy Wesley), Matt Cedeno (Brandon Walker),
Valerie Wildman (Fay Walker), Will Utay (Wilhelm Rolf), Andrea Hall-Gengler
(Hattie Adams). 3RD ROW: Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie Williams), Bill Hayes (Doug
Williams), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer Horton), Renee Jones (Lexie Carver), James
Reynolds (Abe Carver), Arianne Zuker (Nicole Walker), Bryan Dattilo (Lucas
Roberts), Lauren Koslow (Kate Roberts), John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis), Peggy
McCay (Caroline Brady), Frank Parker (Grandpa Shawn Brady). BOTTOM ROW: Joseph
Mascolo (Stefano DiMera), Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady), Peter Reckell (Bo
Brady), Suzanne Rogers (Maggie Horton), John Clarke (Mickey Horton), Frances
Reid (Alice Horton), Drake Hogestyn (John Black), Deidre Hall (Marlena Evans),
Josh Taylor (Roman Brady), Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady), Austin Peck (Austin
Reed), Taylor Carpenter (Will Roberts), Julianne Morris (Greta VonAmberg).
 
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36th Anniversary, 2001. TOP ROW: Will Utay (Rolf), Jennifer
Gee (Susan), Robert Benvenisti (Kevin), Heather Olson (Jan), Aaron Van Wagner
(Jason), Tanya Boyd (Celeste), Paul Logan (Glen), Tamara Clatterbuck (Barb),
Steve Blackwood (Bart). 2ND ROW: Kevin Spirtas (Craig), Patrika Darbo (Nancy),
Jason Cook (Shawn), Kirsten Storms (Belle), Jay Johnson (Philip), Nadia Bjorlin
(Chloe), Kyle Lowder (Brady), Farah Fath (Mimi), Justin Melvey (Colin), Valerie
Wildman (Fay). 3RD ROW: Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie), Bill Hayes (Doug), Arianne
Zuker (Nicole), Matt Cedeno (Brandon), Alison Sweeney (Sami), Austin Peck
(Austin), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer), Matthew Ashford (Jack), Julianne Morris
(Greta), Frank Parker (Grandpa Shawn), Peggy McCay (Caroline). BOTTOM ROW: Renee
Jones (Lexie), James Reynolds (Abe), Kristian Alfonso (Hope), Peter Reckell
(Bo), Megan Corletto (Abigail), Suzanne Rogers (Maggie), John Clarke (Mickey),
Frances Reid (Alice), Drake Hogestyn (John), Deidre Hall (Marlena), Shawn &
Taylor Carpenter (Will), Josh Taylor (Roman), Lauren Koslow (Kate), John Aniston
(Victor).
 
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40th Anniversary, 2005. KNEELING: Ken Corday (executive
producer), Kyle Brandt (Philip Kiriakis), Farah Fath (Mimi Lockhart), Peter
Reckell (Bo Brady), Christie Clark (Carrie Brady), Judi Evans (Bonnie Lockhart),
Wayne Northrop (Alex North). STANDING (front row): Bill Hayes (Doug Williams),
Susan Seaforth Hayes (Julie Williams), Frances Reid (Alice Horton), Days 40th
cake, Alison Sweeney (Sami Brady), Renee Jones (Lexie Carver), Ashley Benson
(Abigail Deveraux), Rachel Melvin (Chelsea Benson), Josh Taylor (Roman Brady).
STANDING (middle row): Bryan Dattilo (Lucas Roberts), John Ingle (Mickey
Horton), Lauren Koslow (Kate Roberts), Darin Brooks (Max Brady), Suzanne Rogers
(Maggie Horton), Billy Warlock (Frankie Brady), Melissa Reeves (Jennifer Horton
Deveraux), Kristian Alfonso (Hope Williams Brady), Arianne Zuker (Nicole
Walker), Julie Pinson (Billie Reed), Matthew Ashford (Jack Deveraux), Jason Cook
(Shawn Brady), Steve Blackwood (Bart Biederbicke). STANDING (back row): Austin
Peck (Austin Reed), John Aniston (Victor Kiriakis), Brody Hutzler (Patrick

Lockhart), Rhasaan Orange (Tek Kramer), Drake Hogestyn (John Black).

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5 hours ago, Titus Andronicus said:

 

 

Wait until we hit Laemmle.

 

I gotta admit, @beebs, this month was a little boring because the motivations made sense. There was nothing really out there, except Linda, and even that has some logic to it.

 

 

There are some old threads on this board that talk about her time on Love of Life. Her stint seems to be liked. Love of Life was not going to make it at that point, no matter who had the reins, though.

 

Laemmle will be bonkers, from what I remember reading before. I do feel like the show might have needed to shift gears, admittedly, but that was way too much change way too fast. It's a wonder DAYS survived it.

 

Ann Marcus was liked on LOL, but I do wonder if she kept the pacing she had at DAYS. I'm sure more conservative audience at CBS would not have taken as kindly to Marcus' LOL if the pacing were anything like it was at DAYS. But, then again, would it even matter, considering there were only about 5 people left watching by the end.

 

LOL (the other way) @Titus Andronicus, I figured you'd enjoy seeing some semblance of logic after months and months of stupidity, tbh! I'm sure the wheels will fall off soon enough. Let's see.

 

ONTO APRIL '79:

 

David begins the month by becoming Sucker of the Month. Yes, his anger at Trish subsides slightly, since she's always hanging around anyway, now that they're confirmed neighbours. He finally gives in and lets Trish see Scotty, but only when David is also present. He still intends to divorce Trish, but Trish lays a guilt trip on him, claiming that Scotty will be somehow irreparably damaged by the knowledge that his parents couldn't make their reluctant shotgun marriage work. She also lurks about, cooking and cleaning for him like a good little domestic, hoping to get on David's good side. Stephanie's getting more than a little annoyed by The Happy Homemaker, and demands David get a move on with the divorce, but David hems and haws, hoping to find something that will definitively tip the scales in his favour in a custody case.

 

David's starting to get jealous now, as newly-single Chris has started bringing Trish home from her singing gig at Doug's Place (what a gentleman). Chris admits he's interested in her...as a friend (whatever that means).

 

David ends the month developing walking pneumonia, and Trish steps up her Happy Homemaker game tenfold. With Stephanie still getting over her burns, Trish has an easy way in to help David and Scotty without (much) pushback from Ol' Bandage Hands.

 

Speaking of Stephanie, Bob rewards her for her (alleged) loyalty by gifting her stocks in Anderson. This will go down like the Hindenburg with the rest of the family.

 

Finally fed up of Trish's sucking up to David, Stephanie asks how the divorce is coming along. When David continues to hem and haa, Stephanie dumps him, telling him she has "bigger fish to fry".

 

I've never heard anyone refer to their hands in this way, but go off, sis.

 

 

 

 

Laura starts the month by once again behaving out of character, possibly because of her anxiety over her mother's condition. She now decides to demote Marlena and hire a new psychiatrist! DAMN! Laura hires Dr. Jordan Barr (played by George McDaniel). Laura tells Marlena that if she doesn't step her game up, Laura will fire her.

 

Laura's having some wild nightmares as well, where her mother is in the institution, begging Laura to come see her, to release her. Then threatening that Laura will be sorry she forgot her mother when she was alive. Laura wakes up, shivering and screaming.

 

Shortly thereafter, she gets a call from her mother's doctor. Her mother has committed suicide, and was agitated, calling for Laura to come see her. Laura is heartbroken and extremely guilty for seemingly failing her mother. She blames herself for her mother's death, but keeps all these feelings inside, remaining intensely stoic to all outward appearances. She then asks Mickey and Mike, but not Bill, to accompany her to Chicago for the funeral. 

 

Back at UH, Laura asks Marlena to take a smaller office, as she's giving Marlena's office to Jordan Barr. As she does this, she sees an apparition of her mother standing behind Marlena, telling her that Marlena is not her friend and not to trust her. Marlena, meanwhile, is so livid about being mistreated by Laura, she considers resigning.

 

 

Lanna Saunders' Marie arrives. She goes to visit Laura to offer her support with her mother's death. Laura is composed and even somewhat icy with Marie, insisting she doesn't need any more solace or concern.

 

After debating whether or not to resign, Marlena finally makes her choice, and goes to break the news to Laura, who insists Marlena CAN'T leave her! Suddenly becoming all sweetness and light, Laura offers Marlena her old office back, buys her a fern (???!) and takes her out to lunch! Then offers her a pay raise!!!

 

Marlena is...confused.

 

Apparently, so is Laura. Once Jordan arrives for his first shift, the vision of Laura's mother appears again and goads her into thinking Jordan and Marlena are out to take Laura's job. She later harasses Kate, insisting out of nowhere she stay away from Bill. Kate...is, and tells Laura this. Laura doesn't believe her, and insists that Kate and Bill are the hot gossip topic of the hospital and that she's making a fool of herself.

 

Kate, not wishing to be the subject of gossip, responds by going to Tom and quitting her job. When pressed, she doesn't give a reason, other than to tell Tom that, in the words of Aretha Franklin, there isn't, there wasn't, and there ain't never gonna be anything between her and Bill Horton. Tom has literally no idea what the hell is going on.

 

 

 

 

Neil convinces Amanda to go to dinner with him at Doug's Place. After falling for his trickery once again, Amanda is left alone almost immediately, as Neil gets an emergency call from the hospital and has to bail. Chris, who's been drowning his sorrows over Mary having the audacity to have boundaries, offers to step in for Neil. They hit it off and have a lovely evening.

 

Chris and Amanda go out once again, presumably on a night when Trish isn't singing, this time to the most romantic-sounding restaurant I have heard in my 33 years, bar none:

 

Bernie's Beanery.

 

Amanda finds the dive bar charming (that's how they get you, Mandy!), as well the company. Amanda comes down with the flu, and Chris brings her some soup, but is pushed out of the way by Neil, who comes around on a "house call".  Chris is falling hard for Amanda, but Amanda, still wounded by the breakdown of her marriage, is still needing some time. She enjoys Chris' company, but doesn't want to rush things. Chris agrees.

 

Bob is worried about how Mary's breakup with Chris is affecting her, and tells her not to take Chris' affections for granted. To tell him how she feels before it's too late. He tells Mary about the other women he's been seeing. Mary, however, is convinced that Chris is just being a big baby about their breakup and continues to play hardball with Chris. Bob thinks Mary is being a little too confident with Chris' feelings for her, but Mary is certain that Chris is just having an extended tantrum and is trying to punish her for not reacting how he wanted to his proposal.

 

Julie, now back from Scotland, warns Amanda that Chris is cute, but not worth dating. Besides, Amanda is still married. Amanda gets Julie's point, but Chris makes her feel special, unlike Greg. 

 

 

 

 

Robert collects Rebecca's safe-deposit box. Inside he discovers a letter addressed to Doug. I WONDER WHAT COULD BE IN THERE.

 

Yep. That's what's in there. Robert hands Doug the letter, and Doug reads it. He decides to keep the news that Dougie is Doug's a deep, dark...secret (alliteration is hard, okay?). From Robert, as he doesn't want to take Dougie away from him as well, but also from Julie, due to her insecurities about her inability to conceive.

 

 

 

 

 

Maggie decides not to uproot Janice again, and lets her stay with Joanne and he fiancé in San Francisco.

 

 

 

 

Linda plays Bob like a fiddle once again. She suggests to him that she needs to start over with a new job, and a new home, knowing full well Bob's ego wouldn't allow his wife to be working full time as a typist in a cramped apartment. He also feels for Melissa, and wants to give her a secure, stable home life, so he promises Linda he'll provide for her and Melissa generously and she can stay with him, regardless of whether or not they eventually separate. The poor man is dumber than Austin Reed under Reilly, ffs!

 

Linda then asks for a copy of the PI's report on her, then feigns horror at what she "used" to be like. She begs his forgiveness and asks for his help in remembering her "lost" past. Bob feels guilty, but admits he could have forgiven Linda if her affair had been with anyone other than Neil, but doesn't hold what she can't (allegedly) remember against her.

 

Linda then sets about ruining Bob's relationship with Stephanie. She doesn't get it. She doesn't like it. She's gonna END it. She decides to get Mary on-side, convincing her that it is best for Bob if Linda stay at the lakehouse because then Linda can protect Bob from Stephanie. Mary is her usual blunt self, and admits she agrees that Stephanie is not to be trusted, but neither is Linda.

 

Linda is shot down again, this time by Bob, who is lauded with compliments and flirtatious come-ons, and pathetic pleas for forgiveness by Linda. Bob wants to hear none of this, and goes to bed alone.

 

 

MARY S#!TS THE BED! Cocky Mary ruined the government contract already for Anderson, by publishing a super-detailed article in a magazine about their top-secret project, filled with confidential information! Even better: Neither Bob, nor Stephanie, nor Chris bothered to read the thing before Mary sent it out! So they cancel the contract, and everyone's mad at Mary. Mary's depressed and thinks her life's falling apart, so she goes to visit Phyllis in San Francisco. Except she doesn't tell Bob, since he's too mad at her. Bob can't for the life of him figure out where she went, or why she wouldn't tell him.

 

It's Linda who tells him the obvious: Mary left because she felt like a failure and like she let Bob down.  Mensa Bob wonders if he was too hard on her. Eventually Mary calls, and Bob tells her to remember that the blame is not entirely on Mary's shoulders. Mary appreciates the reassurance, but still won't say where she is.

 

In San Fran, Phyllis has a new boyfriend, but is still intent on sticking it to Neil a bit more. Evidently Phyllis has forgiven Mary for her affair with Neil (who I'm pretty sure Phyllis is still married to at this point). In their discussion, Mary reassures her mother that she's over Neil, and that he's back to pining away after Amanda.




Another relatively logical month, though I'm surprised the government contract arc ended so quickly. Mary isn't usually this dumb, so it surprised me that she'd be so absent-minded. Then again, dealing with being dumped by your fiancé could mess you up a bit, I'd imagine.

 

David is a sucker. I'm still firmly on Team Bandage Hands Stephanie here.

Be forewarned, though. SOD's recaps are running at odd intervals now, and I had to pluck some bits from the May recap for this, so I know that the tail end of April is gonna get a little wonky for Julie.

 

I'm also surprised Steve's stuck around this long, especially as basically a glorified talk-to. If this is all he's gonna do under Harrower, it's no surprise Schnetzer was out by year's end. I'm actually amazed he stuck around through the rest of '79, tbh.

Is it just me, or is anyone finding the story bubbles are starting to bleed together a fair bit more now? Harrower is really mixing the cast up a lot more than Ann Marcus did. I'm not totally against it, but stories are getting a little muddled as a result. Thoughts?

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Is Dr. Kate Winograd and Kate Roberts the same person?

 

Dr. Kate Winograd is a fictional character on the NBC soap opera Days of Our Lives, portrayed by Elaine Princi from 1977 to 1979. 

 

Dr Kate Winograd, first appears in July 1977, when she is Head of Anesthesiology at Salem University Hospital. Kate befriends main character Dr Bill Horton, and they fall for each other. Bill romances Kate, but she resists his advances. Kate departs Salem in February 1978, and returns in 1979, when she has a sexual affair with Dr Neil Curtis.

Kate and Bill's friendship begins when Bill, an accomplished surgeon, retrains in Anesthesiology after losing the ability to do surgery, thanks to a gunshot injury to his arm which causes nerve damage and impairs the use of his right hand. Bill retrains as an anesthesiologist so he can carry on working in the Operating room, and Kate supervises his re-training.

Bill clashes with new Chief of Surgery, Dr Walter Griffin, because Bill thinks Griffin does unnecessary surgeries on patients and is "knife-happy". Bill is assigned to the night shift by the Chief of Staff Greg Peters, to avoid clashes with Griffin. This puts strain on Bill's marriage with Dr Laura Horton. Kate speaks up for Bill, saying the other trainees value him, and persuades Peters to put Bill back on the day shift.

Bill's brother's neighbor Fred Barton falls downstairs and hits his head, and Bill rushes him into hospital. Fred hemorrhages and needs emergency brain-surgery, but the only surgeon available is an inexperienced junior trainee. The trainee panics in the Operating Room, and walks out. Bill has to do the surgery himself and he saves the man's life, with Kate assisting. But after the operation Barton is paralyzed from the waist down, and he sues the hospital and Bill and Kate. The trainee surgeon covers himself by saying Bill threw him out of the Operating Room; and Kate and Bill are fired from the hospital.

Both unemployed, and both fighting the suit against them, Bill and Kate spend time with each other, and become close. They go for walks, and Bill kisses Kate at Christmas. At the same time, Laura's own work commitments have also put a strain on their marriage. Unhappy with his relationship with Kate, Laura throws Bill out, and he goes to live at the Salem Inn. Although Kate is in love with him, she also won't let Bill stay with her. She won't be the "other woman".

Bill's brother Mickey persuades the young trainee surgeon to come clean about what he did; and Dr Marlena Evans helps Fred Barton realize that his paralysis is actually psychological, stemming from childhood traumas. On the day of Bill and Kate's trial, Barton walks into court! The case is thrown out, and Bill and Kate are re-instated at the hospital. That evening Bill and Kate celebrate and share a passionate kiss. But Kate breaks it off, and forces Bill to leave.

Bill has a change of heart, and realizes his love for his wife Laura. He apologizes to Kate, telling her he mistook feelings of loyalty to her as love, and that he wants to remain friends and colleagues. Kate tells him she is leaving to take a job in Cleveland, but she really is heartbroken to miss her chance with the man she loves!

In January 1979, with his hand better, Bill is offered the post of Chief of Surgery, and he accepts. Kate is over her infatuation with Bill, and with Laura's blessing, he re-hires Kate as Head of Anesthesiology. Kate assures Bill and Laura that she and Bill are now just good friends. Kate and Bill work away together when they go help flood-victims out of town.

Laura's mentally-ill mother commits suicide, and Laura is traumatized. She begins to have hallucinations of her dead mother, who tells her to do things. Laura becomes paranoid, and she accuses Kate of moving in on Bill, telling her everyone at the hospital is talking about it. Kate tries to reassure Laura that she is just friends with Bill, to no avail. As Kate's reputation is very important to her, she resigns from the hospital again. Bill asks Kate to stay near by, but she gives him the cold shoulder. In truth, Kate is having an affair with Dr Neil Curtis, and her affair with Neil has just become sexual. Kate is resolved to leave town, as she does not want to cause the breakdown of marriages.

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@beebs  Some random thoughts and observations. From reading your awesome assessments. Linda is giving me proto Kate vibes. How i wish i could see Linda in action. At least theirs an episode featuring Stephanie. Even through Margo was a dud character. Giving her cancer right away handicapped her. Having poor Mike stuck with her for 2 yrs. As she slowly died . Also handicapped his character. It such a shame that Stephen Schnetzer was wasted.  I see no point of making Laura insane. It was only yrs later that JER cool retcon ( I'm not even a fan of JER).  Involving demented Auntie Viv of all people. Would save Laura from her catatonic fate.  It's so strange that Ann didn't work out. She came in more than half way through Knots worst season. And successfully salvaged it.  This late 70's era is so fascinating to me. But it's 1980 were everything became topsy turvy. 

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7 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

@beebs  How i wish i could see Linda in action. 

 

Same. Just from previously reading about her she is my favourite female DAYS character. My favourite male DAYS character has technically been introduced in beebs recaps, he just hasn't been mentioned by name yet.

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1 hour ago, asafi said:

Is Dr. Kate Winograd and Kate Roberts the same person?

 

Dr. Kate Winograd is a fictional character on the NBC soap opera Days of Our Lives, portrayed by Elaine Princi from 1977 to 1979. 

 

Dr Kate Winograd, first appears in July 1977, when she is Head of Anesthesiology at Salem University Hospital. Kate befriends main character Dr Bill Horton, and they fall for each other. Bill romances Kate, but she resists his advances. Kate departs Salem in February 1978, and returns in 1979, when she has a sexual affair with Dr Neil Curtis.

Kate and Bill's friendship begins when Bill, an accomplished surgeon, retrains in Anesthesiology after losing the ability to do surgery, thanks to a gunshot injury to his arm which causes nerve damage and impairs the use of his right hand. Bill retrains as an anesthesiologist so he can carry on working in the Operating room, and Kate supervises his re-training.

Bill clashes with new Chief of Surgery, Dr Walter Griffin, because Bill thinks Griffin does unnecessary surgeries on patients and is "knife-happy". Bill is assigned to the night shift by the Chief of Staff Greg Peters, to avoid clashes with Griffin. This puts strain on Bill's marriage with Dr Laura Horton. Kate speaks up for Bill, saying the other trainees value him, and persuades Peters to put Bill back on the day shift.

Bill's brother's neighbor Fred Barton falls downstairs and hits his head, and Bill rushes him into hospital. Fred hemorrhages and needs emergency brain-surgery, but the only surgeon available is an inexperienced junior trainee. The trainee panics in the Operating Room, and walks out. Bill has to do the surgery himself and he saves the man's life, with Kate assisting. But after the operation Barton is paralyzed from the waist down, and he sues the hospital and Bill and Kate. The trainee surgeon covers himself by saying Bill threw him out of the Operating Room; and Kate and Bill are fired from the hospital.

Both unemployed, and both fighting the suit against them, Bill and Kate spend time with each other, and become close. They go for walks, and Bill kisses Kate at Christmas. At the same time, Laura's own work commitments have also put a strain on their marriage. Unhappy with his relationship with Kate, Laura throws Bill out, and he goes to live at the Salem Inn. Although Kate is in love with him, she also won't let Bill stay with her. She won't be the "other woman".

Bill's brother Mickey persuades the young trainee surgeon to come clean about what he did; and Dr Marlena Evans helps Fred Barton realize that his paralysis is actually psychological, stemming from childhood traumas. On the day of Bill and Kate's trial, Barton walks into court! The case is thrown out, and Bill and Kate are re-instated at the hospital. That evening Bill and Kate celebrate and share a passionate kiss. But Kate breaks it off, and forces Bill to leave.

Bill has a change of heart, and realizes his love for his wife Laura. He apologizes to Kate, telling her he mistook feelings of loyalty to her as love, and that he wants to remain friends and colleagues. Kate tells him she is leaving to take a job in Cleveland, but she really is heartbroken to miss her chance with the man she loves!

In January 1979, with his hand better, Bill is offered the post of Chief of Surgery, and he accepts. Kate is over her infatuation with Bill, and with Laura's blessing, he re-hires Kate as Head of Anesthesiology. Kate assures Bill and Laura that she and Bill are now just good friends. Kate and Bill work away together when they go help flood-victims out of town.

Laura's mentally-ill mother commits suicide, and Laura is traumatized. She begins to have hallucinations of her dead mother, who tells her to do things. Laura becomes paranoid, and she accuses Kate of moving in on Bill, telling her everyone at the hospital is talking about it. Kate tries to reassure Laura that she is just friends with Bill, to no avail. As Kate's reputation is very important to her, she resigns from the hospital again. Bill asks Kate to stay near by, but she gives him the cold shoulder. In truth, Kate is having an affair with Dr Neil Curtis, and her affair with Neil has just become sexual. Kate is resolved to leave town, as she does not want to cause the breakdown of marriages.

 

The two Kate's are not the same person, but I think the show sort of merged some of Kate Winograds backstory onto Kate Roberts.  I think it's where the Bill/Kate Roberts backstory comes from.  It was just changed and amped up by JER.

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40 minutes ago, Bright Eyes said:

 

Same. Just from previously reading about her she is my favourite female DAYS character. My favourite male DAYS character has technically been introduced in beebs recaps, he just hasn't been mentioned by name yet.

Would this character happened to be Alex Marshall? 

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1 minute ago, carolineg said:

 

The two Kate's are not the same person, but I think the show sort of merged some of Kate Winograds backstory onto Kate Roberts.  I think it's where the Bill/Kate Roberts backstory comes from.  It was just changed and amped up by JER.

 

It's the age old question, but this explanation suits best. For one, Kate Winograd's first name was Martha and a doctor. Though, it's just kind of annoying JER didn't make them the same character. She had spent so many years away any changes he wanted to make to her would have been easily explained.

2 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Would this character happened to be Alex Marshall? 

 

DING DING DING. Such a gleeful sh*t disturber. I love him. As far as I'm concerned him and Marie are living it up somewhere away from the losers of Salem.

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1 minute ago, Bright Eyes said:

 

It's the age old question, but this explanation suits best. For one, Kate Winograd's first name was Martha and a doctor. Though, it's just kind of annoying JER didn't make them the same character. She had spent so many years away any changes he wanted to make to her would have been easily explained.

 

My assumption is that originally Kate Roberts had nothing to do with Bill or Kate Winograd when she was introduced.  And someone or JER himself, read some history about Days a just decided it was close enough to go with for Lucas's paternity.   And for all that history used the reveal turned out to be pretty lame with Bill barely on the canvas.

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2 minutes ago, Bright Eyes said:

 

 

 

DING DING DING. Such a gleeful sh*t disturber. I love him. As far as I'm concerned him and Marie are living it up somewhere away from the losers of Salem.

I love Alex too. By the time i started watching he was on his way out. What little i've seen of Alex and Marie i like.  

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By the way, why didn't Maree Cheatham returned to Days in the 70's when TPTB brought Marie Horton back? 

Maree seems like a wonderful actress and had great chemistry and history with the Hortons. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, asafi said:

By the way, why didn't Maree Cheatham returned to Days in the 70's when TPTB brought Marie Horton back? 

Maree seems like a wonderful actress and had great chemistry and history with the Hortons. 

 

 

Maree was on SFT playing Stephanie at the time. 

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