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10 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

I think it was Lucinda that coined that nickname for Julie.

Lisa was the best at weaponzing people's names, lol.

Jimbo, Johnny, 'Lucky Lucy'. I think she might have even called Susan Stewart, "Suzie".

1 minute ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Lisa was the best at weaponzing people's names, lol.

Jimbo, Johnny, 'Lucky Lucy'. I think she might have even called Susan Stewart, "Suzie" once.

 

Don't know why I quoted myself there. Oops.

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Does anybody remember?

I'm currently watching the episodes which feature the "end" of Tonio Reyes. There are a few gaps in the episodes but, just going by the episodes, it looks like Duncan killed Tonio. However, when I was reading an online synopsis, it stated that Tonio escaped is apparently still alive. Does anybody know what really happened to Tonio? 

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2 minutes ago, Bill Bauer said:

Does anybody remember?

I'm currently watching the episodes which feature the "end" of Tonio Reyes. There are a few gaps in the episodes but, just going by the episodes, it looks like Duncan killed Tonio. However, when I was reading an online synopsis, it stated that Tonio escaped is apparently still alive. Does anybody know what really happened to Tonio? 

He was fleeing from Duncan. He lost his grip on the rope ladder and fell into the ocean. Everyone thought he drowned and died. Later in 1994 he reappeared in Montage kidnapping Susan and Bob and demanded they operate on  him after being shot. Susan and Bob first refused but later operated on Tonio. It was to no avail as he died on the operating table.

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5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

He was fleeing from Duncan. He lost his grip on the rope ladder and fell into the ocean. Everyone thought he drowned and died. Later in 1994 he reappeared in Montage kidnapping Susan and Bob and demanded they operate on  him after being shot. Susan and Bob first refused but later operated on Tonio. It was to no avail as he died on the operating table.

Thank you for that, soapsuds. However, he didn't die on the operating table. I watched the episodes around this time so I'm sure of that. He survived the operation (Bob and Susan later grappled with having saved his life after he'd cause so much suffering). He came back to get Sabrina after Bob and Susan left Montega. Duncan was still there in Montega. He kidnapped Sabrina and Duncan followed after them. Tonio shot Duncan and then, at the end of the episode, Tonio was leaving and Duncan reached up and grabbed him. The episode ends there and the following few episodes are missing. Later, Duncan talks about killing Tonio. However, the synopsis I read said that Tonio survived and told Sabrina he'd be back one day and they don't have his status as "deceased". So I'm a bit confused. Did he really die or did Duncan think he killed him but he really survived?

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15 hours ago, Bill Bauer said:

Thank you for that, soapsuds. However, he didn't die on the operating table. I watched the episodes around this time so I'm sure of that. He survived the operation (Bob and Susan later grappled with having saved his life after he'd cause so much suffering). He came back to get Sabrina after Bob and Susan left Montega. Duncan was still there in Montega. He kidnapped Sabrina and Duncan followed after them. Tonio shot Duncan and then, at the end of the episode, Tonio was leaving and Duncan reached up and grabbed him. The episode ends there and the following few episodes are missing. Later, Duncan talks about killing Tonio. However, the synopsis I read said that Tonio survived and told Sabrina he'd be back one day and they don't have his status as "deceased". So I'm a bit confused. Did he really die or did Duncan think he killed him but he really survived?

The synopses I've read of that last return say he died. I guess we won't know for sure until the episodes show up. 

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I thought Claire Beckham was gone before 1994? I just remember the new HWs bringing back a lot of fan favorites at that time. It's unfortunate the stories weren't there or were rehash of what Marland had already done.

2 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Hey, in my fan and writer's brain, Tonio is still alive and living somewhere in the rainforest of Montega. Also, he is the real biological father of Gabriel Caras.

I thought it would've been great had Tonio been Bianca bio dad. 

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15 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I thought Claire Beckham was gone before 1994? I just remember the new HWs bringing back a lot of fan favorites at that time. It's unfortunate the stories weren't there or were rehash of what Marland had already done.

I thought it would've been great had Tonio been Bianca bio dad. 

How would that work out chronologically though? Tonio would have had to have been a young teenager, like how Iva was only thirteen when she became pregnant with Lily. 

I mentioned Gabriel and Tonio because it would've provided an easy out to what I thought was a dumb storyline: making him Craig's. It also could have been a way to bring Bryant back with the discovery that Bryant was actually kidnapped and the "accident" staged, out of revenge for finding out that Gabriel's mother, before she passed away, convinced Sierra to protect Gabriel from ever finding out who his biological father was and Sierra, in turn, convincing Craig to go along with the ruse. Tonio finds out, summons his connections in the underground and criminal networks (with a helping hand from James Stenbeck, who still owed Tonio a favor) to take a son, to replace the son who was taken from him.

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28 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I thought Claire Beckham was gone before 1994? I just remember the new HWs bringing back a lot of fan favorites at that time. It's unfortunate the stories weren't there or were rehash of what Marland had already done.

Claire briefly returned. 

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14 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I thought Tonio hit his head during the struggle with Duncan in 1993/4 and died. 

I think this is most likely what happened. I mean, I know that happened due to Duncan talking about it later (Tonio hitting his head and dying) but I was just confused because the synopsis on the SoapCentral webpage makes it sound like he escaped and is in hiding. However, that doesn't really make sense because Duncan wouldn't be saying that he died if he escaped and Sabrina would have been worried about going back to Montega (which she wasn't) in the episode I just watched. The episode was Sabrina's last episode after a visit to Oakdale (Christmas 1992) and, in the end, she and Frannie were flying to Montega to live. No mention of Tonio. I think he did die. I don't know if I trust the SoapCentral synopses. The problem was that the actual "death" episode for Tonio is one of just a few missing from that time period. So, I thought I'd see if anybody had any first-hand memories of it. Thanks for the help!

I can't understand why the show never brought back Frannie and Sabrina. I really liked both characters and found them interesting. Much more interesting than most of the characters they filled the show with in its last decade or so. And I really liked Claire Beckham a lot!

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