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Knowing soap fans as well as the gays, there will be complaints no matter who the moderator is. I do think there are better options than giving Locher literally every spot, particularly with shows he either does not know well at all or is clearly reticent to allow the actors to be open out of his own brand loyalty to P&G beyond all reason.

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3 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

He told Melanie he really wanted to interview Nancy McKeon after he found out they were best friends. I'd love to hear stories about her brother who sadly passed.

Coincidentally, I had been watching reruns of The Division and Nancy McKeon's character found out she had a half-sister from her father played by the late Alex Rocco, who was played by none other than Melanie Smith,

 

I believe Nancy now lives in Texas, I think Austin or somewhere near there. But she would be a good person to hear from too. 

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21 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

It's so cool that Bette Davis requested Melanie's autograph.

 

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 lol ... I love how Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, etc. loved and respected soap operas. Of course considering their melodramas as movies, it makes sense. Love it though. They see the hard work that goes into it that gets overlooked and dismissed.

 

That's so cool though. I need to watch this interview for sure. Sounds like a good time. 

1 minute ago, Forever8 said:

Coincidentally, I had been watching reruns of The Division and Nancy McKeon's character found out she had a half-sister from her father played by the late Alex Rocco, who was played by none other than Melanie Smith,

 

I believe Nancy now lives in Texas, I think Austin or somewhere near there. But she would be a good person to hear from too. 

 

I had no clue either about Nancy and Melanie being BFFS, but I can totally see it. 

 

Would love to see them interviewed together. 

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There have been many moments where I definitely have been frustrated with Alan and clearly some reunions he derailed with poor moderation but we should still give him credit that he is doing them, setting them up, etc. views or not.

Also, and this is not a complete defense of him, but it strikes me that the fact he let her get deep onto Beecroft might because he indeed was there and saw that it was true so he was comfortable with it.
Whereas other gossip he cringes at because he wasn't there, can't vouch for it and is concerning about defaming people who can't defend themselves. Not in a legal sense but that's probably where the caution is. Actors are still people and some people might be settling scores in a way that is unfair and he might not be OK giving them a platform to do that if he can't verify the info.

Plenty to criticize him for though but I did want to present some positivity because I am still glad they get made.

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7 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

There have been many moments where I definitely have been frustrated with Alan and clearly some reunions he derailed with poor moderation but we should still give him credit that he is doing them, setting them up, etc. views or not.

Also, and this is not a complete defense of him, but it strikes me that the fact he let her get deep onto Beecroft might because he indeed was there and saw that it was true so he was comfortable with it.
Whereas other gossip he cringes at because he wasn't there, can't vouch for it and is concerning about defaming people who can't defend themselves. Not in a legal sense but that's probably where the caution is. Actors are still people and some people might be settling scores in a way that is unfair and he might not be OK giving them a platform to do that if he can't verify the info.

Plenty to criticize him for though but I did want to present some positivity because I am still glad they get made.

 

This.

 

I absolutely agree with your take on this.

 

He definitely deserves some heat, but at his core, he's a PR person and it shows. You're trained to prevent messes, not cause them. Even if deep down he probably loves the tea like we all do.

 

I also understand the frustration of wanting to go deeper with the guests and get more tea spilled. I admit to being frustrated, but the reality is, they aren't interviews. They're hangouts he started during the pandemic so we could hang out with our favorite soap stars from the past. I appreciate the effort and his ability to get so many people I never thought I'd hear from (or SEE do an interview live on YouTube, LOL).

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25 minutes ago, Forever8 said:

Coincidentally, I had been watching reruns of The Division and Nancy McKeon's character found out she had a half-sister from her father played by the late Alex Rocco, who was played by none other than Melanie Smith,

 

I believe Nancy now lives in Texas, I think Austin or somewhere near there. But she would be a good person to hear from too. 

You should check out Mindy Cohn's podcast...she had Nancy on a few months ago..and it was a fun interview.

 

Also, she and Tracy Bergman were friends since the 70s..and she's close to Deirdre Hall.  Some nice interviews...doubt Alan Locher would be that indepth.

 

Bette Davis wanting Melanie's autograph makes sense....Melanie had the tortured vibe..perfect for film noir.

 

I'll be a table of one...but I like Mary Ellen as Frannie better than Julianne Moore.

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1 hour ago, FrenchBug82 said:

Also, and this is not a complete defense of him, but it strikes me that the fact he let her get deep onto Beecroft might because he indeed was there and saw that it was true so he was comfortable with it.

was he there? i thought alan started at p&g in 1997. according to imdb, both melanie and mary ellen left the show in 1992. 

 

but, it is true that when actors who were on the show prior to he arrival want to let it rip, he lets them go — witness rosemary printz. came across thoughts about the roots of her feud  with irna phillips — have to scroll down a bit.

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In 1990 Greg Beecroft was cast as a recast Duke. He lasted an extremely short time. When GH abruptly aborted the story. Quickly killing Duke. Beecroft must have pissed off TPTB on GH.

 

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2 hours ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

was he there? i thought alan started at p&g in 1997. according to imdb, both melanie and mary ellen left the show in 1992. 

Correct -- Alan was not working on ATWT when Melanie and Mary Ellen were on the show.  

 

I find the interviews are better, with less interruptions, when Alan hasn't worked with the guests.  There is less of his own rambling, he's not as chummy w/ the actors and the interviews are more professional.  The trade off is that sometimes he gets history wrong...but I will gladly trade that for depth and a little tea.    The fans are always there to correct him -- and Alan often solicits their fact-checking prowess.

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22 hours ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

i have no clue, either. and am in agreement re MADD.

 

when she replaced ken fitts at pgp, then brought felicia minei behr to replace john valente at ‘world turns, one of minei behr’s first acts was to fire allyson rice taylor and bring on susan batten to play connor walsh. batten has played luna on one life to life.

 

and while i had my issues with hogan schefer as headwriter, i have to give goutman credit for  casting scott holryod as paul ryan. but two years later, after former abc exec, barbara bloom, replaced lucy johnson at cbs daytime, holryod is fired and roger howarth — todd on one life to live — takes over. 

 

seeing a pattern here? a friend called it ‘the abcafication of as the world turns — a situation that escalated when pgp eliminated madd’s position when she let in 2005 — leaving goutman and ellen wheeler at gl with no one to run interference with the network. 

 

I'm almost questioning what Frank Valentini could've done for As the World Turns. I know it's controversial, but, he does know how to run a soap set.

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3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

 

I'm almost questioning what Frank Valentini could've done for As the World Turns. I know it's controversial, but, he does know how to run a soap set.

For one thing, he would've brought on a ton of new characters lol

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Just now, AbcNbc247 said:

For one thing, he would've brought on a ton of new characters lol

 

But I do think we would've had sets remain, and maybe even some set expansion. One thing you cannot deny about Valentini: he can handle and shift a budget.

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I've watched GH..and his sets look like they're fall over if it's windy.  His sets look basic and cheap...devoid of personality.

 

It saddens me that the hideous Snyder kitchen remained till the end.  Ugliest set ever..and also a pointless family that was unneeded on the show.

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7 hours ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

was he there? i thought alan started at p&g in 1997. according to imdb, both melanie and mary ellen left the show in 1992. 

 

I was going by what DRW50 said earlier in the thread about having first-hand knowledge of the ladies involved.

Let's rephrase my point and say he may have had first-hand or contemporary knowledge of Beecroft's issues at the time enough that he was comfortable this was the truth.
I obviously have no way of knowing but I think the underlying point of what his motives might be in the context of him seemingly making an exception here stands.

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