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2 hours ago, juppiter said:


there would be a nickname decoder post once every few months. I remember Juicy = Lucinda. Can’t remember any others at the moment. 

 

Yes, I've seen them and I'm storing them along with the recaps.

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1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Can't remember whether I've actually seen this episode where the police burst into Bob and Kim's wedding reception. Has this episode been posted before?

 

What a bloated writing staff. They had no confidence in Horgan and kept rotating consultants and co-heads.  Luckily, they got Marland from Loving.  Her co heads during her 1 year were: Klein/Wasserman, Benjamin, Sowards/Stamfl, Laibson/Bogard.  Lemay/Consultant, Gross/Consultant. Not to mention all the various breakdown and script writers who cycled through.

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14 hours ago, RavenWhitney said:

What a bloated writing staff. They had no confidence in Horgan and kept rotating consultants and co-heads.  Luckily, they got Marland from Loving.  Her co heads during her 1 year were: Klein/Wasserman, Benjamin, Sowards/Stamfl, Laibson/Bogard.  Lemay/Consultant, Gross/Consultant. Not to mention all the various breakdown and script writers who cycled through.

 

From what I've seen of her work, I think that Susan Bedsow Horgan would have been able to manage HW duties.  This just goes to prove how terribly misogynistic the daytime soap industry was and still is, which is pretty shocking, considering the role of Irna Phillips, a woman, in the creation of the T.V. daytime drama. 

 

I posted that episode because, for all the talk that Bob and Kim's wedding gets, no one seems to mention the fact that an entire room of the bridal party and guests were rounded up by police and shuffled off to the police station, where they were detained!

Also, those scenes between Lucy Deakins' Lily and EH's Lucinda seem pretty tender and rare...not that it's meat, or anything but you catch my drift. 

but yeah, a pretty chaotic episode, lol.

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13 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think Horgan left the show in a stable place with all the correct moving pieces for Marland to come in and take advantage of.

 

I agree and there was a continuity of style in some of the execution of later storylines during Marland's tenure.

For example, the chaotic, frenzied night where Shannon got arrested at Diana's and a brawl ensues where the police ended up dragging everyone in the restaurant's dining room into the police station (with an exasperated Lt. McClosky bellowing for "Quiet!"), with Lucinda once again salivating at the prospect of capitalizing off the juicy gossip that will be in her newspaper. That happened a year later in '86. It has obvious echoes to the frenzied, chaotic scene at Bob & Kim's wedding reception. There are other examples where there is a continuity of characterizations and technique in story execution that might not be obvious to some but is obvious to me.

The style and the execution are very similar, except a year later, the tracking of how the scene was filmed at Diana's was technically more sophisticated, having been filmed with edits that were more seamless.

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The show was in good hands ratings wise during Horgan run. These are the ratings for the week of episodes posted by @DramatistDreamer 

Top 10 daytime shows April 15 - 19 1985

 

1. General Hospital (ABC), 8.1/28
2. All My Children (ABC) 7.3/27
3. The Young and the Restless (CBS)7.2/30
4. Guiding Light (CBS), 7.2/25
5. As the World Turns (CBS), 7.0/26
6. Days of Our Lives (NBC), 6.5/24
7. One Life to Live (ABC), 6.2/23.

 

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This is soap YT page quickly becoming my favorite channel for ATWT episodes because she/he/they are posting some episodes that I'm pretty sure have never been posted before.

That cover version of "Every Breath You Take" in the opening scene had me screaming.  There have been clips posted of Lisa struggling and Tom and Margo getting to the warehouse but much of how they got there was missing.  This fills in the missing details.

 

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Was the cover of "Every Breath You Take" from an episode of Solid Gold? I think I'm hearing Marilyn McCoo.

(Around this time, there was a Tom and Margo scene where she's watching TV. The audio was from a Lily Tomlin album.)

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I was trying to figure out if Anthony Herrera is in this commercial. Probably not him it just looks a bit like him to me.

 

 

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13 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

This is soap YT page quickly becoming my favorite channel for ATWT episodes because she/he/they are posting some episodes that I'm pretty sure have never been posted before.

That cover version of "Every Breath You Take" in the opening scene had me screaming.  There have been clips posted of Lisa struggling and Tom and Margo getting to the warehouse but much of how they got there was missing.  This fills in the missing details.

 

The show was fun then...yes, it didnt have the solid core that it would for a year or two with Marland..but energy and Lisa was written the best at this time, comic relief but not dumb..and it looked like Fulton was having a ball. my favorite Tom and Margo..I loved Maggie, Frank and thought Cal was sexy..and sorry, I know everyone loved Craig and Sierra but she is just so annoying...bluttering things out, pausing for long periods...its such odd acting.

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11 minutes ago, Mitch said:

The show was fun then...yes, it didnt have the solid core that it would for a year or two with Marland..but energy and Lisa was written the best at this time, comic relief but not dumb..and it looked like Fulton was having a ball. my favorite Tom and Margo..I loved Maggie, Frank and thought Cal was sexy..and sorry, I know everyone loved Craig and Sierra but she is just so annoying...bluttering things out, pausing for long periods...its such odd acting.

There is another episode by the same channel that has HBS hands running through GM hairy chest...so yummy and sexy.

 

Liz in her interview with Alan said Finn Carter was a very green actress when she first started and it was very obvious. She(Finn) would always worry about her lines and how they would come out.

 

 

 

And for some odd reason I found Cal sexy too.😯

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1 hour ago, Mitch said:

The show was fun then...yes, it didnt have the solid core that it would for a year or two with Marland..but energy and Lisa was written the best at this time, comic relief but not dumb..and it looked like Fulton was having a ball. my favorite Tom and Margo..I loved Maggie, Frank and thought Cal was sexy..and sorry, I know everyone loved Craig and Sierra but she is just so annoying...bluttering things out, pausing for long periods...its such odd acting.

 

Speaking of the overlooked continuity between writing regimes, only four years later David Cryer (Haskell) would return as Phillip Lombard. I would have liked the show to bring him back in the show's final years, as he might've made a good love interest for Lisa. Fulton and Cryer clearly have some zany, fun chemistry in these scenes. In the show's last years, Lisa was in desperate need of some fun and romance.

 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

There is another episode by the same channel that has HBS hands running through GM hairy chest...so yummy and sexy.

 

Liz in her interview with Alan said Finn Carter was a very green actress when she first started and it was very obvious. She(Finn) would always worry about her lines and how they would come out.

 

And for some odd reason I found Cal sexy too.😯

 

I was going to say the same thing.  Finn became much more assured in the next year and did some excellent work in 1986 and 87, in particular. 

 

Finn had come straight from Little Theater into television, already a different animal and daytime, in particular, has a very frenetic pace where one has to learn copious pages of dialogue very quickly. I don't think most people have an appreciation for how challenging that can be and Finn was not eased into things either...she entered in storyline that was already off the ground and running.

I'd advise people to look at her scenes in 1986 and 1987, she did some fantastic work on the show!

 

Last year I said that I wished Cal Randolph had stayed around (did the actor leave by choice or was his character dispatched?  I ask because with these livestreams we're finding out that many actors who were alleged to have been "cut" actually chose to leave e.g. Frank Runyeon and wanted to be written out).  The more I see the character, the more I think he should've stayed.  Fight me, if you want but I think Luke Reilly and Lisa Brown would have had some really good chemistry.

 

Was I the only one who didn't know that Zach Roerig got busted for DUI over Memorial Day weekend?

 

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/29/vampires-diaries-zach-roerig-arrested-dui-allegedly-urinates-pees-jail-cell/

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14 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Last year I said that I wished Cal Randolph had stayed around (did the actor leave by choice or was his character dispatched?  I ask because with these livestreams we're finding out that many actors who were alleged to have been "cut" actually chose to leave e.g. Frank Runyeon and wanted to be written out).  The more I see the character, the more I think he should've stayed.  Fight me, if you want but I think Luke Reilly and Lisa Brown would have had some really good chemistry.

 

I always thought he was fired, especially as his main screen partner for much of 1985 (Maggie) had also been pushed out, but I'm not sure. Didn't Eileen Fulton complain about having to play out Lisa's reaction to his murder or am I misremembering?

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