DramatistDreamer Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, victoria foxton said: The only murder mysteries Doug did on GL were Lucille's, Diane's and Joe's. ATWT had way way more. The only dud being Carolyn's. MKA only agreed to do 6 months. Which was a real shame. I really liked Neal. But had she stayed. I don''t know if the character would've fared well after Doug's passing. Royce didn't fare well after Doug's passed. One aspect that doesn't get discussed enough is how many actors either wanted to leave because they had other opportunities that they wanted to explore or that they simply wanted time off from the grind of soaps, which is understandable but often creates huge challenges for the writing of storylines. I was watching a string of episodes from '94 over the weekend and in terms of Terry Lester, I will say that, despite how disappointing the conclusion turned out to be, Lester really had chemistry with pretty much every actor he shared scenes with. I saw him in a scene with Scott DeFreitas (Andy) and appreciated how well both actors played off of each other. It was nice to see both actors invested despite the scene being quite brief. 3 hours ago, Soapsuds said: Martha's acting on this episode was horrific. Samantha Markham was such a dull character. The two actress that played the role were terrible too. I missed much of the time that this character was on the canvas but from what I've seen, much of early Samantha seemed like a lot of filler. I didn't see much of the show when they put her with Kirk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Khan Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, BetterForgotten said: I don't think the show was as tightly executed under Caso as it was under Calhoun. No one ever gave Calhoun enough credit, and it was clear Caso was riding on Marland's coattails when he was suddenly faced with difficult task of guiding the show post-Marland. For some reason, if they had Calhoun, I don't think this period may have been as rocky... Agree. As wonderful as Doug Marland's writing always was (IMO), Robert Calhoun gave his work on ATWT a certain energy that Laurence Caso never could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
victoria foxton Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 6 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said: I missed much of the time that this character was on the canvas but from what I've seen, much of early Samantha seemed like a lot of filler. I didn't see much of the show when they put her with Kirk. I liked the original Sam. She had great chemistry with both Craig and Kirk. But the writing was terrible. It was such a drab and awkward era. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DramatistDreamer Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Khan said: Agree. As wonderful as Doug Marland's writing always was (IMO), Robert Calhoun gave his work on ATWT a certain energy that Laurence Caso never could. And that's really the difference between stage and screen. On stage, the written word is the alpha and the omega, sets and stage production are the icing but you can stage a powerful production with practically nothing on stage (believe me, I know). It stands in contrast to television where no matter how good the writing may be, you really can't pull off a convincing production without... well, production--set pieces, proper lighting, wardrobe, hair and makeup to help set the scene. On soaps, in particular, it's very important. Yeah, you can still have stunning, engrossing dialogue and cheap sets and it could still be darn good but think about how distracting it has been anytime you've watched an actor on screen with horrible makeup, wardrobe and set pieces that look as if they were made of plywood. It has the effect of taking away from the overall performance. I would never diminish the effect that Calhoun's work had on the show, it is very much present on the screen with some of the show's best performances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soapsuds Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 A remote I and @DRW50 enjoyed is discussed. The Frankie and Darryl remote from Switzerland and the tram/cable car. https://www.tulsaworld.com/archive/it-s-a-dangerous-world/article_f77d23b3-4484-5217-b397-c50a6871428a.html I expected higher numbers for it but it ranked #3 for week. That remote was beautifully done. Too bad it never made on dvd or to YouTube. Here are the ratings for it back in July of 1992. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 Thanks for finding that. I suppose this was around the high water mark for ATWT's ratings in these years... 10 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said: I missed much of the time that this character was on the canvas but from what I've seen, much of early Samantha seemed like a lot of filler. I didn't see much of the show when they put her with Kirk. I liked Sam, especially her partnership with Eliot, and I thought Brooke Alexander clicked with Scott Bryce and Tom Wiggin. I do think that having so many people conning Lucinda in a 3-4 year period, and having so many long-lost siblings pop up in a 2-year period, might not have been the greatest idea. I do think if they hadn't fired Alexander, the character could have had a chance. I didn't care for the recast...and then later regimes seemingly forgot the character ever existed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soapsuds Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) I was watching a clip from 1994....and ATWT had almost all of the core characters from Marland 's 80s around. I noticed Finn Carter returned as Sierra. Does anyone remember why Sierra returned? It's so sad that the talent pool was loaded yet ATWT had Richard Backus as HW and he was totally clueless. Edited May 29, 2020 by Soapsuds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Soapsuds said: I was watching a clip from 1994....and ATWT had almost all of the core characters from Marland 's 80s around. I noticed Finn Carter returned as Sierra. Did anyone really why Sierra returned? It so sad the talent pool was loaded yet ATWT had Richard Backus as HE totally clueless. I guess Finn just returned to help with Scott Bryce's exit - I wonder if they asked her when they recast in the early '00s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soapsuds Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DRW50 said: I guess Finn just returned to help with Scott Bryce's exit - I wonder if they asked her when they recast in the early '00s. I think she had barely had a child when she was asked. I did enjoy MBE in the role. Edited May 29, 2020 by Soapsuds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DramatistDreamer Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Soapsuds said: I think she had barely had a child when she was asked. I did enjoy MBE in the role. Was this the early 00s? She was asked? I didn't know she had been asked back in the early '00s. Since Bryce wasn't playing Craig, it probably wasn't worth the return stint for her, especially having just had her second baby. Edited May 29, 2020 by DramatistDreamer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soapsuds Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said: Was this the early 00s? She was asked? I didn't know she had been asked back in the early '00s. Since Bryce wasn't playing Craig, it probably wasn't worth the return stint for her, especially having just had her second baby. Yes, I recall her being asked but she had just given birth so she wasn't able to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DramatistDreamer Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Soapsuds said: A remote I and @DRW50 enjoyed is discussed. The Frankie and Darryl remote from Switzerland and the tram/cable car. https://www.tulsaworld.com/archive/it-s-a-dangerous-world/article_f77d23b3-4484-5217-b397-c50a6871428a.html I expected higher numbers for it but it ranked #3 for week. That remote was beautifully done. Too bad it never made on dvd or to YouTube. There are still a lot of well done episodes missing from YouTube and/or haven't been seen since their original airing. I wish someone would've asked Kathryn Hays if she had a copy of the Labor Day episodes where Kim went through labor and gave birth to Christopher at the cabin. That is among the most sought after episodes on ATWT and it would be a kick if she actually had it somewhere on VHS or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soapsuds Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 Lawd Alan starts it off with his name on logos followed by the atwt opening...lololol This interview with Ellen and Scott is sinking fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soaplovers Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 I liked original Sam...she was more low key and had a dry sense of humor. She was a refreshing contrast to the dramatic personas of Lucinda and Lily. I did love how she left originally with telling Kirk to never con a con artist. And the recast was a bust...imho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soapsuds Members Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) Paul Lammers discussion. How tough a director he was and he would curse at some of the bad takes..lol. But he was sweet person but during taping he was all business. This is why he was ATWT best director. Ooooo Benjamin didn't like Scott at the beginning... Edited May 29, 2020 by Soapsuds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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