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On 9/16/2019 at 8:40 PM, slick jones said:

How long was David Harbour on as Officer Ron Shanks? I know it was a while....

 

On 9/17/2019 at 4:00 AM, P.J. said:

Maybe two or three years? I know he was there in 2001 for Julia I's going crazy---not sure he was there in 2002 when Julia kidnapped and raped Jack.

 

On 9/17/2019 at 10:36 PM, Brolden said:

I feel like it was longer than that. I can't be sure though. He was one of those characters that was just always around in the background. I'd say he was on as early as 2000, when I started watching (could have been earlier), and I'd say he lasted into 2003 at least.

 

On 9/18/2019 at 4:28 AM, P.J. said:

Re: David Harbour/Shanks....he might have started as early as '97. They still had a fair amount of extras running around then. 

 

Sorry to drag up an old conversation thread, but I just found some info:

"August 6, 1999 - David Harbour will portray Officer Shanks starting Tuesday, August 17th. He'll be in scenes with Carly and Molly."

 

Seems like Harbour started the role on August 17, 1999 (give or take an episode due to scheduling changes, of course).

 

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On 4/19/2020 at 11:10 AM, Brolden said:

Sorry to drag up an old conversation thread, but I just found some info:

"August 6, 1999 - David Harbour will portray Officer Shanks starting Tuesday, August 17th. He'll be in scenes with Carly and Molly."

 

Seems like Harbour started the role on August 17, 1999 (give or take an episode due to scheduling changes, of course).

 

 

 

His scene starts about 3 minutes in.

 

(Julia's vapid face is such a fantastic invitation to watch this episode, isn't it)

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I've always found it funny that the foundations of GH and ATWT were slowly dismantled starting with a Carly lying about the paternity of her child.

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4 hours ago, Darn said:

I've always found it funny that the foundations of GH and ATWT were slowly dismantled starting with a Carly lying about the paternity of her child.

I always thought Carly was a popular character on ATWT.

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6 minutes ago, SamandWillowFan said:

I always thought Carly was a popular character on ATWT.

 

The character lost some support in the last decade (partly due to what seemed to be contempt for her from the powers that be - her maternity leave stories were so spiteful), but she was popular most of the time.

 

For me ATWT lost its foundation for good when MADD and Felicia Menei Behr decided the show should just be an ABC soap. Any identity was gone and never returned.

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Does anyone know what Goutman had against Scott DeFreitas?

 

Even though I came to the show later, I liked him.  I have heard Goutman didn’t like him for some reason.

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20 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Does anyone know what Goutman had against Scott DeFreitas?

 

Even though I came to the show later, I liked him.  I have heard Goutman didn’t like him for some reason.

I thought Scott was gone before Goutman arrived. MADD is the one that got rid of him. She said he wasn't hot enough. 

 

MADD and Behr did a lot of damage to ATWT. Behr started on fire by bringing back Holden and ending the horrific Umberto story with a murder mystery. The ratings went back up and they were back in the top 3 soaps. That didn't last long as DeFreitas, Liz Hubbard and Allison Rice were all fired. The stories became very dull and drawn out. Ratings quickly dropped afterwards.

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9 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I thought Scott was gone before Goutman arrived. MADD is the one that got rid of him. She said he wasn't hot enough. 

 

MADD and Behr did a lot of damage to ATWT. Behr started on fire by bringing back Holden and ending the horrific Umberto story with a murder mystery. The ratings went back up and they were back in the top 3 soaps. That didn't last long as DeFreitas, Liz Hubbard and Allison Rice were all fired. The stories became very dull and drawn out. Ratings quickly dropped afterwards.

 

Yep. This. MADD was the problem.

 

Not that Goutman didn't suck ass of course ...

36 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Does anyone know what Goutman had against Scott DeFreitas?

 

Even though I came to the show later, I liked him.  I have heard Goutman didn’t like him for some reason.

 

like soapsuds said, it was MADD who dumped him. But considering Andy never returned under Goutman it does open the question up ...

 

Still not sure why they dumped Scott Holroyd for awful one note Roger Howarth.

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9 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I thought Scott was gone before Goutman arrived. MADD is the one that got rid of him. She said he wasn't hot enough. 

 

MADD and Behr did a lot of damage to ATWT. Behr started on fire by bringing back Holden and ending the horrific Umberto story with a murder mystery. The ratings went back up and they were back in the top 3 soaps. That didn't last long as DeFreitas, Liz Hubbard and Allison Rice were all fired. The stories became very dull and drawn out. Ratings quickly dropped afterwards.

 

DeFreitas was originally let go by Valente. Behr brought him back about two years later. Goutman then made him the heavy to Ben and Denise (I remember the forced attempts by some of the soap press to claim that Andy faking paralysis was clever because John had done it too - ha), and soon after Sheffer arrived, DeFrietas was fired again. Given Sheffer's obsession for "men with balls," I wouldn't be surprised if he felt Andy was too puny and weak so therefore had no place on the canvas compared to his nasty, mushmouthed thugs like Craig and Dusty. And since Goutman didn't give a [!@#$%^&*] about the show's history or anything but his own ego, Andy never came back. 

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Then it was MADD with Valente that let him go. i clearly remember that quote from MADD about Scott. I also thought he had left after the Denise story with Behr in charge.

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3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Then it was MADD with Valente that let him go. i clearly remember that quote from MADD about Scott. I also thought he had left after the Denise story with Behr in charge.

 

Valente was producer before MADD - she fired Valente. DeFrietas then came back, stayed about a year after Behr was fired. She was in charge at P&G through Behr until P&G dumped her around the mid 00s. So she probably did have some involvement in his exit. But he did come back during her tenure as well.

 

I think Lucy Johnson may have made that quote.

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18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

DeFreitas was originally let go by Valente. Behr brought him back about two years later. Goutman then made him the heavy to Ben and Denise (I remember the forced attempts by some of the soap press to claim that Andy faking paralysis was clever because John had done it too - ha), and soon after Sheffer arrived, DeFrietas was fired again. Given Sheffer's obsession for "men with balls," I wouldn't be surprised if he felt Andy was too puny and weak so therefore had no place on the canvas compared to his nasty, mushmouthed thugs like Craig and Dusty. And since Goutman didn't give a [!@#$%^&*] about the show's history or anything but his own ego, Andy never came back. 

 

I agree with all of this, but I also felt they basically swapped Andy out for Jake McKinnon and Tom Eplin in terms of story. Andy should have been paired with Molly. He was gone in 2000, so they overlapped a bit but still ... Hogan likely had no use for him. DeFreitas and later Holroyd being dumped always pissed me off.

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