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23 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

That was what they did to a lot of the male "leads" in the '00s.

Remember when they had poor Mickey Horton perve out on his younger maid (Judi Evans..chewing as much scenery as Deas there...) after his wife was brutally "murdered," and the actor had the good sense to quit so he was replaced by that weird Edward Quatermaine replacement? At least Gautman  never had Bob perve on a younger woman or choke Nancy Hughes to death with a donut..so there is that!

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49 minutes ago, Mitch said:

Remember when they had poor Mickey Horton perve out on his younger maid (Judi Evans..chewing as much scenery as Deas there...) after his wife was brutally "murdered," and the actor had the good sense to quit so he was replaced by that weird Edward Quatermaine replacement? At least Gautman  never had Bob perve on a younger woman or choke Nancy Hughes to death with a donut..so there is that!

 

My God, somebody wrote that into existence?!

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30 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

My God, somebody wrote that into existence?!

 

The "Salem Stalker" storyline was nowhere near being DAYS' finest hour.

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1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

My God, somebody wrote that into existence?!

 

Yup, courtesy of James E Reilly.

 

Compared to the Salem Strangler and Salem Slasher, this was the pits.

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7 hours ago, Mitch said:

Remember when they had poor Mickey Horton perve out on his younger maid (Judi Evans..chewing as much scenery as Deas there...) after his wife was brutally "murdered," and the actor had the good sense to quit so he was replaced by that weird Edward Quatermaine replacement? At least Gautman  never had Bob perve on a younger woman or choke Nancy Hughes to death with a donut..so there is that!

 

Someone commented here at SON that William Bell and James Reilly were the two most influential writers in DAYS' history. That may be true, but it was for different reasons. Bell made the show a huge success after its first tepid year on the air, and turned it into a mesmerizing, adult, high-quality romantic drama. Reilly came aboard with his high camp and low-brow, gimmick plots, and completely and forever destroyed the show's integrity and credibility. Bell influenced the show upwards, Reilly drove it into the toilet and kept on flushing.

 

Goutman's destruction of ATWT was less obvious, more subtle, but the damage he did to Oakdale ended up crippling ATWT too.

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On 8/24/2018 at 4:03 PM, vetsoapfan said:

 

Someone commented here at SON that William Bell and James Reilly were the two most influential writers in DAYS' history. That may be true, but it was for different reasons. Bell made the show a huge success after its first tepid year on the air, and turned it into a mesmerizing, adult, high-quality romantic drama. Reilly came aboard with his high camp and low-brow, gimmick plots, and completely and forever destroyed the show's integrity and credibility. Bell influenced the show upwards, Reilly drove it into the toilet and kept on flushing.

 

Goutman's destruction of ATWT was less obvious, more subtle, but the damage he did to Oakdale ended up crippling ATWT too.

 

Can't quote this enough as far as James E. Reilly is concerned. He may have gotten the numbers up for a bit with the "car wreck" mentality, but it destroyed the very fabric of the show forever afterwards.

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^ Thank you for the April 1986 episode - vintage Marland and one month before the May sweep showcasing the Doug Cummings murder trial.  But revisiting it, I was struck by the seemingly mundane exchange between Frannie and Sierra (about 29 minutes into the clip), where Frannie hoped that they could become good friends.  A simple, understated scene of friendship-building swirled by much meatier story lines.  It is a credit to Marland that their friendship did develop in 86 and by the time they ran into each other in London at the end of the year, their scenes seemed so organic.

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23 minutes ago, Limenade said:

^ Thank you for the April 1986 episode - vintage Marland and one month before the May sweep showcasing the Doug Cummings murder trial.  But revisiting it, I was struck by the seemingly mundane exchange between Frannie and Sierra (about 29 minutes into the clip), where Frannie hoped that they could become good friends.  A simple, understated scene of friendship-building swirled by much meatier story lines.  It is a credit to Marland that their friendship did develop in 86 and by the time they ran into each other in London at the end of the year, their scenes seemed so organic.

 

It made a lot of sense since both were taking courses at Oakdale University (Sierra was pre-med, Frannie was a psychology major) so they had reason to be in each other's orbit.  I think one had even mentioned seeing the other around campus sometimes.

Marland constructed brief, simple scenes that could be built upon.  I don't know why we don't see that with today's soaps.

The Casey Peretti character was built off of those types of simple exchanges.  Also that same year, it was interesting to look back at how some simple, flirty exchanges between Barbara and Tonio would lead to a full-blown affair later on when Sierra and Tonio's marriage began to crater.

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I was going over Craig's profile on SC... specifically his dating history...

 

Have you ever realized that throughout his stints in Oakdale (spanning all four actors), Craig Montgomery has been romantically involved with:

- 1 trio of sisters (Iva, Ellie and Meg Snyder)

- 3 pairs of sisters (Betsy and Emily Stewart; Lucinda Walsh and Samantha Markham; Carly Tenney and Rosanna Cabot)

- 3 mother-daughter pairs (Lucinda Walsh and Sierra Esteban; Barbara Ryan and Jennifer Munson; and worst of all... Betsy Stewart and Dani Androrpoulos).

 

I guess he really liked the Snyder, Stewart, Walters, Washburn and Ryan genes. 

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