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15 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

 

I actually liked Luann wasn't fired after season 4 because she was on an island without her mean girl group.  And Carole and Heather called her out on her pot stirring....and Luann had to play nice.

 

I miss Carole for one reason..and that is the way she effortlessly would drag Luann...she did it better than Bethenny ever did.  

 

For a long time I really disliked Carole because she was so nasty to Luann. She didn't like that Lu referred to Adam as 'Sonja young' but hey. The truth hurts! Carole always thought she was miles better than the other women. She was more than happy to watch Bethenny go Cujo on Luann, Jules, Sonja, etc., until it got turned on her.

 

Having said all that (!) Carole should have returned with Heather this season IMO! No more B to gaslight her. She and Heather would have balanced out the Leah/OG crazy.

 

ETA: Has anyone noticed that in Luann's talking head this season, you can clearly see Tom's penthouse behind her? 

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Hey y'all I'm back, did you miss me? (LOL, doing my best Carolyn Hinsey from Soap Opera Digest impression). Ooh Lordy, been swamped at work, then went on vacation, then came back to more work. No time to catch up on my favorite thread

 

I'm loving the discussions here so I'll just add my +1's to certain points in particular.... 

 

NJ Reunion: I do think Jennifer had some great and funny moments. However, at times she goes for the jugular and is just nasty to be nasty. She's trying to be this 4th wall breaker, showing us viewers what "really" happens (i.e. Melissa's fake storylines; Marge being the source of the Evan secret, which fell flat.). That said, she has given us more than I ever expected from her, as she was so unlikable in her first year. And I love her family dynamic. So overall, she gets top reviews.  I really didn't mind the Marge/Melissa/Jackie alliance. I didn't find them to be "evil" or nefarious or anything, but rather friends sticking up for one another, as so many housewives do during contentious arguments (see: Beverly Hills cast the last two seasons; see: NYC Season 4 reunion) 

 

Beverly Hills:  Oh yes, we hate to love this show, but it's bringing it this year. And Garcelle is BOSS. I've loved these first few episodes, with Garcelle as the Greek Chorus. She is so effortless and I am loving her presence. Added bonus: Kyle and Rinna, two wannabee queens are terrified of her. They're probably secretly afraid Black Twitter will come for their asses if they say anything out of line. I love seeing Garcelle take Rinna to task for being a sh-t friend and a sh-t person in general. 

 

I love production's shade towards Erotika. This pretty mess of a scandal will be delicious to watch unfold. 

 

@Cat You got that right about Dorit - is she the new Terri DeMarco? A non-motherf*cking factor?  (Side note: a big NO to Evelyn Lozada joining!) Perhaps she'll cause a stir when she questions Erika's involvement in the Tom fiasco. 

 

@DaytimeFan I'm with you on newbie Crystal. We barely know her yet and she's coming too hard too fast on Sutton. I guess she took notes and thought she has to jump right into the mix in order to make a splash, but it comes off as Mean Girlish. Hoping to get in good with the Coven? 

 

Sutton is the resident basket case this season I guess. She was giving me Shannon Beador vibes on this past week's episode. Pull it together girl, and I hope your buddy Garcelle gives you a lesson on your white privilege. 

 

Kathy freaking Hilton! I am living for her! OMG, by far the BEST of the Richards sisters! Once again, Kyle is overshadowed, LOL. Kathy is so quirky and funny and gives no effs and I enjoy every minute of her. LOL at her looking directly at the camera and saying she can't see anything. 

 

New York: I am *not* looking forward to seeing the return of Season Four LuAnn. I haven't watched this week's episode yet. We've seen her grow and evolve over the years, so regressing to her classist ways is not something I want to see. 

 

Re: Leah. Yes, these episodes have shown just how desperate she is to have her moments and be the star, and she looks like a total jackass. LOL at her Vow of Silence being cut short because no one gave a fig (in fact, they were probably grateful she was quiet).  I love seeing the return of Heather and she took Leah/Luann's interogation in stride and was so matter-of-fact, owning what she said and explaining why she said it. 'Tis a pity she decided to bow out of the show (thanks, "woke" Leah). 

 

Sonja's drunken outbursts are half funny and half sad. She needs help financially and mentally. She is so stuck in the past, it's slowly killing her inside. I still enjoy her and think she's probably the most genuine of the NYC OG's (okay, she came in S3), but she has serious issues that's harming no one but herself. 

 

Potomac: Yaaaaaaaaass! So glad Bravo is cranking this show out so early!  RHOC who?   Team Grande Dame/Ashley.  I love seeing two former enemies become so tight now. I was howling at them as they both watched an episode of RHOA some months back to do commentary. Karen & Ashley bounce off each other very well.  Meanwhile, I'm happy to see anyone come for Gizelle, even crusty ol' Dr. Wendy.  And I see Candyass has learned nothing from her altercation with Monique. Who's the real Hood Rat? 

 

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1 hour ago, Cat said:

The problem with Luann is that she gets humbled by a series of events and lets it all hang out for a while. And we get Lu. Then she gets a massive boost to her self-esteem, remembers that she is on a TV show and it's like "I'm back!! Back on top where I belong!"  That's when The Countess re-emerges.

 

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It's a little Jeckel & Hyde -- the woman she was (and prob felt a little ashamed of when she married the count) vs. the woman of high status she always wanted to be.

 

It's disappointing. If anything, she probably still wants to be the Count's husband and maintain that type of lifestyle she had.

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9 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Re: Leah. Yes, these episodes have shown just how desperate she is to have her moments and be the star, and she looks like a total jackass. LOL at her Vow of Silence being cut short because no one gave a fig (in fact, they were probably grateful she was quiet).  I love seeing the return of Heather and she took Leah/Luann's interogation in stride and was so matter-of-fact, owning what she said and explaining why she said it. 'Tis a pity she decided to bow out of the show (thanks, "woke" Leah). 

 

Sonja's drunken outbursts are half funny and half sad. She needs help financially and mentally. She is so stuck in the past, it's slowly killing her inside. I still enjoy her and think she's probably the most genuine of the NYC OG's (okay, she came in S3), but she has serious issues that's harming no one but herself. 

Ha at the bold.

 

I like Sonja too, but I do worry that she could heading for tragedy.

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12 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Hey y'all I'm back, did you miss me? (LOL, doing my best Carolyn Hinsey from Soap Opera Digest impression). Ooh Lordy, been swamped at work, then went on vacation, then came back to more work. No time to catch up on my favorite thread

 

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Your Carolyn Hinsey reference took me BACK! Remember when SOD fired her ass because she a considered a truly awful human being with serious anger management issues and a host of NDAs? Good times!

 

Couldn't agree more with everything you wrote. You returned from work/life/vacation at the perfect moment. BH and NY are starting to pick up speed, and I can hear Potomac revving up around the corner...

 

13 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

 

It's disappointing. If anything, she probably still wants to be the Count's husband and maintain that type of lifestyle she had.

 

That's exactly what it is, and in that, she really is not so different from Sonja.

 

The Count gave her a privileged lifestyle and, more importantly, aristocratic status which she misses and has been unable replicate post-divorce. She thought Tom was going to give her that UES life again, but we all know what happened with that.

 

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7 hours ago, Cat said:

@Taoboi @Faulkner @Liberty City The problem with Luann is that she gets humbled by a series of events and lets it all hang out for a while. And we get Lu. Then she gets a massive boost to her self-esteem, remembers that she is on a TV show and it's like "I'm back!! Back on top where I belong!"  That's when The Countess re-emerges.

 

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It's a little Jeckel & Hyde -- the woman she was (and prob felt a little ashamed of when she married the count) vs. the woman of high status she always wanted to be.

You literally summed up Luann flawlessly.

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21 hours ago, Cat said:

That's exactly what it is, and in that, she really is not so different from Sonja.

 

The Count gave her a privileged lifestyle and, more importantly, aristocratic status which she misses and has been unable replicate post-divorce. She thought Tom was going to give her that UES life again, but we all know what happened with that.

 

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"I'm going to kill you."

Not a good look, Countess. Not a good look.

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On 6/5/2021 at 1:59 PM, Liberty City said:

 

"I'm going to kill you."

Not a good look, Countess. Not a good look.

 

Not a great look -- but technically it was said while inebriated and in handcuffs. Sometimes we babble stupid sh!t when we're drunk. I don't think Luann had any intention of killing the officer, or anybody for that matter. But I'm also aware non-famous people have been gunned down for less.

 

 

55 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Contracts for The Real Housewives of Orange County go out next week; both Heather Dubrow and Tamra Judge are in-talks to be joining the cast of season 16.

 

This is a good start. Heather Dubrow will eat Braunwyn for breakfast. Speaking of Brown Wind, Bravo should really consider letting her, Kelly Dodd and Elizabeth Vargas go. I wouldn't mind Tamra and Heather skewering BW's contrived pretentious posing, though, before despatching her. BTW, I'm still bummed we got no 'It was great but time to go' post from the Rage Monster.

 

Basically, Bravo needs to let OC rest longer and make some astute choices before they rush into filming. But they won't.

 

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Vicki back. I know that's controversial, and she's probably on Bravo's No Hire blacklist anyway.

 

 

On 6/4/2021 at 7:30 PM, FrenchBug82 said:

I think the Ghislaine Maxwell connection means we are not going to ever see Carole again on TV, Bethanny or not.
Fairly or not, I don't know but that's way too radioactive.

 

I forgot about the Ghislaine connection (Side note: maybe this is why we don't see George Clooney in many movies anymore? He seemed to like dating escort girls once upon a time). So is this why Carole was not asked back but Heather was? I just assumed it's because Carole and Andy Cohen fell out because he had Bethenny's back during S10 reunion.

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11 minutes ago, Cat said:

Not a great look -- but technically it was said while inebriated and in handcuffs. Sometimes we babble stupid sh!t when we're drunk. I don't think Luann had any intention of killing the officer, or anybody for that matter. But I'm also aware non-famous people have been gunned down for less.

 

From what I'm aware of those who get drunk (as I don't drink) it relieves your inhibitions, but, did the cop really know she wouldn't kill him? It doesn't excuse her threatening someone.

 

12 minutes ago, Cat said:

This is a good start. Heather Dubrow will eat Braunwyn for breakfast. Speaking of Brown Wind, Bravo should really consider letting her, Kelly Dodd and Elizabeth Vargas go. I wouldn't mind Tamra and Heather skewering BW's contrived pretentious posing, though, before despatching her. BTW, I'm still bummed we got no 'It was great but time to go' post from the Rage Monster.

 

Basically, Bravo needs to let OC rest longer and make some astute choices before they rush into filming. But they won't.

 

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Vicki back. I know that's controversial, and she's probably on Bravo's No Hire blacklist anyway.

 

Dubrow would give us more iconic moments, like defiled cake, etc. I liked Braunwyn her first season (what I saw of it), but, from the clips I saw of her second go-round,  she was different.

 

Honestly, I do think it's too early for Orange County to begin production again... but, am interested in seeing the decision Bravo makes, and am hoping they do shake things up effectively.

 

Meh. Vicki got her casserole, so her time was done. 

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I'm glad to hear they're trying to lure back Tamra and Heather. Tamra is a necessary evil on this franchise, and the fact that she still had so many connections to last season's drama proves they were unwise to cut her loose. Heather is a delicious ice queen, similar to SLC's Lisa Barlow. I forget why Jeff Lewis hates her, but she brings good drama, whether she's in a supporting role or a lead. 

 

What's the tea on OC otherwise? I thought Braunwyn already announced her departure. 

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1 hour ago, Gray Bunny said:

I'm glad to hear they're trying to lure back Tamra and Heather. Tamra is a necessary evil on this franchise, and the fact that she still had so many connections to last season's drama proves they were unwise to cut her loose. Heather is a delicious ice queen, similar to SLC's Lisa Barlow. I forget why Jeff Lewis hates her, but she brings good drama, whether she's in a supporting role or a lead. 

 

What's the tea on OC otherwise? I thought Braunwyn already announced her departure. 

 

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She did?? I completely missed that! 

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Jeff Lewis hates Heather because he is up Shannon's ass. I wasn't crazy about Heather by the time she left but, in hindsight, she was 100% right about Kelly. Since she left, RHOC has struggled to find its footing, and I think she is long overdue a return.

 

 

ETA: With the exception of Heather Dubrow, they're all kind of morphing into the same blonde (pic below)!

 

This reminds me of @Cheap21 opening post on this thread 157 years ago: "Couldnt get into the Orange County. Too many blondes and fake boobs."

 

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4 hours ago, Cat said:

So is this why Carole was not asked back but Heather was? I just assumed it's because Carole and Andy Cohen fell out because he had Bethenny's back during S10 reunion.


I think the latter is indeed the most immediate reason. Even without Maxwell, I don't think Cohen OR Carole would be interested anyway

But the Maxwell thing is why it is neither in their nor in HER interest for her to be in the public spotlight at all. So we can be sure that even if they reconciled - and it has happened with others who left bitterly - I doubt she'd be back on-screen.

As for Clooney, his slowing career predates the Epstein stuff 
He had stopped taking on almost any projects from a while back - around time he got married, I'd say. Why would he? He is rich, happy. Lives in Europe. Never got the vibe from him that acting was in his blood the way some other actors give the vibe they want to keep working until their last breath.
He just lives la dolce vita.

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