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13 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

Did Karen tell her that? 

 

In so many words, yes!

 

 

Possible SLC taglines!

 

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20 minutes ago, Chris B said:

@Taoboi I hope this ATL trailer drops ASAP. We know bits here and there but I’m still confused about the main focus because we don’t know the cast. So far on both trips you have the core four plus Marlo, Tanya (well only first trip for her), Shamea, Faylynn and Latoya. With 9 women I'm curious who has peaches, who is an official friend and who is just a guest. I want that cast photo more than I do a trailer lol. 

I agree. The amount of women that has been filming it sounds like RHOA Season 6 (and RHOM S2 which I'm currently binging) where you have the main cast who are dynamic alone and THEN all of these recurring characters that add even more spark. The running rumor is that we might even get SEVEN housewives. 

 

But yes, like you, I NEEEEED the cast photo. Especially given all the drama surrounding Cynthia's wedding and it not being production filmed after all that built-up. So...does Cynthia get a peach or...?

 

But I would love if they dropped it tomorrow. I am thinking Wednesday if we are lucky and Friday at the latest.

 

ETA: Oh, second cast trip got revealed: NOLA. 

8 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

 

In so many words, yes!

 

 

Possible SLC taglines!

 

Jen I love you, but that's MELBOURNE's Gina tagline!!! Hopefully if she uses it, she says it with flare.

 

I love Whitney and Lisa if true. Mary is meh.

 

And Heather I might like depending on how she says it. Same with Meredith.

 

I am looking forward to this too. 

 

And if we play our cards right, we might have FOUR (okay THREE since RHOP reunion will be going on)  Housewives show running at the same time again. 

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1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

POTOMAC

 

And I start with LA VIVA LA DAME!!! I knew I would be heated with those hoes for coming for you. But I should have known...LA DAME VICTORIOUS!!! They thought they were going to keep on her neck. Well...THEY WERE GONNA LEARN TODAY!!! lol.

 

KAREN. I LOVE HER. Karen has really been the MVP this season so far. This is definitely her defining season. She ain't just words, hunni!!! She ACTS. Her words and her actions connect and they have been and continue to be understanding. And she is always fascinating to watch. And this episode gave so much (and while I am mentioning it...go watch the after show where she really goes in on Wendy...and T'Challa lol). You saw her with Ray and discussing their feelings. You saw her attempt to support Monique and Candiace. You saw her speak the truth to Candiace. You saw her gather Wendy all the way together. Karen is smart and knew why Wendy was there while her and Candiace talked. Wendy (like Karen said in the after show) was just there to try to check her and La Dame was not having it. Heck, La Dame looked like she was about to take a page from La Kane of AMC legend and pull a famous Erica Kane slap on her at one point. LOL!!!

 

Karen is just coming across so real for me. And I am going to say...REALLY, RAY!!!! I guess it makes sense. So the age difference was the problem with them. But...they have been together for 23 years. So I hope they can continue to grow since it is clear that Karen for real loves her man. I was happy to see in the end that he held her hand. I was about to go off at first when he pulled his hand away, but thankfully he finally grabbed it. I hope they keep at it and sees that while he might not like how Karen is changing, Ray will still love these new parts of her...which are just old parts of her developing more. She is still Karen. Just love her. Love is hard to find and he has it and hopefully won't just throw it away.

 

Meanwhile, I knew that comment was going to come back and bite her!!! I hope Monique talk to her before she jump to conclusions. Karen meant that IF IT WAS HER, not CANDIACE SHOULD PRESS CHARGES ON HER. YES, there is a difference in the two. I can't believe people are running with that. Ugh. Oh, well. I also loved La Dame reading Candiace. She did it in a friend way and good job. I simply wished Candiace had heard what she was trying to say. 1)She ain't a victim and her mouth got her popped 2)she is her friend 3) she is Monqiue's friend 4) who had Candiace back last year even when she was in the wrong so 5)who has Monique's back now. And most importantly 'Let me tell you something, Young Woman...' is code for 'let me get you together for thinking you were about to come for your Elder' and that was the tone Karen had and THAT sent me. 

 

Wow. 3 paragraphs on Karen. lol. Well I am about to sit down for some writing stuff after this. But this should show how important Karen has been...is...and CONTINUES to be. Call it the La Dame Effect!!!

 

I keep saying...this is La Dame's world and those heffas are just revolving around it. 😜 

 

I look forward to Round 2 of Karen dragging Wendy some more next week. 

 

WENDY. BABYGIRL, NO, NO, NO!!! LA DAME AIN'T THE ONE YOU WANT, BOOBOO!!! And I see next week, you try it AGAIN!!! And La Dame is going to DRAGGGGG YOU again. She ain't the one you want. 

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Cuz La Dame will let you know...and she started to...and she DEFINITELY DID on the aftershow...no, no. :) And it is a shame really. I liked Wine with Wendy. I loved what she was saying. Especially with the election a week away (and I voted). I really have taken her words to heart because going forward, I will be watching what my local government are doing now in a way that I did not before. I am really interested in the Board of Education race here since I took a chance on a teacher though both of the nomination were intriguing. I really want education to do better. But let me not get distracted hehe, Wendy's solo scenes are sound. Her husband is FOINE!!! And I understand as Candiace's BFF, she will have her back, but she really is not being a good friend if she is not only not seeing Candiace's part in it, but she is egging it on which is why she went downstairs during Karen/Candiace's talk. She knows Candiace looks up to La Dame as the mother she does not have and will take La Dame's advice to heart. Can't have that since she clearly does not like La Dame (and the feeling is mutual). Clearly, she is using the fight to cause a wedge between the two. But hey...Wendy is already showing herself to be a hypocrite with the fight then so what is one more thing, right? Other than her solo scenes and family scenes, Wendy continued to be a waste of a spot. Sorry, not sorry.

 

 

Love every word of this flawless post about LA GRANDE DAME. I really despise Wendy for what she's been trying to do to Karen, but Karen can more than hold her own as she said Wendy might be educated but she sure was looking ignorant during that moment with Candiace.

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13 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

Love every word of this flawless post about LA GRANDE DAME. I really despise Wendy for what she's been trying to do to Karen, but Karen can more than hold her own as she said Wendy might be educated but she sure was looking ignorant during that moment with Candiace.

Thank you!!! La Dame has been coming out so well this year on the show and in real life with her getting airtime on tv to sell her perfume. I cannot believe how she has so turned her life around before the audience's eyes and show just about everything as a Housewife should. Given how this year has been, I find it truly inspiring as of late. 

 

Yes, the doctor was looking ignorant. And got called out AS SHE SHOULD. I am just sad that Candiace was not getting what Karen was trying to say.

 

I don't know if YT is blocked where you are, but Karen's interview on the after show about it was very informative and if you can watch it, I definitely recommend...if only for more dragging of Doctor Wendy. :)

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1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

Thank you!!! La Dame has been coming out so well this year on the show and in real life with her getting airtime on tv to sell her perfume. I cannot believe how she has so turned her life around before the audience's eyes and show just about everything as a Housewife should. Given how this year has been, I find it truly inspiring as of late. 

 

Yes, the doctor was looking ignorant. And got called out AS SHE SHOULD. I am just sad that Candiace was not getting what Karen was trying to say.

 

I don't know if YT is blocked where you are, but Karen's interview on the after show about it was very informative and if you can watch it, I definitely recommend...if only for more dragging of Doctor Wendy. :)


Can I also just say that I really think it is the height of pretension for someone who doesn’t provide care to patients (be they physician, dentist or psychologist) to refer to themselves as a doctor. 


Wendy is a doctor of philosophy. That is an incredible academic achievement, but that’s also what the post nominal letters Ph.D stand for. You don’t want a Ph.D attempting a tracheotomy. 

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Karen did not hesitate or deviate!

 

Candiace: You've made excuses for Monique. You have coddled Monique. You are choosing a side.

Karen: No.

Candiace: What I need to hear from you is that you understand that what Monique did was wrong. It is confusing to me that seeing what you saw, that you can still be this soft.

Karen: One of the things that I know about you, Candiace, is that you are brilliant, your mind is just so powerful -- but so is your mouth. I'm a little insulted that you continuously return to say that I should be against Monique. Let me tell you, young woman, that I coddled you a year ago. I protected you a year ago. I had your back. When I was holding you down, I didn't always agree with what you had done or said to others. And I am doing no more for my friend Monique than I did for you. Monique did a horrendous thing, and I told her she needed help. And I will walk with her hand-in-hand. If the shoes were reversed, I would do the same thing for you. So, as much as I can be a loving, big sister or auntie to you, I will not be told what to say or think.

 

I find it ironic that literally NOBODY has a problem with Ashley having Monique's back. Ashley is still invited to all the events and on cordial terms with everyone. So why is Karen different? Why are they trying to make an example out of her?

 

Wendy... sigh. Social media and Bravo seem to love her, and I like her family and political engagement. But she is working too hard to keep this fight alive. She is all up in it and righteous and acting like she is deeply involved -- when she wasn't even around last year when the seeds were being sown! She really wants to Be Seen in this storyline. Her angle from the beginning has been anti-Karen, and that is also her angle with this fight, to target Karen as the 'bad friend.'

 

Candiace is eagerly playing the traumatized victim role. Obvs a physical altercation shakes you for days, if not weeks afterwards. It takes time to process the feelings of anger and fear. Right now I am not sensing fear with Ms Candiace, but I am sensing a fair amount of self-righteousness and smugness (Not saying she isn't traumatized, but that doesn't mean she can't also capitalize on an opportunity). She has been jonesing for a confrontation with Monique since before the season started. She helped bring this altercation into the middle of the group. Now she is demanding that her friends pick her side. Has she thought about how all this might be affecting them? 

 

Candiace had a face like one of Michael Darby's pinched bottoms when she found out Monique was countersuing.

 

Monique is out, isn't she? I cannot see her surviving beyond this season, especially if nobody will film with her.

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I don't buy Karen's marriage storyline for one second. It all reeks of a storyline cooked up for the show since she didn't do much last year. I know most people think she walks on water, but I find her "grande dame" act to be just that. IT may also be that I revisited the first season where she was awful so I don't buy this Lady Bountiful routine. I do think there are moments when she is wonderful (telling the women they needed to be more compassionate to wig-impaired Katie is a highlight; bringing up last year with C and A) but like Gizelle's current relationship, I'm skeptical and not accepting it. I'm willing to be wrong, but I can't square season one Karen with the wise yoda woman she's presenting herself this season. I also think it's telling that fans seem to "worship" Karen, but Bravo doesn't do much with her outside of the show. I wonder if Karen is a Shannon who is a terror behind the scenes. 

 

Karen has a point about Candaice/Ashley last year, but I always find people who remain neutral do the most damage. These tend to be the same people who say "I don't do politics." Monique's annoyance that they won't let her show her change just tells me she didn't change. No one has to give her a chance to show change when she acted violently especially when it's mainly about you getting seats in an oversold event. It's not up to them to make the effort; it's up to Monique, and clearly, Monique is not willing to do the work. Ms. Neutral is smart enough to know that if she answered the "What would you do?" question, it would be a plot point. She could have remained truly neutral, and said, "Candaice, only you know how to handle this situation, and I will support any decision you make." She knew she'd get airtime if she answered.

 

I would never denigrate Wendy for being educated, or for being a doctor. She put in a lot of hard work, and that is a major accomplishment. She didn't just marry a much older man to get status (that may seem like a dig at Karen but it was unintentional as I was thinking of RHOBH). She worked to get where she's at today and she should call herself Doctor any chance she gets. I would if I had the same education. If Wendy were coming after Gizelle, viewers would be cheering her in the streets. 

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@taoboi  I read an Insta post where Monique made peace with how Karen felt, appreciated her honesty and its all good in the hood between the 2.  She has no ill feelings towards Karen. 

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5 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

Word on the street is Kathy Hilton will be an official “friend of” this next season of RHOBH. 


People didn’t say friend so I’m wondering if she might be able to snag a diamond in the end. I just hate that Kathy is joining at a time Kim isn’t on. Based on what we know, this is the most boring time in the past 10 years they could’ve added her. Imagine Kathy in seasons 2-3 or season 5! That would’ve been New Jersey levels of fire. It seems like Kathy and Kyle are getting along fine now so we will see what she brings. I just hope we get some La Toya Jackson sightings. Kathy and La Toya had excellent chemistry on Life with La Toya. 
 

The one thing I do love about the upcoming season of Beverly Hills is that it looks like it won’t all be spoiled before we see it. The newbie isn’t directly in the spotlight which I think will give her that Sutton allure where we have to wait and see. I don’t want to know everything beforehand which is draining by the time the show airs. This is another reason New York always work. We never know what they have going on and we don’t need to!

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On 10/26/2020 at 2:01 AM, DaytimeFan said:


Monique filing a criminal complaint against Candiace was simply based on good legal advice. The best defence is often to go on the offensive. When the DA’s office looked at an unedited tape, they dismissed the charges against both of them. 

 


I haven’t liked Wendy from the first episode and tonight’s show really reinforces that dislike for all the reasons you listed above. What a hypocrite. 
 

I was very glad Karen did not back down. She was 100% right and has been consistent with holding Monique accountable, as the flashback showed crystal clearly. Candiace is playing the game of wanting to make Karen choose and to shame her.

Agreed with all of this. I have never warmed too Wendy at all and if she keeps going the way she is, I don’t see that changing.

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11 hours ago, Cat said:

Monique is out, isn't she? I cannot see her surviving beyond this season, especially if nobody will film with her.

 

Monique has Ashley and Karen who will film with her going forward. 

 

It won't be hard for production to strong arm Wendy or Robyn into filming with Monique seeing as both of them are in financial strife and won't put up much a fight if push comes to shove. 

 

Gizelle is a blowhard and says she'll never film with Monique again, but I doubt it. Gizzy needs Monique on the show because as long as Monique is there, Gizzy has someone to rival with outside of Karen, thus further allowing her to keep her skeletons in her closet. 

 

Candaice is the one that is refusing to film with Monique going forward, but I don't think that will hold much clout come time of contract renewals. I personally think that by Candaice putting this ultimatum out there, it'll force the network's hand but not in a good way. For example, look at Nene. Look at LVP. Look at Dorinda. When they all pitched a fit about the network wanting to bring people they didn't care for back into the fold, it bit them all in the ass by having the network run them off in the end. 

 

If Monique remains calm, cool, and collected, which she normally does at the reunion, she'll come up with the upper hand. Going off the midseason trailer, I think it is gonna be hard for Candaice to play victim of violence when it appears that she and Broke Chris get buck with Ashley and Michael on the finale. 

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13 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

 

Monique has Ashley and Karen who will film with her going forward. 

 

It won't be hard for production to strong arm Wendy or Robyn into filming with Monique seeing as both of them are in financial strife and won't put up much a fight if push comes to shove. 

 

Gizelle is a blowhard and says she'll never film with Monique again, but I doubt it. Gizzy needs Monique on the show because as long as Monique is there, Gizzy has someone to rival with outside of Karen, thus further allowing her to keep her skeletons in her closet. 

 

Candaice is the one that is refusing to film with Monique going forward, but I don't think that will hold much clout come time of contract renewals. I personally think that by Candaice putting this ultimatum out there, it'll force the network's hand but not in a good way. For example, look at Nene. Look at LVP. Look at Dorinda. When they all pitched a fit about the network wanting to bring people they didn't care for back into the fold, it bit them all in the ass by having the network run them off in the end. 

 

If Monique remains calm, cool, and collected, which she normally does at the reunion, she'll come up with the upper hand. Going off the midseason trailer, I think it is gonna be hard for Candaice to play victim of violence when it appears that she and Broke Chris get buck with Ashley and Michael on the finale. 

 

Thank you for laying it out like that. Seeing Monique filming mostly alone on the show and After Show, it is hard not to shake the feeling that Gizelle has triumphed in getting Monique iced from the show -- kind of like the Manzos got Danielle iced from NJ, even though she was a fan favorite. I still feel like the deck is stacked against Mo, but I also recognize that production need her. Monique *IS* the only storyline this season.

 

The 3 major physical altercations last season and this season have one common denominator. I actually feel empathy for Candidacy because, like Monique, she has anger issues that she is not confronting. She is trying to temper that anger, but a lot of the other women are more than happy to push her buttons in order to achieve a desired result. Candiace's rage obvs stems from her dictatorial mother and feelings of powerlessness over her own life. So she acts confrontational in order to feel powerful.

 

Re: the bold. Wendy is in financial strife? 

 

14 hours ago, Chris B said:


People didn’t say friend so I’m wondering if she might be able to snag a diamond in the end. I just hate that Kathy is joining at a time Kim isn’t on. Based on what we know, this is the most boring time in the past 10 years they could’ve added her. Imagine Kathy in seasons 2-3 or season 5! That would’ve been New Jersey levels of fire. It seems like Kathy and Kyle are getting along fine now so we will see what she brings. I just hope we get some La Toya Jackson sightings. Kathy and La Toya had excellent chemistry on Life with La Toya. 
 

The one thing I do love about the upcoming season of Beverly Hills is that it looks like it won’t all be spoiled before we see it. The newbie isn’t directly in the spotlight which I think will give her that Sutton allure where we have to wait and see. I don’t want to know everything beforehand which is draining by the time the show airs. This is another reason New York always work. We never know what they have going on and we don’t need to!

 

Kathy seems especially close to Kim so we will prob see more of her. I do think you are right and Kathy will be there to pull a Faye and reinforce how 'wonderful' Kyle is. I enjoyed the glimpse of Kathy, Kris Jenner and Faye together at the charity auction last season because they looked like a power triumvirate. You know it must have intimidated the sh*t out of Rinna with her paltry charity bid.

 

I remember in S5 when Kim's daughter was getting married, Kathy was helping Kim organise the wedding outfits. Kyle showed up pretending to be involved, and Kathy could 👏 not 👏 even 👏 look 👏 at 👏her 👏. Every time Kaftan opined about Kim's outfit, Kathy would talk over her and steer Kim back to Kathy's choices, lol. This is the Kathy we want to see!

 

I hope you are right about BH keeping a lid on leaks. It has been egregious the past two years. Brandi was obviously flapping her gums on Twitter months before anything aired, but I'm sure she had the thumbs-up from production to build anticipation. And from a ratings POV, it did work.

 

I like the look of the newbie but I also hope Sutton will be back permanently.

 

 

Speaking of RHONY:

 

Heather is cited by Eboni as part of the main cast. This group is looking good!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cat said:

Speaking of RHONY:

 

Heather is cited by Eboni as part of the main cast. This group is looking good!

 

 

 

This makes me happy. Holla! 

 

And glad to see they're bringing back a former wife to mix with the veterans, versus building the show around Leah, as was rumored to be done. 

 

[Still holding out hope for some "friend of" scenes for Jill Zarin...] 

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