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On 8/14/2020 at 5:02 PM, Chris B said:

Personally I think Teddi is lying about the attacks. Every thing she posts on twitter gets ratioed and she knows that and purposely posts things to get a response. I’m sure some people said bad things (every celeb gets that), but I highly doubt everybody was talking about her family. I think she’s using it for sympathy and to maintain her diamond. 
 

Teddi and Kyle were on WWHL and Andy let both of them have it. He called Kyle out on her previous comments about Brandi being a liar, called Teddi out on her lies last season, accused them of being bi-phobic. It was a bad night and you could tell Andy wasn’t feeling them. Contrast that with the love fest for Garcelle and Sutton the previous week and him tweeting how their episode was the highest rated in 3 years. 
 

I think Kyle and Teddi are simply doing damage control because they aren’t well liked right now. I’m really curious how a season 11 will look if Denise, Garcelle and Sutton return as fan faves. Will Kyle and others play nice?

 

I don't doubt she is getting social media attacks. There are cray cray people out there.

 

I didn't think Andy was "letting them have it". It came across to me as him giving them an opportunity to clarify things. And I was surprised by their answers because they made sense. I still think Kyle has turned an ugly LVP like corner and she and Teddi  think they are very important. Moreso than the other ladies.

 

I don't understand why they didn't just shut the conversation about the alleged affair down. Just shut it down and not keep commenting about it. They were all outraged when accusations were made about drug use while filming. If they had refused to discuss it further on camera would there have been a story? Do the other HW shows bring such accusations against each other? I have only ever watched BH.

 

Rinna's (obviously coached? ) daughter's comment re: Garcelle to me show there is some major unhappiness going on in that household for Lisa at the present time. I had hopes for her during the breakfast with Denise.

 

Kyle, Rinna, and Erika have turned a dark corner. Teddi I think just wants to be in a clique. Any old clique will do.

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15 hours ago, Faulkner said:

I skipped S8 because work stuff had consumed my life around then (2016 - what a year that was), so I missed a lot of the discussion that obviously happened here in real time. Forgive me the rehash. 
 

Bethenny can kick rocks. I think she makes great reality TV (her Berkshires rant was sh!tty behavior but spellbinding to watch) and can be genuinely hilarious and fiercely perceptive. But nope... I could only tolerate her if she could accept not always being the (hypocritical) voice of God on the show. Which would mean a personality transplant.

 

Carole....pffft, lint.

 

It’s just funny that sweet little Jules was the one who sent B over the edge, but I guess her presence (beautiful, younger, dark-haired, rich Jewish girl who was thin) triggered her. She wasn’t an unsympathetic Kelly Bensimon whom Bethenny could just steamroll. And Bethenny saying Jules reminded her of her mother was such a diversion. Bethenny deploys her fücked-up childhood so manipulatively.

No worries! I don't mind rehashing, I just don't want you all thinking I'm some crazed anti-Bethenny stan still obsessed with hating on her 4 years later, lol!

 

I think Bethenny left on a personal high. S11 was a good season for her. I find her tolerable and actually fun, informative and interesting on Instagram, especially with her daughter. She is compelling reality tv for sure, and she brought something to the show (Greek chorus, voice of God) which is missed by many. But at her worst, that highly toxic narcissism, which would suck all the air out of the room, was out of control.

 

Her past was very much weaponized against the others, and she learned to manipulate at her mother's knee. For me, she is a fascinating psychological study, but I am grateful for the breather this year. 

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I think they should cancel BH. It’s just terrible and looks like it gets worse next week with Brandi shrieking what she did to Denise. 
I wouldn’t mind a season with the original cast (although I’ve had enough of Kyle to last me forever) I would be interested in an original cast season for NY and OC too.

 

Potomac is currently my favorite. I feel like most of the other franchises are stale. 

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22 hours ago, Cat said:

Oh man! I loved Dorinda's little sayings. One of my faves (which she told Jules in S8) was "Ramona is a dog that bites. I'll pat her on the ass, but I'm not touching her on the face."

 

I agree that Ramona is the OG of RHONY and that alone might save her. However  the hate for Ramona on Twitter ihas been real the last few weeks. I think both she and Dorinda are on the bubble. 

 

Without either of them on the show,  though, I think that would leave Luann unmoored. Sonja, too, to an extent, but Sonja is less of an introvert when it comes to interaction with newbies.

 

I don't see Jill coming back. I think she is still somewhat blackballed by the network  

 

 

I never really got past Bethenny's behaviour in S8. I've said it often on this thread so I'll try not to repeat myself, but I found her bullying of Jules, Sonja and Luann egregious.

 

The scene where Jules at the restaurant talked about her eating disorder and how she had fallen off the wagon, and Carole snd Bethenny were basically freaking out at her honesty was a standout. They couldn't handle how Jules took control of HER story for once, after they had thin-shamed her and tried to carjack the narrative. Considering the stories out there of their own food/body issues (the rumor was that Bethenny was on Adderall to keep her weight low, which may explain her constant rage back then), their attacks on Jules were v low. Carole was a bully's lackey, palling with the Alpha female, having them to go after her enemies, and cheering them on from the sidelines.

 

I also think when Jules called the women 'menopausal mamas,' that enraged Bethenny who always defined herself as the Young One. Hence we got a full season of FIBROIDS and blood on the pillow, because Bethenny wanted to remind everyone that she was still technically fertile and bleeding every full moon.

I also never got over Bethenny’s behavior in season 8. She was the definition of a mean girl and a bully. The next season she was in complete damage control mode, and I saw right through it. 

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Watching the Season 2 RHOP reunion right now. And it is interesting to see how far everyone has come. 

 

And Gizelle suuuuure was feeling herself sitting in the main seat. Liked Charisse still got her.

 

And yep...Watching Ashley here vs her in the new season so far. Night and day. She is so irritating here. Part of the reason I didn't mind her karma in Season 4. 

 

And Karen...the evolution to a true grande dame is just amazing.

 

@Faulkner, I love it when someone watches a past season and discuss here. As @Cat can attest to, I even go back and read for seasons I get around to watching that I never saw the first time. For me it was RHOM. Keep them coming.

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On 8/14/2020 at 2:48 PM, Chris B said:


He’s been more bold in these at home episodes and he makes it very obvious who he likes and doesn’t like. Both times Sutton was on her gushed so much about her and both times made sure to mention she was only a Friend due to issues with her ex and he even asked advice from Garcelle on how to get her ex on board for next season. They usually don’t admit when people are coming back. 
 

Similarly when Ramona was on a couple weeks ago he ate her up lol. I think Ramona could be in some danger. Kyle will be safe because she’s the last OG, but Teddi I think is going to be on her way out. 

Hmmmm...interesting.

 

On 8/15/2020 at 4:24 PM, Chatty Cakes said:

Did they stop airing this in the US? I haven’t seen it in years.

They did. I believe if I am not mistaken, they aired the first 3 seasons here. They still haven't aired Season 4 here.  And then after a very loooooooooooonnnnnnnnng hiatus they were planning on filming Season 5 this year before Corona hit. 

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2 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I also never got over Bethenny’s behavior in season 8. She was the definition of a mean girl and a bully. The next season she was in complete damage control mode, and I saw right through it. 

Yeah, I had a slightly more positive feeling about Bethenny until I watched S8. Dorinda’s S8 was pretty bad as well, but I was happy that Dorinda held Bethenny’s feet to the fire at the reunion.

 

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

 

@Faulkner, I love it when someone watches a past season and discuss here. As @Cat can attest to, I even go back and read for seasons I get around to watching that I never saw the first time. For me it was RHOM. Keep them coming.

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Thank you! I love getting people’s perspectives here. I just wish there was more available HW series on streaming (I want to see Melbourne or Jo’burg) for me to dig into.

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15 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Yeah, I had a slightly more positive feeling about Bethenny until I watched S8. Dorinda’s S8 was pretty bad as well, but I was happy that Dorinda held Bethenny’s feet to the fire at the reunion.

 

Thank you! I love getting people’s perspectives here. I just wish there was more available HW series on streaming (I want to see Melbourne or Jo’burg) for me to dig into.

Yeah...I might go looking on Dailymotion myself because it tends to pop up there often.

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  Definitely missing the gals.

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1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

Watching the Season 2 RHOP reunion right now. And it is interesting to see how far everyone has come. 

 

And Gizelle suuuuure was feeling herself sitting in the main seat. Liked Charisse still got her.

 

And yep...Watching Ashley here vs her in the new season so far. Night and day. She is so irritating here. Part of the reason I didn't mind her karma in Season 4. 

 

And Karen...the evolution to a true grande dame is just amazing.

 

@Faulkner, I love it when someone watches a past season and discuss here. As @Cat can attest to, I even go back and read for seasons I get around to watching that I never saw the first time. For me it was RHOM. Keep them coming.

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Hmmmm...interesting.

 

They did. I believe if I am not mistaken, they aired the first 3 seasons here. They still haven't aired Season 4 here.  And then after a very loooooooooooonnnnnnnnng hiatus they were planning on filming Season 5 this year before Corona hit. 

Thanks,  I enjoyed their first and second seasons.

I am enjoying Married at First Sight Australia right now. 

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4 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

Gizelle is so f--king annoying. She's the Lisa Rinna of Potomac

 

True but unlike Rinna, I don't see Gizelle getting away with her antics this year. Candiace already threw her under the bus about the plot to spread that lie. Monique and Karen are ready to eviscerate her come reunion time, and I expect Ashley to jump on board as well come time the Michael affair part 1000 pops up again. 

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4 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

 

True but unlike Rinna, I don't see Gizelle getting away with her antics this year. Candiace already threw her under the bus about the plot to spread that lie. Monique and Karen are ready to eviscerate her come reunion time, and I expect Ashley to jump on board as well come time the Michael affair part 1000 pops up again. 

 

Rinna is not necessarily getting away with her antics on BH this year either (thanks Garcelle + Denise!). But regarding Giza Rinna on Potomac, I always think "This year Gizelle will get exposed" and every year Gizelle ducks accountability and Andy continues hyping her up. By pitting Candiace against Monique, Giza has pretty effectively diverted attention from herself. So far. 

 

About last night's episode:

 

Gizelle's girls do not trust Daddy Chocolate and that is a red flag. I still think Gizelle is 'with Jamal' for a SL or to get her new house paid for.

 

I know it is early days with Wendy and she is still presenting herself to the group and the audience. I liked when she talked about her Igbo roots and her love of public policy -- you can tell she is proud and passionate about both. But there were times when I felt we were getting Wendy playing the role of 'Dr. Wendy.' Like at the sip-and-see where she tried (and failed) to start something with Karen (Karen moving away to start a convo with someone else

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). And when she stirred the pot with the fraught group dynamics. I don't even blame her for the latter 2 things -- production is def encouraging her to get oar in there. Probably the 'Dr Wendy' persona is a defense mechanism. She has done her homework and knows what happens when you reveal too much about yourself -- these women POUNCE. 

 

Seeing Karen defend Candiace (who on social media has said the indefensible and sought an alliance with Charrisse) makes me think that Candiace is not ok and Karen knows it and is protecting her. After decades of being gaslit and manipulated by her monstrous mother, Candiace has this rage lurking within her and the women, like sharks, can smell it. That's why they poke her. She is trying to keep it cool, and Chris is essentially her therapist at this point, talking her down. Last year, I thought Candiace was on something that ended up heightening her rage.

 

Monique was poking the Candy-bear at the sip-and-see but it's understandable. After allying herself with Charrisse, Candiace is now not to be trusted and Monique will not forgive that betrayal. 

 

Charrisse slithering her do-nothing vile self into that party and then sits there like a bump on a log -- doing f*ck all as usual. She gossips off-screen and thinks that's enough to get her back on the show permanently. As usual, she brings me nothing but a wet patch on a sofa.

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What did Jamal gift his daughters? Partnership in a restaurant? So strange. It was painful to watch the birthday dinner scene. 
 

i usually don’t like Ashley but I am warming to her a bit this season.

 

Why did Monique and Char Char fall out? 
 

Wendy is very accomplished, not sure why she needs the show. Why is the Grande Dame not impressed?

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5 minutes ago, Chatty Cakes said:

What did Jamal gift his daughters? Partnership in a restaurant? So strange. It was painful to watch the birthday dinner scene. 
 

i usually don’t like Ashley but I am warming to her a bit this season.

 

Why did Monique and Char Char fall out? 
 

Wendy is very accomplished, not sure why she needs the show. Why is the Grande Dame not impressed?

Yeah a restaurant that likely wont be around by the time they are old enough to work there

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