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Did Shannon say she breast fed her child til he or she was a little over 2 years old?  Where's Vickie?

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Why does everyone want Vicki? She was an absolute nightmare. I never liked her and the whole Brooks thing should have had her sued and fired. I didn't watch last season (except for reunion) so I don't know how the season went, but I was not crazy about the new women.

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17 minutes ago, chrisml said:

Why does everyone want Vicki? She was an absolute nightmare. I never liked her and the whole Brooks thing should have had her sued and fired. I didn't watch last season (except for reunion) so I don't know how the season went, but I was not crazy about the new women.

Vicki is the O.C. She’s always been unapologetically Vicki and even when she’s awful, I just accept that it’s Vicki. She’s extremely watchable.

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30 minutes ago, chrisml said:

Why does everyone want Vicki? She was an absolute nightmare. I never liked her and the whole Brooks thing should have had her sued and fired. I didn't watch last season (except for reunion) so I don't know how the season went, but I was not crazy about the new women.

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Tamra vs Kelly on Twitter,  Gina looking washed out with that hair color, and vicki demoted.

 

Season 14 is off to an eventful start 

 

 

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Because I have zero interest in Emily or Gina, I felt like there was too much focus on them.

 

Vicki was missed.

 

Shannon seems legitimately happy.

 

Tamra’s son is an idiot.

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14 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Tamra vs Kelly on Twitter,  Gina looking washed out with that hair color, and vicki demoted.

 

Season 14 is off to an eventful start 

 

 

Kelly demolished Tamra do bad that she deleted all her tweets lol. Told her that she is next to be fired after Vicki and let's see if Eddie sticks around without her Bravo paycheck! I died!

 

Overall I will say I welcome RHOC after BH, but it was a flat premiere. Keeping Gina and Emily was a mistake IMO. I've been lamenting the loss of glamour from the show and this was no different. Imagine if Lydia and Heather were around instead of Gina/Emily. The house porn and wealth would've taken this to another level. 

 

Kelly and Shannon were fabulous. Tamara's Trump feud story isn't appealing to me. Ryan has been making disgusting transphobic and racist remarks on Twitter for years. That she thought it was a good idea to feature him is shocking. And bravo gave him a talking head? Nope. Not interested. Braunwyn was EXCELLENT and the first promising HW since Peggy/Lydia. She seems fun, love all the kids and she seems like she lives a fabulous life. 

 

I will say it did feel very weird without Vicki, but mainly because you still had dead weight taking up so much screentime. Emily at least kinda fits even if she is dull, but there was far too much Gina for my liking. 

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That was a pretty ho-hum OC premiere for me. 

 

First of all, YES, Vicki is needed. Love her or hate her, she is an integral part of this franchise. To me, she centers the show and without her, it was just a bunch of fluff, especially with Emily, Gina, Braunwyn, etc. 

 

Braunwyn definitely shows promise and seems fun. I'm not here for the Brady Kids + Cousin Oliver's antics, but I hate kids in general, and when you have newbies, the kids are turnt up for the cameras so everything is hyped. Give 'em a couple years and they'll be so disinterested like Joe & Melissa's kids on NJ :)

 

Good for Shannon for dropping the weight and having a positive attitude! Much, much improved over her sorry pessimistic ass these past few years. Sadly, all that extra weight really aged her (just look at her first season!) but she's getting it back together. Kudos. 

 

Emily. Meh. 

 

Gina. Yikes. What is happening with this one? She seems to have taken on Shannon's weight gain and we're watching it as it happens. Her various talking heads show her getting larger. The peroxide hair is all sorts of wrong. She actually looks like a different person with the weight gain and hair. Almost like Meghan McCain... not a look I'd aspire to replicate.  Overall, Gina seems like a wreck both on and off screen. I guess she's this season's basket case. 

 

Kelly. Ugh. I've never been a huge fan of hers or her personality. Too much Kelly on this episode. She cannot carry this show. But if she gets white girl wasted in front of Vicki next week, at least that'll be good trainwreck TV. 

 

I don't know what the Twitter feud is, re: Kelly vs. Tamra.  What's the Cliffs Notes on that? 

 

Tamra is fine I guess. I always thought of her son as white trash, and seeing him as a Fox News-watchin' Trumpeter is all the confirmation I needed on that. I wonder how Eddie is doing, health-wise? He doesn't seem as muscular as he used to be. 

 

Overall, it was a very soft premiere and my interest only piqued when I saw next week's episode with Kelly being her sloppy self towards Vicki. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Chris B said:

Kelly demolished Tamra do bad that she deleted all her tweets lol. Told her that she is next to be fired after Vicki and let's see if Eddie sticks around without her Bravo paycheck! I died!

 

Overall I will say I welcome RHOC after BH, but it was a flat premiere. Keeping Gina and Emily was a mistake IMO. I've been lamenting the loss of glamour from the show and this was no different. Imagine if Lydia and Heather were around instead of Gina/Emily. The house porn and wealth would've taken this to another level. 

 

Kelly and Shannon were fabulous. Tamara's Trump feud story isn't appealing to me. Ryan has been making disgusting transphobic and racist remarks on Twitter for years. That she thought it was a good idea to feature him is shocking. And bravo gave him a talking head? Nope. Not interested. Braunwyn was EXCELLENT and the first promising HW since Peggy/Lydia. She seems fun, love all the kids and she seems like she lives a fabulous life. 

 

I will say it did feel very weird without Vicki, but mainly because you still had dead weight taking up so much screentime. Emily at least kinda fits even if she is dull, but there was far too much Gina for my liking. 

 

I would have dumped Gina and kept Emily.  Vicki will play a big part in he show...but OC, like NJ, has always been more family oriented...and Briana isn't on anymore and Mike doesn't want to be on...so I could see why she was demoted.

 

I like seeing the kids to reinforce my choice of not pro creating is a smart one lol

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1 hour ago, Gray Bunny said:

That was a pretty ho-hum OC premiere for me. 

 

First of all, YES, Vicki is needed. Love her or hate her, she is an integral part of this franchise. To me, she centers the show and without her, it was just a bunch of fluff, especially with Emily, Gina, Braunwyn, etc. 

 

Braunwyn definitely shows promise and seems fun. I'm not here for the Brady Kids + Cousin Oliver's antics, but I hate kids in general, and when you have newbies, the kids are turnt up for the cameras so everything is hyped. Give 'em a couple years and they'll be so disinterested like Joe & Melissa's kids on NJ :)

 

Good for Shannon for dropping the weight and having a positive attitude! Much, much improved over her sorry pessimistic ass these past few years. Sadly, all that extra weight really aged her (just look at her first season!) but she's getting it back together. Kudos. 

 

Emily. Meh. 

 

Gina. Yikes. What is happening with this one? She seems to have taken on Shannon's weight gain and we're watching it as it happens. Her various talking heads show her getting larger. The peroxide hair is all sorts of wrong. She actually looks like a different person with the weight gain and hair. Almost like Meghan McCain... not a look I'd aspire to replicate.  Overall, Gina seems like a wreck both on and off screen. I guess she's this season's basket case. 

 

Kelly. Ugh. I've never been a huge fan of hers or her personality. Too much Kelly on this episode. She cannot carry this show. But if she gets white girl wasted in front of Vicki next week, at least that'll be good trainwreck TV. 

 

I don't know what the Twitter feud is, re: Kelly vs. Tamra.  What's the Cliffs Notes on that? 

 

Tamra is fine I guess. I always thought of her son as white trash, and seeing him as a Fox News-watchin' Trumpeter is all the confirmation I needed on that. I wonder how Eddie is doing, health-wise? He doesn't seem as muscular as he used to be. 

 

Overall, it was a very soft premiere and my interest only piqued when I saw next week's episode with Kelly being her sloppy self towards Vicki. 

 

You took the words right out of my mouth! Vicki is a tentpole HW and her longstanding relationships with Tamra, Shannon and Kelly power the show. Without her there, what TF is the point of Kelly? She was being a giant a-hole grump, bitching and moaning about a HW who is no longer being featured. Basically, without Vicki, Kelly Dodd (who I am not the biggest fan of either) has no reason to breathe. Because unless Kelly is violently threatening somebody, she offers little to the franchise.

 

It makes me laugh reading @Chris B's account of the Kelly-Tamra Twitter fight, and Kelly thinking her word could get Tanra fired. AS IF! Sit DOWN, Kelly Dodd. Bravo did not demote Vicki Gunvalson to appease your sorry ass -- they demoted her because they are trying to cut OG salaries. (Also, Kelly needs to stop with the nose jobs which are chiselling her nose away to nothingness).

 

Ryan, a MAGA? We been knew. He's always struck me as someone painfully eager to blame others for his shortcomings. And that's what Trump legitimises and encourages on a daily basis. You're a shitty person? Must be some immigrant's fault! 

 

The role of Gina Kirchen Smurfin is now being played by Mamie van Doren:

 

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If i were not laid up because of a knee problem I would not have watched RHOC, but I watched, and I was bored out of my mind. I skipped the Ryan stuff (after reading about it here) because I'm just not listening to that garbage.  

 

Who is there to root for on this show? Gina is a drunk and could have killed someone. I'm supposed to feel for her? Emily has yet another emotionally abusive spouse. How is that entertaining?

 

Everything felt flat and produced/scripted. Kelly's trip to the cat village had me eye rolling.  I don't care about the new girl. Bronwyn I think. I don't want to see a woman who has seven kids. I loathe kids, and I will never understand why Bravo thinks viewers want to see brats running around their screen. 

 

I didn't miss Vicki because I find her to be a sociopath. I have never really liked RHOC because it's too much religion and republicanism for me, but with this cast, I just don't care about any of them.

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19 hours ago, chrisml said:

Who is there to root for on this show? Gina is a drunk and could have killed someone. I'm supposed to feel for her? Emily has yet another emotionally abusive spouse. How is that entertaining?

 

I have never really liked RHOC because it's too much religion and republicanism for me, but with this cast, I just don't care about any of them.

 

I agree. When I got into Housewives way back when in 2011, OC was the one that took me the longest to warm up to because, as you said of the current cast, there weren't many endearing castmembers to root for. This was the days of Vicki, Tamra, Gretchen, Jesus Jugs, and Peggy 1.0.  Once they brought on Heather and then Shannon (and Lizzie!) and got rid of Gretchen and JJ, I finally gave a damn about the ensemble. 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

 

I agree. When I got into Housewives way back when in 2011, OC was the one that took me the longest to warm up to because, as you said of the current cast, there weren't many endearing castmembers to root for. This was the days of Vicki, Tamra, Gretchen, Jesus Jugs, and Peggy 1.0.  Once they brought on Heather and then Shannon (and Lizzie!) and got rid of Gretchen and JJ, I finally gave a damn about the ensemble. 

 

 

 

That's funny, because I miss the days of Gretchen and Alexis.  I haven't been as into the OC the past few seasons like I was back in Seasons 5-9.  After Shannon's first season, it's slowly gone downhill for me.  Seasons 4-9 really were their golden era.

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THE OC: I think OC has the same problem as rhobh. I don't buy these women like each other. It feels as if Tamra and Shannon only forgave Vicki because they thought their jobs were dependent on it. I might like Kelly if she didn't come across as such a psycho and her scenes with her daughter seem scripted as well. Maybe they're not, but I don't buy them.

 

At last season's reunion, I remember thinking Gina was somewhat interesting for calling perpetual victim Shannon out on her stuff, but I completely forgot about Emily. I can't remember one thing she said or did. I think the cancer scam harmed the show because that's a horrible thing to come back from and how could you trust anything that comes out of Vicki's mouth? The people who seem to support Vicki are the ones that want Phaedra back on RHOA, but that woman should have beeb disbarred and jailed. The only reason to have Phaedra back is to have shirtless Apollo scenes.

 

On a side note, what happened to Terry Dubrow's face?

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Potomac

WHEN will Gizelle be called out on her hatred of Monique? It is so ugly, and so telling. She is deeply jealous of everything Monique has in her life, including a kind, supportive husband. I really like Monique this season and find it increasingly beyond the pale how Gizelle is trying  to 'bring down' a heavily pregnant woman.

 

Not here for Ashley giving Giz a free pass either! Ashley really has no friends on this show, but she cannot even admit it. And just when I feel sorry for her, she and the Cryptkeeper pull some fake sexy talk out of their asses. HORK.

 

I believe Katie would definitely be included in this year's reunion if something significant wasnt going on behind the scenes. It's clear something is off.

 

RHONY 

I already miss this show. 😪 It ended on a bittersweet note though. I have been a huge Dorinda fan since day one, but the bloom is coming off the rose. Calling Barbara a fat little turnip was outright mean. I personally thought Barbara was kind and funny and dont understand the animosity towards her. I know Luann was a self-involved PITA this season, but watching Dorinda go after her every episode wasn't edifying either. Dorinda explicitly target the weak links, as evidenced by her attacks on Sonja in seasons past and on Tinsley most recently. Not a great look.

 

 

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