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I can see what you're saying, but Dolly looks a helluva lot better than Heidi's going to look at her age.

Her breast implants are literally going to be hitting her knees.

Jackie Collins put it best: Heidi looks like a 40 year old, beautifully preserved, porn star.

Totally.

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And she looks fabulous when doing so. It's as if she goes through a list in her head before leaving her condo in Sierra Towers:

Diva style hat? Check!

Multiple diamond bangles? Check!

Large sunglasses? Check!

Lipstick on? Check!

Arms better than most 45 year old women? Check!

Alright, time to go shopping!

Luvs it! Joan is still one hot-ass diva

And I agree about Target vs. Walmart. It's so much cleaner. Walmart smells like urine.

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Luvs it! Joan is still one hot-ass diva

And I agree about Target vs. Walmart. It's so much cleaner. Walmart smells like urine.

Target is just better than Wal-Mart on so many levels. The products are nicer, the store is nicely designed, the employees seem much happier. It's just better.

Rock on Ms Joan! Save your bucks at Target and invest in some skin treatments!

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Some statistics from Wikipedia:

Douglas J. Dayton, one of the Dayton brothers, explained John Geisse's concept:

"We will offer high-quality merchandise at low margins, because we are cutting expenses. We would much rather do this than trumpet dramatic price cuts on cheap merchandise."

As a result, Target stores tend to attract younger and more educated and affluent customers than its competitors. Currently, the median Target shopper is 41 years old, which is the youngest of all major discount retailers that Target competes directly against. The median household income of Target's customer base is roughly $63,000 USD. Roughly 76% of Target customers are female, and more than 45% have children at home. About 80% have attended college and 48% have completed college. Ninety-seven percent of American consumers recognize the Target Bullseye logo.

In October 2008, Target announced plans to fight the perception that their products are more expensive than those of other discount retailers, such as Wal-Mart. The company planned to add perishables to their inventory, cut back on discretionary items, and spend three-quarters of their marketing budget on advertising that emphasizes value and includes actual prices of items featured in ads. Target also planned to slow its expansion from about 100 stores a year down to 70 stores a year.

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Julie Marie Berman had work done? Why am I not surprised? Her face looks like an immovable porcelain doll's. That forehead has been mega-botoxed. Perhaps a rhinoplasty was thrown in, too.

Seeing the lovely Judi Evans on Days and contrasting it with her stint on ATWT at the end of last year, I'm wondering whether Judi got a modest face lift in between shows. Her neck- and jaw-line look crisp.

P.S.: Gray Bunny, that gorgeous cat in your signature is the most adorable minx I have ever seen!

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Julie Marie Berman had work done? Why am I not surprised? Her face looks like an immovable porcelain doll's. That forehead has been mega-botoxed. Perhaps a rhinoplasty was thrown in, too.

Seeing the lovely Judi Evans on Days and contrasting it with her stint on ATWT at the end of last year, I'm wondering whether Judi got a modest face lift in between shows. Her neck- and jaw-line look crisp.

That's my bet on Julie Berman, Botox and nose job.

Judi Evans either had a mild S lift (it's focused on the jawline) or she lost weight. I'm not sure which way to go on that judgment, Judi's always been a woman whose carried weight in her face, she looks fit and strong on DAYS, so it may just be weight loss. She has very nice skin for someone of her skin type. She could have been all freckled and wrinkled, but nope, not her.

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I had no idea Jackie Collins said that :lol: That she even comments on the likes of Heidi is surprising.

I think she was asked, and that quote came from, the Wendy Williams Show this year... At least I remember laughing at it, and that was the only place I ever saw Jackie interviewed. (I found it amusing how she went on about how her novels aren't even remotely fiction, just different names--then recounteded the ridiculous story of the one she's promoting, Poor Little Bitch Girl. I mean I get that she gets a lot of the character ideas from people she knows, and has gotten into trouble for it, but it seemed almost like she was doing herself a disservice going on and on about how her books were "all true".

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Look at the smirk. Hilarious.

I think she was asked, and that quote came from, the Wendy Williams Show this year... At least I remember laughing at it, and that was the only place I ever saw Jackie interviewed. (I found it amusing how she went on about how her novels aren't even remotely fiction, just different names--then recounteded the ridiculous story of the one she's promoting, Poor Little Bitch Girl. I mean I get that she gets a lot of the character ideas from people she knows, and has gotten into trouble for it, but it seemed almost like she was doing herself a disservice going on and on about how her books were "all true".

The thing with Jackie Collins is that she isn't a 'literary' writer. She's never claimed to be. Rather, she's a storyteller. While Joan is the kind of woman who likes to be in the middle of the action, Jackie is more of an observer and a MUCH bigger gossip than Joan could even hope to be. Joan loves to talk about herself wheras Jackie loves to talk about other people. All of her books have reflected that. Dominick Dunne wrote similarly, he never bothered with saying what he thought about X,Y or Z...it was always about what the beautiful people had to say or do that fascinated him.

And saying it's all true is a smart marketing tactive on her part. In this day, people love tabloids, TMZ, Entertainment Tonight, Perez...the more the better. Jackie Collins is just cashing in on that phenomena. Ultimately, her books are about personalities...be they real or fake it doesn't matter so long as her fans find them compelling.

Jackie gives good interview, but she is hardly spontaneous, she is very smart and delivers her message (BUY MY BOOK!) with zest.

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Jackie has always pushed the 'my books are based on real people' schtick,even though it's so blatantly phony.

Ultimate Jackie and Joan - 'Lucky Bitches' from French & Saunders

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Jackie has always pushed the 'my books are based on real people' schtick,even though it's so blatantly phony.

Ultimate Jackie and Joan - 'Lucky Bitches' from French & Saunders

"Listen Jackie my first husband Maxwell Reed is just coming in, I better go. Ciao darling, keep writing!"

Honestly, one my most precious lines of dialogue ever written.

Jackie's only written one book that was basically real and that was Hollywood Wives. There are several people who still don't speak to her because she based her characters on them.

Lest we forget though that she's based several characters on her sister, notably Fontaine Khaled in The Stud and The Bitch but also Silver Anderson in Hollywood Husbands.

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Has Victoria Principal been mentioned here? Sorry if I missed it. Daytime, what do you think of her and what she has done? I believe she keeps denying that she had plastic surgery but that's bullsh*t.

However, she does look better in some recent pictures of her I've seen.

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I can't believe I'd never seen that sketch before. It's brilliant. I never thought Dawn French could do such a good Jackie Collins. Did Joan or Jackie ever comment on that sketch?

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Has Victoria Principal been mentioned here? Sorry if I missed it. Daytime, what do you think of her and what she has done? I believe she keeps denying that she had plastic surgery but that's bullsh*t.

However, she does look better in some recent pictures of her I've seen.

Victoria hasn't been mentioned...but oh she's worth a few lines...

Victoria is a nice lady, met her a few times, very friendly and not super 'Hollywood' as she's not a big partier. She's a savvy businesswoman, her Principal Secret line of skincare has made her very rich. Her face was really worked over by her now ex-husband, plastic surgeon Harry Glassman, right around 1999/2000 when she made her last TV appearance in the 'so terrible I loved it' Aaron Spelling prime time soap Titans. She's had a very tight facelift, eye work and what I consider to be a terrible brow lift. For years she had the constant look of 'surprise!' on her face. She's never admitted to this plastic surgery, but in my view it is very obvious. Joan Rivers level obvious to be quite frank (worth pointing out that Rivers and Principal HATE each other, no clue why).

It's been at least 10 years since her surgery and it's calmed down a lot. Nothing fixes bad work like time. She's still using Botox and has opted for Fillers now, both of which she admits to and they've substantially softened her appearance. So she's done OK with what I consider semi-botched plastic surgery. She's looking a lot more human now.

Quite frankly, I think divorcing the ex-husband is what's helped her look better. I think that was a longtime bad marriage. She seems far less tense now, much calmer, more together.

She lives in Malibu, what can I say? I dig her.

I can't believe I'd never seen that sketch before. It's brilliant. I never thought Dawn French could do such a good Jackie Collins. Did Joan or Jackie ever comment on that sketch?

Jackie's never commented on it. She lives in Beverly Hills exclusively and only goes to the UK for business or to see family.

Joan, on the other hand, has seen it and according to Jennifer Saunders LOVED it. When the two filmed the movie A Midwinter's Tale in 1995 Jennifer Saunders was quite concerned that Joan would absolutely despise her. Instead, Joan ended up reciting lines of the sketch to Jennifer during lulls in filming, particularly the lines from Macbeth.

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