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57 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Great list except no Peter Simon. 

I actually think its interesting that its all the women who were involved in this iconic storyline...they should have MG there but I know she was on the other, but the Holly/Chelle relationship, which disappeared when they recast Chelle was really interesting and I think ground breaking in its own right, you have these two wounded people, one who really was a terrible mother, and another who just lost Mother of the Year, and an adult who deals with this kid where she was, without pulling any punches or trying to baby here.

 

2 hours ago, prefab1 said:

I really liked the Lorelei stuff, but you're right: it needed better dialogue to help make the subtext of Beth's psychological split into text. But then again, I also thought the Beth/Alan relationship was really interesting, in a creepy way. I could totally buy that, due to Beth's early trauma, she would turn to powerful men who would make her feel safe (even men as vile as Alan). 

Aghh.you lost me on the Alan/Beth stuff...I know what you mean and seen the validity of it but..yuckk! I would have liked, if she did have a split, and not a dumb ho like Loreli...that they proceeded with the storyline as it was done at first...AlterBeth marries Alan to get his power and to keep him in the nuthouse...Alan marries Beth to smoke Phillip out but does not realize what he has got himself into until he is trapped. Then both of them play a game against each other, with Alex playing them both....(I just cant deal with Gus being Alans kid and the whole Harley is president of a Multinaitonal Corporation....)

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2 hours ago, Mitch said:

I actually think its interesting that its all the women who were involved in this iconic storyline...they should have MG there but I know she was on the other, but the Holly/Chelle relationship, which disappeared when they recast Chelle was really interesting and I think ground breaking in its own right, you have these two wounded people, one who really was a terrible mother, and another who just lost Mother of the Year, and an adult who deals with this kid where she was, without pulling any punches or trying to baby here.

 

Aghh.you lost me on the Alan/Beth stuff...I know what you mean and seen the validity of it but..yuckk! I would have liked, if she did have a split, and not a dumb ho like Loreli...that they proceeded with the storyline as it was done at first...AlterBeth marries Alan to get his power and to keep him in the nuthouse...Alan marries Beth to smoke Phillip out but does not realize what he has got himself into until he is trapped. Then both of them play a game against each other, with Alex playing them both....(I just cant deal with Gus being Alans kid and the whole Harley is president of a Multinaitonal Corporation....)

 

They kind of touched on the Michelle/holly relationship again when Budig played Michelle in 1998.  They had some scenes where Michelle was confiding in Holly about Drew's interest in Jesse..plus Michelle's reluctance to help Holly with Ken due to him.shooting Ed many years before.

 

And when Joie Lenz played Michelle..she went to see Holly at Christmas 1998..and was woried about Holly's mental state.  Shame because Holly could have been on Michelle's side against Carman 

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He said it in a nice way, but Rick Hearst basically said in the SOD podcast that he knew it was time to leave when McTavish and Laibson came on, lol. His stories about Beverlee McKinsey and Michael Zaslow were also great to hear. 

 

He said he came in at the very end of Pam Long's run, and name-checked Nancy Curlee, Stephen Demorest, Patrick Mulchaey, and Micahel Conforti, and Courtney Simon. He said that GL had a great group of writers at this time that were very in-tuned with the strengths of the cast. Also, he basically said they knew it wasn't going to be the same when Nancy and Stephen left. 

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On 8/6/2020 at 4:02 PM, Stitches0210 said:

I think The Locher Room—soon welcoming Guiding Light’s Maeve Kinkead, Rachel Miner, Ellen Parker, and Tina Sloan—may have wanted it to be all-female.

 

Wow, that's a definite reason to tune in.

 

 

On a separate note, I had no idea that Robert Newman (Josh) made a detour to Santa Barbara. Does anyone know how long he was on the show?

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@DramatistDreamer  Robert Newman did a few months on GH before moving on to a month and a half on SB.Santa Barbara:  4/22/86-5/30/86 per the SB site.

ROBERT NEWMAN     

 

THE GUIDING LIGHT             Joshua   Lewis          1981-84; 1986-91; 1993-2009

GENERAL HOSPITAL            Prescott Harrell           1985

SANTA BARBARA                  Kirk Cranston Lee        1986

GUIDING LIGHT   Anniversary Special                Reverend John Ruthledge/Arthur Peterson    2007 

VENICE THE SERIES          Richard         2013-16; 2019

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1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Wow, that's a definite reason to tune in.

 

 

On a separate note, I had no idea that Robert Newman (Josh) made a detour to Santa Barbara. Does anyone know how long he was on the show?

April 22 1986  to May 30 1986  Robert also had a nothing role on GH. As one of Sean Donely's goons during the overlong Aztec Treasure story in 1985.

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I am watching Bryan Buffington's interview now, and I will most certainly catch Ellen Parker, et al ASAP.  I will not criticize anyone who is doing this for free, and I am grateful, but I do have a dumb question: What is the rationale for streaming these live?  It is sometimes nice to hear "so and so is watching and just tweeted that they miss you"—depending on who "so and so" is—but it doesn't seem like they're taking that many questions from the audience in real time.  I haven't been able to watch any of them live, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on much other than having to wait.

 

Is there a legal reason, something to do with the video component, because all of the interviewers appear to be archiving recordings of the full interviews for posterity?  I remember Brandon of Brandon's Buzz never posted (audio) interviews live on his podcast—I assume so that he could edit—and in hindsight those seemed much smoother without technical interruptions when he finally dropped those.  (I do hope Brandon is okay, BTW—I've checked his site repeatedly during this time hoping he would post some soap content.)

 

With these Zoom reunions, even if someone isn't a professional video editor it seems like they could just start recording when everyone is truly connected and take a pause in the conversation when someone is having technical issues (or cut them out of the conversation and focus on the remaining guests) and get a tight hour or however long these beloved people are willing to offer.  Fans could submit questions beforehand, etc.

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Did Robert Newman leave in 1991 before or after JFP arrived?


Just interesting that she welcomed him back, but not Zimmer (who had reached out about returning during the time Curlee was still there).

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Newman left when Calhoun was still EP. They had been building something with Harley and Josh in the aftermath of Reva’s “death” that had a lot of potential, and Ehlers and Newman had really great chemistry. 

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2 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Newman left when Calhoun was still EP. They had been building something with Harley and Josh in the aftermath of Reva’s “death” that had a lot of potential, and Ehlers and Newman had really great chemistry. 

I also thought that was going somewhere good during my YouTube watching, the videos were often missing credits, so I wasn’t sure when JFP actually arrives.

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My latest 1979 musings:

 

- I knew Anna Maria Horsford was on the show in the late 70s, but didn’t realized she played a prisoner. Not really sure why I’m surprised by that. What makes it worse is that Clara is such a slave-like character! She comes in, listens to Holly’s stressing, swoons over Massah Chapman and Miss Holly’s romance, then vanishes off to her work in the prison. AMH has been a favorite of mine for years and years, and I just hoped that her first foray into soaps would have been better.

 

- I’m so damn tired of everyone calling her “Evie.” It’s just Eve, damn it. Rita and Viola should be the only ones calling her Evie.

 

- Speaking of Rita, I didn’t know that she’d eventually decide against having an abortion. I was really loving the idea of her standing firm in her decision and being annoyed and plagued by everyone around her telling her what she needed to do. I guess they were going for a warm Thanksgiving “miracle.”

 

- I know people have different opinions of Mart Hulswit as Ed, but I’m loving his super emotional, highly dramatic version. I have next to know history at all with Peter Simon’s Ed, so I’m not sure how the character changes, but MH’s yelling and weeping Ed seems to be in line with any clips I’ve seen of Robert Gentry’s 1966-1969 portrayal. It’s a nice contrast to cool and calm Mike, and honestly both of them are believable as sons who were raised in Bill and Bert’s dysfunctional home.

 

- It’s interesting how much more time and energy is spent on exploring the Bauer men’s antagonists, Roger and Alan, rather than on Ed and Mike themselves. 

 

- The time has come for anything, video or audio, from Roger’s early years on the show to surface.

 

- Katie is one of the sweetest and most kind-hearted soap characters I’ve ever seen. Everything about her is just so pure and clean without her being written as the perfect, delicate flower that needs protection at all costs. I love her and the puppets!

 

- Did ATWT and GL share music cues when Mi-Voix took over scoring the shows? There’s a distinct cue that plays from time-to-time that sounds identical to one heard at the very end of a 1975 ATWT episode that used to be online.
 

- Speaking of music, I think I’ve identified a character theme for Elizabeth. I guess I didn’t expect that to still be a thing at this time, besides for characters who had been on for 10+ years by this point.

 

- Were Jackie and Elizabeth always on good terms who was there ever heavy tension between the two? They’re good in 1977, and they’ve been good through 1979, but in between, there had to have been some drama, right?
 

- I really dislike Viola. She’s pushy and kinda passive-aggressive, and she doesn’t really seem to care about Rita’s well-being at all.

 

- Was Ann Jeffers ever more than just Mike’s assistant?

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19 hours ago, titan1978 said:

I also thought that was going somewhere good during my YouTube watching, the videos were often missing credits, so I wasn’t sure when JFP actually arrives.

JFP arrived in July 1991 according to Wikipedia. I thought it was later (1992) than that but my memory is fuzzy all these years later. 

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