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7 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Didn't Pilar even quit the Cranes' employ at some point?

I don’t think so. I know Rebecca fired her at one point, but even when Theresa was Alistair’s wife, I think Pilar still worked there 

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One of my favorite memories (although I suspect I'm exaggerating it) was when Pilar overheard Ivy and Rebecca talking trash about Theresa, declared "You bitches!" and got into a mini cat fight with them both.

 

So, we have Pilar (maid), Grace (innkeeper), Eve (doctor) and Beth (barista). Tabitha wouldn't have to work for a living, but maybe it would have been interesting in the early years, to keep up appearances, if she had some sort of seemingly altruistic job like volunteering. It would be a good way of keeping tabs on residents.

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I mean I suppose I don't want to read too much into it but between his fondness for writing women obsessed with a man and the fact he neglected to build female characters a life outside of their romantic life, I am starting to suspect there is something to my supposition that Reilly was a bit misogynistic, at least in his writing.
 

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Reilly's writing was misogynistic, bigoted and IMO he was clearly self-loathing. But people pretend they don't see it because he wrote some fun stories 25 years ago.

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10 minutes ago, Vee said:

Reilly's writing was misogynistic, bigoted and IMO he was clearly self-loathing. But people pretend they don't see it because he wrote some fun stories 25 years ago.

Totally agree..and think of what fun Passions could have been if he had embraced his inner queen and just wrote a fun camp mess..instead of a camp mess which would be fun one moment and then the next would make me feel like someone using it as therapy!

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I wish I had found Passions campy and fun like some did, but I found Reilly's relentless misogyny so disturbing. There was a real anger and mistrust of women in his writing. I always thought JFP's AW was bad, but Passions was on a whole other level.

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1 hour ago, chrisml said:

I wish I had found Passions campy and fun like some did, but I found Reilly's relentless misogyny so disturbing. There was a real anger and mistrust of women in his writing. I always thought JFP's AW was bad, but Passions was on a whole other level.

I agree on that...the fun part was the supernatural aspects, i.e. Tabby's latest scheme and that was really the only part of it I watched (who coudlnt love a show that had a guest appearance from Dr. Bombay!) The model guys with shaved chests and jutting pecs and the women who were waiting around for a man part I skipped.

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On 6/25/2019 at 12:40 PM, Darn said:

No shade but it was a very bad show that made a mockery of daytime. I can't blame SOD or what have you for ignoring it.

 

Meh. It wasn't so bad in the beginning. Everyone remembers the absolute train wreck trash it became though. 

 

I loved the show from 1999-2001 and I won't apologize for it! lol

 

It also gets hate because it replaced Another World. For the record, I'd rather have Another World ... but I enjoyed Passions for the first few years. It hit at the right time for me. Nostalgia is strong ;) 

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7 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

Meh. It wasn't so bad in the beginning. Everyone remembers the absolute train wreck trash it became though. 

 

I loved the show from 1999-2001 and I won't apologize for it! lol

 

It also gets hate because it replaced Another World. For the record, I'd rather have Another World ... but I enjoyed Passions for the first few years. It hit at the right time for me. Nostalgia is strong ;) 

In the beginning, the show was kind of entertaining in a weird but fresh way. I often laughed out loud at the dialogue. I watched most of the first few years, but then it started to go off the rails...and that's saying a lot for Passions! The whole Vincent/blackmailer story towards the end was beyond offensive in so many ways. I agree that sometimes JER seemed to be working out some personal issues through his stories. The focus on religion and Catholicism, also on DAYS, sort of came off as a writer torn between his conflicting views.

 

It was such a unique...and yes, odd...show. I do wonder if it would be the best candidate for a revival especially on a streaming service targeting younger viewers...Peacock, for example. I think of the success of the Sabrina revival on Netflix since Passions exists in a similar world.

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Just now, pdm1974 said:

In the beginning, the show was kind of entertaining in a weird but fresh way. I often laughed out loud at the dialogue. I watched most of the first few years, but then it started to go off the rails...and that's saying a lot for Passions! The whole Vincent/blackmailer story towards the end was beyond offensive in so many ways. I agree that sometimes JER seemed to be working out some personal issues through his stories. The focus on religion and Catholicism, also on DAYS, sort of came off as a writer torn between his conflicting views.

 

It was such a unique...and yes, odd...show. I do wonder if it would be the best candidate for a revival especially on a streaming service targeting younger viewers...Peacock, for example. I think of the success of the Sabrina revival on Netflix since Passions exists in a similar world.

 

I think it's prime for a revival. It could work. It gets some nice traction on social media. Like others have said, the tweens are now in their 30s.

 

I agree on JER. I checked out around 2002, returned around 2005 but couldn't stick with it. It was soooo offensive, trashy, bad, etc. The list goes on. I was so turned off. Which sucked because I enjoyed the show FOR WHAT IT WAS, in the beginning, like you said. It was different.

 

I think what frustrates me about JER is he can actually structure a story but ... you know ...

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1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

 

I think it's prime for a revival. It could work. It gets some nice traction on social media. Like others have said, the tweens are now in their 30s.

I think a of those former viewers who "grew up" with Passions would watch...and if they do the combo with the supernatural, romance, and handsome guys, new teen viewers would watch.

 

I know the Daytime Emmys lowered the number of required episodes to be considered for awards to 35 episodes within a year. I think revivals should be thought of in a shorter format, less episodes per season to make them more financially viable.

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1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

 

Meh. It wasn't so bad in the beginning. Everyone remembers the absolute train wreck trash it became though. 

 

I loved the show from 1999-2001 and I won't apologize for it! lol

 

 

Naw, I watched it from the beginning too and it was always bad to me. Repetitive dumb dialogue, sitcom lighting, bad acting, terrible plots. It's the first soap I ever saw premiere and I was so disappointed. I spent a lot of hours in the summer of 99 trying to get into this show.

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The mix of really good actors with terrible ones has happened on a lot of soaps but never was it more pronounced than on Passions.

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