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4 hours ago, danfling said:

I had not known that she was offered the role of Echo on One Life to Live, but I do know that the character of Lydia Farr was created with her in mind and that she was offered that role.

 

That’s my recollection too; she had been offered the role of Lydia after Edge was cancelled. If I remember correctly, people wrongly assumed she had been offered the role of Echo based upon Sharon’s description of the character.

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I never watched AW really, and I'm sure it's buried within this board somewhere, but can someone give me a synopsis that is out there or description...even if you didn't watch AW, I know this is legendary because it's one of those things that everyone (or most people) who were soap fans just know about.  But what is the story/background on all of the speculation that happened about - someone lost a baby or the baby died or something, and a character picked up a pillow or doll or something and fans jumped at it, and pointed to it, bringing it up repeatedly - that she must have had twins.  There must be a 2nd baby by the way she coddled a doll or pillow.  I'm sure someone here knows.  What's the story or where can I read about it?

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You may be thinking of Donna Love when Anna Stuart left in 1986. Her father Reginald had just come back to town and Donna ended up having a mental breakdown. Her last scene was being wheeled off in a stretcher where she was clutching pillows. Right before she left she picked up a third pillow and was talking about her children. This led people to believe that Donna was remembering she had triplets instead of twins, Marley/Vicky. Speculation was that Scott Lasalle, adopted son of Reginald and Mary (McKinnon), was Donna's son and had been raised by Reginald. When Philece Sampler came on as Donna, nothing ever came of that theory. 

I believe Anna Stuart has gone on record and said that grabbing the third pillow was never anything intentional (or in the script). She was just acting out the scene. 

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25 minutes ago, Melroser said:

Right before she left she picked up a third pillow and was talking about her children. This led people to believe that Donna was remembering she had triplets instead of twins, Marley/Vicky. Speculation was that Scott Lasalle, adopted son of Reginald and Mary (McKinnon), was Donna's son and had been raised by Reginald. When Philece Sampler came on as Donna, nothing ever came of that theory. 

I believe Anna Stuart has gone on record and said that grabbing the third pillow was never anything intentional (or in the script). She was just acting out the scene. 

Which is just as well.  I think the revelation of a third child born to Donna at the same as Marley and Vicky would have been too much.

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2 hours ago, Khan said:

Which is just as well.  I think the revelation of a third child born to Donna at the same as Marley and Vicky would have been too much.

Agreed.

Plus, that was originally supposed to be the reveal that pushed Donna over the edge. Why would that drive her insane? It should’ve made her happy lol I’m glad the story was rewritten 

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On 2/21/2022 at 10:40 PM, John said:

Sharon Gabet has claimed OLTL offered her the recast role of Echo in the 80s but she was pregnant. I bet she would have been great in that role, 

i sure would have loved that, the woman was Daytime's Fallon C

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7 hours ago, Melroser said:

You may be thinking of Donna Love when Anna Stuart left in 1986. Her father Reginald had just come back to town and Donna ended up having a mental breakdown. Her last scene was being wheeled off in a stretcher where she was clutching pillows. Right before she left she picked up a third pillow and was talking about her children. This led people to believe that Donna was remembering she had triplets instead of twins, Marley/Vicky. Speculation was that Scott Lasalle, adopted son of Reginald and Mary (McKinnon), was Donna's son and had been raised by Reginald. When Philece Sampler came on as Donna, nothing ever came of that theory. 

I believe Anna Stuart has gone on record and said that grabbing the third pillow was never anything intentional (or in the script). She was just acting out the scene. 

This is the one I remember reading about!  Thanks!

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7 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Agreed.

Plus, that was originally supposed to be the reveal that pushed Donna over the edge. Why would that drive her insane? It should’ve made her happy lol I’m glad the story was rewritten 

I'm thinking being locked in a secret room in the wine cellar as a teenager where you give birth, are forced to raise your baby as your sister, 18 years later find out you had twins and one was given away then a year later find out you actually had triplets may make a person go a little cuckoo.  On top of that your father returns from the dead to terrorize you and his assistant Gomez is drugging you. I would probably be hugging pillows and need a stay in a psych ward for a while,

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Snotty Donna was always the best.  But this was the beginning of "humanizing" Donna, which for a long term character was essential.  Plus the recast while OK, was not the same.  Donna had lost her "edge".  I am always an Anna Stuart fan, and understood as the years went on the sometimes frustration with where Donna was going.  But that's a soap opera.

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6 hours ago, Efulton said:

I'm thinking being locked in a secret room in the wine cellar as a teenager where you give birth, are forced to raise your baby as your sister, 18 years later find out you had twins and one was given away then a year later find out you actually had triplets may make a person go a little cuckoo.  On top of that your father returns from the dead to terrorize you and his assistant Gomez is drugging you. I would probably be hugging pillows and need a stay in a psych ward for a while,

I guess. It probably would've worked had they not rewritten the story, but I just always felt that Donna's greatest fear (John being Vicky and Marley's father) possibly being true was a much more believable reason to finally drive her over the edge.

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I'm watching the end of 1980. I have so many comments. I want Aunt Liz to shut up. She's driving me bats! 

Joey is such a hothead. You poor guy, you married a rich woman. Poor thing.

I see where Rachel is coming from, but she is her own worst enemy. Lying to Mac is never a good idea. Was VW really pregnant at this point? If so, that child is now 42. Whoa that's a sobering thought.  

I understand that Miranda was supposed to be Iris 2.0. That was a mistake. This show alrrady had an Iris. It was creating Blaine and Cecil. It didn't NEED Iris 2.0. Rachel was doing just fine at blowing her own relationship. They could have made Miranda a more rounded and interesting character. We know JM can pull off rounded and interesting.

Can't stand Amy or Kit. But I am enjoying Rick. 

I keep telling myself, It's okay. Felicia is coming...

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2 hours ago, Marissa Gallant said:

I'm watching the end of 1980. I have so many comments. I want Aunt Liz to shut up. She's driving me bats! 

Joey is such a hothead. You poor guy, you married a rich woman. Poor thing.

I see where Rachel is coming from, but she is her own worst enemy. Lying to Mac is never a good idea. Was VW really pregnant at this point? If so, that child is now 42. Whoa that's a sobering thought.  

I understand that Miranda was supposed to be Iris 2.0. That was a mistake. This show alrrady had an Iris. It was creating Blaine and Cecil. It didn't NEED Iris 2.0. Rachel was doing just fine at blowing her own relationship. They could have made Miranda a more rounded and interesting character. We know JM can pull off rounded and interesting.

Can't stand Amy or Kit. But I am enjoying Rick. 

I keep telling myself, It's okay. Felicia is coming...

I rewatched all the available episodes from 1980 - 85 a few years ago.  1980 is painfully boring  Things get better in 1981.  Go off the rails again in 1982 BUT Dec 1982 - spring 1985 is so good.  

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7 hours ago, Marissa Gallant said:

Was VW really pregnant at this point? If so, that child is now 42. Whoa that's a sobering thought.  

Her sons were apparently born in 1971 and 1974, if this page is to be believed. 

4 hours ago, Efulton said:

Go off the rails again in 1982 BUT Dec 1982 - spring 1985 is so good.  

I keep hoping to find more late 1983/early 1984 to see the introduction of David and Kevin Thatcher, Sally and Peter splitting up, Donna's interference. 

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