Neil Johnson Members Share Posted October 28, 2020 12 hours ago, rlj said: At that time Return From The Dead Steven Frame was the Richest Man in BC! Of course he wasn't. My post explained that Mac was far wealthier, and we don't even know if Mac was the richest man in Bay City. Mac was just the richest man on the show. Steve owned a construction company. Mac owned a world-wide publishing conglamorate. That had been established years earlier on the show. No need to argue about it. 12 hours ago, amybrickwallace said: I think Laura Malone was a terrific performer no matter what she was given to play, but do you all think Blaine was better as a villainess or a heroine? (Most of the material I've seen on YouTube is after Blaine had become a good girl.) Blaine was far better as a villainess. And Malone was better at playing her that way. After Blaine became a heroine, Malone seemed to struggle finding motivation for the character, and Blaine became too saccharine sweet. Artificial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amybrickwallace Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Neil Johnson said: Blaine was far better as a villainess. And Malone was better at playing her that way. After Blaine became a heroine, Malone seemed to struggle finding motivation for the character, and Blaine became too saccharine sweet. Artificial. Thanks. How far into her run on the show was Blaine redeemed? What was the turning point? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, amybrickwallace said: Thanks. How far into her run on the show was Blaine redeemed? What was the turning point? If you slog through the 1980 episodes Blaine is already well into anti-heroine mode and not too far off being an outright heroine, forced into being a mafioso's mistress in order to keep her husband Jerry safe. I think Laura does a great job with this stuff, but maybe the later material I haven't seen is more of a struggle for her. There's a lot of 80-82 AW material I just don't really have any rush to sit through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rlj Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 22 hours ago, Neil Johnson said: Of course he wasn't. My post explained that Mac was far wealthier, and we don't even know if Mac was the richest man in Bay City. Mac was just the richest man on the show. Steve owned a construction company. Mac owned a world-wide publishing conglamorate. That had been established years earlier on the show. No need to argue about it. Blaine was far better as a villainess. And Malone was better at playing her that way. After Blaine became a heroine, Malone seemed to struggle finding motivation for the character, and Blaine became too saccharine sweet. Artificial. He actually was, wasn't arguing, as someone who watched when Steve aka Mr Black returned from the dead in 81 , I know he was more then just the owner of Frame Construction at that time, we will agree to disagree! Who is Theresa? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zMInlITgMI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Johnson Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, rlj said: He actually was, wasn't arguing, as someone who watched when Steve aka Mr Black returned from the dead in 81 , I know he was more then just the owner of Frame Construction at that time, we will agree to disagree! Who is Theresa? I watched in '81 too. And yes, they really screwed-up a lot of history with Steve's return. When neither the writers nor the actors know the history of a storyline, it's difficult to get it right. Paul Rauch and Vicky Wyndham would have known the details, but both had probably thrown-up their hands in exhaustion by that time. Theresa was Carol Lamont's mother and a socialite friend of Iris from back east. Theresa was diagnosed with a terminal illness while visiting Iris in Bay City, and died on the patio of Iris's mansion. Edited October 29, 2020 by Neil Johnson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AbcNbc247 Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Neil Johnson said: Theresa was Carol Lamont's mother and a socialite friend of Iris from back east. Theresa was diagnosed with a terminal illness while visiting Iris in Bay City, and died on the patio of Iris's mansion. I'd love to see that scene where she died. All nice and peaceful, singing "Bye Bye Blackbird" and then she was gone. Lemay said he wrote it like that on purpose in order to show someone just simply accepting that it was just their time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Johnson Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said: I'd love to see that scene where she died. All nice and peaceful, singing "Bye Bye Blackbird" and then she was gone. Lemay said he wrote it like that on purpose in order to show someone just simply accepting that it was just their time. I may have been wrong that Theresa was diagnosed in Bay City. It's possible she already knew she was dying, when she arrived. I don't remember. My only problem with the focus on Theresa's death was, she was such an unimportant character. Why didn't Lemay give this death scene to someone the audience cared more about? I suppose it was a matter of timing. But he certainly killed-off plenty of important characters, and often their deaths got relatively little attention. We barely knew Theresa, and her death is still remembered as one of the show's classic scenes. In terms of structuring a show, that was probably a mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AbcNbc247 Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Neil Johnson said: In terms of structuring a show, that was probably a mistake. From what it sounds like, the only reason she was killed off was because Lemay wanted Nancy Marchand to appear on Lover and Friends/For Richer or Poorer. Edited October 29, 2020 by AbcNbc247 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elsa Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 How about Sharon Gabet joining AW as Blaine? Do you think it would have worked out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neil Johnson Members Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Elsa said: How about Sharon Gabet joining AW as Blaine? Do you think it would have worked out? I think Sharon Gabet should have been cast as Rachel's sister, Pamela Davis. She was the right age, had the right look, and the character would have leaned toward Gabet's acting strengths. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Raven Author Members Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Neil Johnson said: I think Sharon Gabet should have been cast as Rachel's sister, Pamela Davis. She was the right age, had the right look, and the character would have leaned toward Gabet's acting strengths. Great idea! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xanthe Members Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 10:33 AM, Neil Johnson said: My post explained that Mac was far wealthier, and we don't even know if Mac was the richest man in Bay City. Mac was just the richest man on the show. Steve owned a construction company. Mac owned a world-wide publishing conglamorate. That had been established years earlier on the show. No need to argue about it. Frame Harding Construction seemed much smaller than Cory Publishing, but what was Blackhawk? I was under the impression that Steve came back from the dead wealthier than he had been. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watson71 Members Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 7:13 PM, Neil Johnson said: I think Sharon Gabet should have been cast as Rachel's sister, Pamela Davis. She was the right age, had the right look, and the character would have leaned toward Gabet's acting strengths. Yes- she would made a good Pamela Davis. She could have come to Bay City to stir up trouble for both Rachel and Ada. Also, their father Gerald Davis was last seen in jail for perjury. At the time Sharon Gabet arrived as Brittany, the character of Rachel had amnesia. Pamela and Gerald could have plotted against the Corys and used Rachel to get their hands on the Cory fortune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Soaplovers Members Share Posted October 31, 2020 Didn't Gabet want to play a non Raven esque character? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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