The Politics Thread

[Vee]

 

Warren is still trying to connect more with the black vote from what I've seen and read, though I think there's always more to be done. And as a few recent pieces note, she has yet to move too much of the entrenched Obama/Biden support. I personally think it's early and that can change, but I also think Joe will keep a block of that vote no matter what.

[Vee]

 

[Khan]

I'm sure plenty of folks out there scoff at the notion of Tulsi as a Russian puppet.  The thing is, Hillary has said a ton of things about Trump and Putin that have turned out to be dead-on accurate.  Just as Bill's argument as to why she lost in 2016 aligns with what all the polling has suggested.

 

Say what you want about the Clintons, but they know wtf they're talking about.

[DramatistDreamer]

So I'm guessing that those Hindu nationalists groups no longer want anything to do with her?

[ReddFoxx]

Hillary was the head of the state department, so maybe she knows some facts about Gabbard other than mere speculation.

 

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

So I'm guessing that those Hindu nationalists groups no longer want anything to do with her?

They probably will back away. She doesn't have a chance at the presidency and she might not retain her house seat. Her primary challenger is getting much attention early on.

[DRW50]

4 hours ago, Khan said:

I'm sure plenty of folks out there scoff at the notion of Tulsi as a Russian puppet.  The thing is, Hillary has said a ton of things about Trump and Putin that have turned out to be dead-on accurate.  Just as Bill's argument as to why she lost in 2016 aligns with what all the polling has suggested.

 

Say what you want about the Clintons, but they know wtf they're talking about.

 

Many have had this speculation about Tulsi. I'm surprised Hillary said it in such a public way, but I suppose she has nothing left to lose. The sad thing is if Tulsi does run third party, many on the left will actively support her. 

[Vee]

Not enough. She's far more fringe than Bernie, and her record is dirtier than Stein's.

Edited October 19, 2019 by Vee

[marceline]

I'm curious about why Hillary chose to put Tulsi on blast now. Hillary was a Secretary of State. She's probably had receipts on Tulsi for years. I'm curious what prompted this because when it comes to national security she doesn't do anything on the spur of the moment.

[Chris B]

I think Hillary is at a point where she's free. Everything she's been saying has been coming true so now she feels comfortable speaking her mind. She already did her service to her country so she has no need to hold back anymore.

[DRW50]

She probably also knows the attacks will be ramping up soon on whoever is the nominee, and Tulsi will be key to that attack. 

 

I see Andrew Yang is out there cheerleading for Tulsi. Just another reason I do not trust him. 

[Vee]

 

 

[DramatistDreamer]

6 hours ago, Vee said:

Not enough. She's far more fringe than Bernie, and her record is dirtier than Stein's.

 

Gabbard has a very large far-right following.  Even those Hindu nationalists, they are far-right, not left.

 

Someone made a list of her supporters for comparison.

 

 

A short list of folks who are fans of Tulsi Gabbard:
- Bashar al-Assad
- Tucker Carlson
- Steve Bannon
- Richard Spencer
- David Duke, and
*checks notes, sigh*
...Van Jones.

FUN FACT: Blocking trumpers and Tulsi voters? Same thing.https://t.co/kuTvgHvTSC

— BrooklynDad_Defiant Savage! (@mmpadellan) October 19, 2019

 

Gabbard might capture the 'Jill Stein voter', if there is such a thing.

[DramatistDreamer]

A veteran filmed an Op-Ed video for NYT to talk about what he thinks of Trump's "strategy" (I used that term very loosely) to pull U.S. troops out of Syria.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000006769520/trump-turkey-kurds-syria.html

[DramatistDreamer]

 

Okay, this headline is kind of funny but the sentiment is apt.  It's clear the E.U. got what they wanted on the Irish backstop, and is willing to allow Johnson to save face but they want to be done with the Brits.

 

EU message to UK: just leave already
The European Union has given up any hope of keeping Britain in the bloc. Now it just wants the British gone. There are bigger external challenges to face and a complicated budget, and Brexit has sucked up too much timehttps://t.co/XsEoMlm5kR

— Alfons López Tena #FBPE (@alfonslopeztena) October 18, 2019

[DramatistDreamer]

We crunched the numbers. Without Trump's tax law, home values would have been one trillion dollars higher today than they are.

That’s right — a trillion, with a T. https://t.co/QW0jqI7snb

— ProPublica (@propublica) October 19, 2019