Khan Report post Posted September 19 (edited) Based on my limited amount of knowledge about these types of things, it seems to me that the far left's attitude is, "Let it all burn to the ground, so we can build anew (and maybe get it right this time)." Which is a fine idea...IN THEORY. But, in order for this phoenix called the United States of America rise from its ashes, I would think there needed to be enough there worth saving. My fear is that, if we let this country burn as much as the far right and far left want it to, we'll be left with less than nothing. We'll basically have to rip up the Declaration of Independence AND the Constitution and start all over -- and given the temperature of this country right now, especially among those hate-mongering Trumpers, I'm not sure I want for that to happen. Edited September 19 by Khan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Report post Posted September 19 I notice many on the left see Nancy Pelosi as an equal to Trump and believe that if only she were as badass as they believe they are, everything would be wonderful. They endlessly speculate that she is beholden to him, or they are working together, or she's just a coward. They feasted on some article yesterday claiming that he feels like he can do what he wants and she won't respond. Never mind that he is going to feel that way no matter what because he's a narcissist and completely unhinged mentally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vee Report post Posted September 20 (edited) You can't take the Splinter left seriously. That echo chamber will always exist and they regularly get clowned in their own comments sections. Watching them act shocked when people like AOC slowly become more politically wise and dump liabilities such as her nutty CoS for 'speaking truth to power', though, never gets old. Meanwhile: Edited September 20 by Vee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReddFoxx Report post Posted September 20 There is an idea among the left that Trump being re-elected and destroying the country would push the country far left enough to elect the type of leaders that they want. The problem with that logic is that Trump being elected in the first place hasn't raised their political fortunes (almost none of the far left's preferred candidate's even made it out of primaries in last year's elections). A damaged economy and democracy being in shambles after two terms of Trump probably would give the Democratic Party an electoral realignment in 2024, but undoing all the harm Trump would have done would take decades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khan Report post Posted September 20 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said: A damaged economy and democracy being in shambles after two terms of Trump probably would give the Democratic Party an electoral realignment in 2024, but undoing all the harm Trump would have done would take decades. As it is, it'll take the next generation and the one after that to sort through the messes he and his team have dumped in their laps already. 7 minutes ago, Vee said: Rudy Ruettiger wasn't that dumb. Edited September 20 by Khan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vee Report post Posted September 20 (edited) Remember when all Rudy had to do was sit back, play the grand mayor and let his ex-wife and/or girlfriend take vanity parts on OLTL? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Edited September 20 by Vee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReddFoxx Report post Posted September 20 Sanders avoids socially liberal settings because he's one of those people who believes that the "Heartland" is put off by minorities and LGBT people. More than anyone he is trying to get votes from working class white voters who really don't vote based on their wallets, but on social issues over all. He's convinced that an economic message will get them to support him, but that's not at all accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Report post Posted September 20 34 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said: Sanders avoids socially liberal settings because he's one of those people who believes that the "Heartland" is put off by minorities and LGBT people. More than anyone he is trying to get votes from working class white voters who really don't vote based on their wallets, but on social issues over all. He's convinced that an economic message will get them to support him, but that's not at all accurate. Sanders gets so many passes for this type of stuff. I think because a lot of people seem to see themselves as him and make him what they want to be. It's very Trump-ish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Report post Posted September 20 The feud between Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in Florida continues to take scalps. This one might help Trump lose Florida (vote-rigging aside). https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/20/trump-desantis-florida-susie-wiles-1504981 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vee Report post Posted September 20 Trump's fundamental weakness: He hates confrontation and craves validation, clings to support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Report post Posted September 20 (edited) The above makes me even worried about when he will take us to war. de Blasio is out: Did he ever really live up to his promise, or was he just able to run a very slick campaign for mayor? Edited September 20 by DRW50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khan Report post Posted September 20 (edited) One down, 497 more to go. Not that this is news to anyone with even half a brain, but Trump is being "indecisive" about a lot of things, because all he had going into the WH was "BUILD! THAT! WALL!" and paying back Obama for making fun of him. The emperor truly has no clothes. Edited September 20 by Khan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW50 Report post Posted September 21 An old Nightline on Iran hostages. I had no idea Netenyahu had been so tied to American media interests for this many years. (there are also commercials from the military cable channel in Okinawa, so that's interesting to watch) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
