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9 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 I realize that there are many candidates on the stage in these debates but the fact that a candidate has to bring up an issue to give it relevance is incredible.

 

It is!  It truly is!  But I am so very glad Kamala DID bring it up!  If she doesn't get the nomination, at the very least, the nominee should make her his (or her) VP.  

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4 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is busing? 

 

Busing kids from their neighborhood, usually across a lengthy distance to another neighborhood to attend school.  Most often it tended to be black kids and many of the interactions toward those kids were hostile as many white parents did not want change. 

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6 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Busing kids from their neighborhood, usually across a lengthy distance to another neighborhood to attend school.  Most often it tended to be black kids and many of the interactions toward those kids were hostile as many white parents did not want change. 

 

Exactly.  White communities were dragging their collective, proverbial feet on integrating public schools after the Brown vs. Board of Education decision, so SCOTUS basically told 'em, "Integrate now, or else!".  Which makes their decision NOT to hear the three lawsuits pending against partisan gerrymandering, claiming they have no authority in the matter and sending them back to the states, all the more blatantly partisan.

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Busing was what showed how much racism or at minimum prejudice existed in cities. In the San Fernando Valley an anti-busing conservative managed to win a congressional seat back in 1980 even though it as a mostly Democratic district (granted Reagan's huge win helped). The displays of opposition to busing were quite ugly and were bipartisan.

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1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Busing kids from their neighborhood, usually across a lengthy distance to another neighborhood to attend school.  Most often it tended to be black kids and many of the interactions toward those kids were hostile as many white parents did not want change. 

 

Thanks. I assumed it was something like this, but I didn't want to comment on it without knowing the context of it. It was a really great moment.

 

Again coming from an outside perspective and not knowing much about any of them outside of Bernie and Biden, I thought Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, Buttigieg, and Castro were the stand outs and had the best ideas and message for exactly why they were running. Do any of them have a chance or is it just going to Biden or Bernie?

 

I thought Beto, Klobuchar, and Booker stood out as well but not as strongly as the others.

 

I'm afraid to ask because I'm sure they'd be just awful to watch, but are their debates for Trump and the Republicans? Or does the sitting President not have anyone true against them from their own party?

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7 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

I'm afraid to ask because I'm sure they'd be just awful to watch, but are their debates for Trump and the Republicans? Or does the sitting President not have anyone true against them from their own party?

There won't be any debates. He has one challenger in former Massachusetts Governor William Weld, but that's a low key challenge that won't go anywhere.

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15 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

 

Thanks. I assumed it was something like this, but I didn't want to comment on it without knowing the context of it. It was a really great moment.

 

Again coming from an outside perspective and not knowing much about any of them outside of Bernie and Biden, I thought Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, Buttigieg, and Castro were the stand outs and had the best ideas and message for exactly why they were running. Do any of them have a chance or is it just going to Biden or Bernie?

 

I'd say Warren and Harris have a decent chance of upsetting the apple cart. Castro probably has a decent shot at VP. 

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22 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

I'm afraid to ask because I'm sure they'd be just awful to watch, but are their debates for Trump and the Republicans? Or does the sitting President not have anyone true against them from their own party?

 

12 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

There won't be any debates. He has one challenger in former Massachusetts Governor William Weld, but that's a low key challenge that won't go anywhere.

 

That's usually the way it goes for us, I think.  If a sitting president decides to run for a second term of office, then his getting his party's nomination is virtually automatic.  (Which is probably why I think limiting each president to one, six-year term might not be such a bad idea after all).  Regardless, though, even if there were other men (and women) who wished to contest Trump for the GOP nomination, no one in the party is brave enough to face Trump's legions of followers supporters.

 

6 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

I'd say Warren and Harris have a decent chance of upsetting the apple cart. Castro probably has a decent shot at VP. 

 

Sorry, Carl, but I'd have to disagree.  At this point, even with all the amazing "performances" at the debates, I still believe the nomination will come down to between Bernie and Biden, the two candidates with the loudest group of supporters in the (proverbial) room.  BUT, I DO think whichever man lands the nomination would be doing himself absolutely no favors if they overlook Kamala and/or Warren for the VP slot.

 

1 hour ago, Vee said:

Harris not taking Chuck Todd's shít (and twitter roasting him yet again) made my heart sing.

 

How do you bring up the subject of race relations in this country and not expect the lone Black woman on the stage to say anything?  Seriously, Chuck?  He makes Y&R's Joshua Morrow look like a Rhodes scholar!

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MW proves that not every bestselling author who appears on Oprah should involve him- or herself in politics.

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Marianne Williamson is in the race to sell books. Being an author who was featured by Oprah is a far more comfortable life than being President, but running will boost your sales and in turn keep your bank account full. With that said her answer about race was on the mark, because people truly do not want to acknowledge race issues in the US.

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I'm just sitting here, laughing at the thought of a potential president having a past as an owner of a metaphysical bookstore.  It's like the ladies of "Designing Women" finding out that whoever ran Psychic World Bookstore was running for office.  (Oh, Julia Sugarbaker would be livid at the thought of having to vote for someone like that, lol.)

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Kamala Harris absolutely smashed this debate. I felt like night one Castro FINALLY broke out after being ignored by the press for so long and Warren was good. Even tonight Mayor Pete did better than I expected and I felt like Sanders and Gillibrand (despite her constant interruptions) were good, but Sen. Harris was far and away the leader on stage. Every time she has a town hall, hearing or opportunity to speak to the public she delivers. The thoughts of her against Trump in a debate are just insane. He wouldn't be able to handle her.

 

I also was shocked by her comments towards Biden, but I loved them. He is truly a mediocre candidate who did a poor job (as he always does in debates) and she needed to break out strong to have a chance. Had she done everything the same EXCEPT addressing Biden, all the press would've been about how she did a wonderful job and will make a great VP for Biden. She is NOT running to be Biden's VP and that's the mold the press keeps putting her in. "Yes he's middle of the road, but Kamala will save the day." No. She's running for president and needs to be treated as such. I think she did a great job of ending those talks and forcing people to consider her as a candidate.

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Marianne Williamson is the weirdest candidate I've seen in a primary in awhile.

 

I've loved Castro since Obama's tenure and thought he'd be president someday. I still hope so. But I'm much more for Harris and Warren atm.

 

 

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