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Mama Khan had a similar experience with the mother of her first husband.  (She's still friendly toward her, for some, unfathomable reason).  Except, my grandmother (well, she's not REALLY my grandmother, but...) took a step farther by manipulating Mama Khan out of her and her then-husband's house as the two were divorcing, leaving her AND my older brother virtually out on the street.  (Again, why they have remain in contact all these years is a total mystery to me).

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And now, Bernard in repose:

 

 

But the Times, while necessary, is not our friend, and this long thread from Oliver Willis on Maggie Haberman's latest Hope Hicks puff piece explains why:

 

 

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I was wondering if someone is going to post this. I don't really understand why it's taken so many to catch onto Maggie Haberman. While the paper still does great local coverage, their political beat is garbage and has been for years. It's hard to match the garbage the Times put out during the Iraq war and how they lead the propaganda arm of the White House, but this is worse IMO. To use your stature in the country to spread this BS is a disgrace.

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4 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

I was wondering if someone is going to post this. I don't really understand why it's taken so many to catch onto Maggie Haberman. While the paper still does great local coverage, their political beat is garbage and has been for years. It's hard to match the garbage the Times put out during the Iraq war and how they lead the propaganda arm of the White House, but this is worse IMO. To use your stature in the country to spread this BS is a disgrace.

 

I agree.  I stopped reading anything that she's written some time ago.  I guess I just assumed others have done the same. 

I still maintain that the best part of the NYTimes remains their Metro NYC section.  Their Arts section can still be good as well, if you skip most of the reviews.

 

 

Hate to risk ruining what's left of everyone's holiday weekend but what I'm seeing is that Trump's lies don't take time off, even if we do.  I thought this piece was interesting, especially given that it's Memorial Day.

 

 

Also, remember when we were all talking about the Israeli elections, not too long ago?

 

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@DramatistDreamer That story about the Israeli elections is really something. I'm in shock to be honest. I've been trying to sort out what happened in Europe yesterday.  It seems the left populist movement gained ground in both France and Germany. 3 Brexit party MP's elected in the UK(and UKIP failing thank goodness). Greece throwing out their populist leader, Macron cozying up to the left wing socialists in Spain. It's topsy turvy. Italy is really no surprise to me. They always go the crazy route. 

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10 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Hate to risk ruining what's left of everyone's holiday weekend but what I'm seeing is that Trump's lies don't take time off, even if we do.  I thought this piece was interesting, especially given that it's Memorial Day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's for damn sure. Truly, I don't think I've ever known (or known of) a person who lies as much as he does.  My mind automatically discards everything he says now, I don't even consciously think about it.  I just see him talking and put his statements in the figurative trash basket.

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14 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

That's for damn sure. Truly, I don't think I've ever known (or known of) a person who lies a much as he does.  My mind automatically discards everything he says now, I don't even consciously think about it.  I just see him talking and put his statements in the figurative trash basket.

 

Unfortunately, I say the same things about my grandmother.

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Mueller basically came out, resigned, refused to exonerate Trump and pointedly put the onus to act on Congress.

 

 

I don't believe there is a choice anymore. Maybe not next week, but before the election is over.

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Interesting thread.

 

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9 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't believe there is a choice anymore.

 

Sadly, I agree.  Congress must act.  If it doesn't, then it will look complicit.

 

I just wish I could shake the feeling that seeking impeachment will ultimately deliver the Democrats' fate into the GOP's hands.

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1 minute ago, Khan said:

 

Sadly, I agree.  Congress must act.  If it doesn't, then it will look complicit.

 

I just wish I could shake the feeling that seeking impeachment will ultimately deliver the Democrats' fate into the GOP's hands.

People were not on the side of the Nixon impeachment when inquiries started. Public hearings covered on television have power.  Enough at this point who knows. 

 

At this point I agree with Sewer. And American Exceptionalism is a joke. We are a nation of C students who want the cliff notes version or someone to spoon feed us the answers.

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