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12 hours ago, Eric83 said:

At this point, I’m so tired of fighting, writing, calling, and mailing that I’m just like f*** it... pass the damn bill. Let it all burn to the ground and make those who voted for IT feel every bit of his egotistical, heartless, self-serving wrath. 

 

I understand that feeling but PLEASE don't give into it. Every time I'm tempted to I think about the kids in the CHIP program, the people of Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, the trans people in the military, the Haitians and Hondurans that they are trying to kick out of the country, the innocent people in the Korean Peninsula (including our own troops), etc... these are all people who need us to have their backs, especially now when people on the left like Susan Sarandon still won't take responsibility for what they did.

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3 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

I understand that feeling but PLEASE don't give into it. Every time I'm tempted to I think about the kids in the CHIP program, the people of Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, the trans people in the military, the Haitians and Hondurans that they are trying to kick out of the country, the innocent people in the Korean Peninsula (including our own troops), etc... these are all people who need us to have their backs, especially now when people on the left like Susan Sarandon still won't take responsibility for what they did.

what's the CHIP program?

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People on the Far Left: "If Hillary were president, this country would be firmly in the hands of Wall Street and the self-entitled rich."

 

Me: "Which is different from where we are today, because...?"

 

13 hours ago, DRW50 said:

it basically shows how many reliable right-wing sources aren't bothering to pretend this tax cut is going to help the economy or is even a good idea.

 

From Larry Kudlow: “Just give us a chance, and in three or four years, if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work; we all go back to the drawing board [...] I get that. But it’s our turn.”

 

 

But seriously.  The GOP is in a no-win situation.  If they lose their precious tax bill, then their backers promise to sever the financial bloodlines.  If they don't, then they risk the wrath of voters, who are making it clear already that they think the bill is [!@#$%^&*].  They KNOW the odds of this succeeding even a little are slim, but rather than concede to the other side, they're going to cross their fingers and pray.

 

I'd laugh about that if it weren't so damn serious.

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1 hour ago, marceline said:

 

The scuttlebutt I've seen over the last few weeks has said that Flynn was pretty much willing to do anything to save his son so yeah, there's probably quite a few people in Snatchgrabber's cabal who need a change of underwear  right now.

This has been a terrible day for me, so this news is very welcome.

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4 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

This has been a terrible day for me, so this news is very welcome.

 

Sorry to hear the day's been lousy for you, Julia. :(

 

A wise man once said, "There is no honor among thieves."  I guess Michael Flynn proves that point.

 

4 minutes ago, Vee said:

More than Jared. Flynn put 45 in the picture to save his son.

 

How so?  Because, all I'm reading is that Trump election officials, rather than Trump himself, were the ones who put him up to lying to the authorities about Russian collusion. 

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11 minutes ago, Khan said:

How so?  Because, all I'm reading is that Trump election officials, rather than Trump himself, were the ones who put him up to lying to the authorities about Russian collusion. 

 

The issue is that Trump put him up to working with the Russians in the first place pre-inauguration. That is illegal.

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All I can say is Hillary warned us. And so did Sally Yates.  Lesson is LISTEN TO WOMEN ALL THE TIME

 

And I am no Chris Christie fan, but he advised Trump and his team not to bring on Flynn because he believed he was compromised. Kuschner and Bannon didn't take him seriously and then Christie was let go.

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You mean, when he asked Flynn to contact the Russians in the hopes of working together to defeat ISIS?  That's illegal?

 

(By the way, Vee, I'm not arguing with you.  I guess I'm just trying to wrap my head around all this.)

 

5 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

Lesson is LISTEN TO WOMEN ALL THE TIME

 

Well, not ALL the time. ;)

 

Boy, I'd sure love for this to end with Donald, Flynn and the rest of the conspirators performing "Hello, Dolly!" for the other inmates at their prison's annual talent show.  But I just don't want to count my chickens before they hatch.  Know what I mean?

 

5 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I am no Chris Christie fan, but he advised Trump and his team not to bring on Flynn because he believed he was compromised. Kuschner and Bannon didn't take him seriously and then Christie was let go.

 

Hey, that fat [!@#$%^&*] didn't get to be governor on his looks and charm alone.  

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