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It's just like what marceline said: they can't get Trump DIRECTLY, so they'll pick off everyone around him, one by one, isolating him entirely.

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Back in the day, scandals like Russia would be much harder to break, because the people involved would cover their tracks (or at least cover them better than the people involved here have).  Whatever happened to 3 a.m. meetings in empty parking lots, or covert confabs in hole-in-the-wall restaurants two towns away?  In the movie "Stalag 17," information would be passed back and forth by means of hiding messages inside light sockets.  Now, we have Don-Don meeting up with Russians in broad daylight at his high-profile dad's tower and TWEETING the damn(ing) emails in the name of "transparency."  Criminals have become So. Damn. Lazy.

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1 minute ago, MichaelGL said:

Isn't Assange wanted by the U.S. government? 

 

Assange Contacted Donald Trump, Jr.

 

This is a problem for me. Just further solidifies how this administration is willing to sell us up the river to ensure they have power. If he was contacted by Assange, he should've contacted the FBI or CIA, so they could've tracked his a** down or something. 

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Charles Pierce, again:

 

I waited all morning, all one rainy and dark Tuesday morning, for the story to slow down enough for me to catch up with it. And, while I was waiting, I wondered what if, on a similarly rainy and dark Tuesday morning in July of 1973, while the Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Practices was conducting its hearings on television, Richard Nixon had called a press conference and simply played all the Watergate tapes for all the world to hear. Because, bless me, that seems very much like what Donald Trump, Jr. did on a July Tuesday in the year of our lord 2017. And that was where I finally caught up with the story.

 

[...]

 

On the electric Twitter machine, for reasons known only to whatever pagan deity watches over this gang of grifters and fools, Junior had published the entire email chain, the contents of which, in any ordinary time, would have everybody involved being fitted for leg-irons, their room reservations at Leavenworth already booked.

 

[...]

 

The email chain makes clear that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government. Further, it also makes plain that not only Junior, but also Manafort and Kushner knew the campaign had done so because Junior was kind enough to forward the emails to them. He incriminated himself. He incriminated the other two. He made a lie out of practically everything that the Trump camp has said on the subject for over a year. He landed a clean shot below the waterline of his father's administration. Again, I thought of Nixon, standing behind a podium in the White House, while the tape from June 23, 1972 unspooled to an eager world, and then telling the assembled press corps, "See? It's just like I said. I'm not involved." It also was announced that Junior would appear with Sean Hannity on Tuesday night. I fully expected Junior to show up on the set dressed as an evil boyar from an Eisenstein film.

 

Things pretty much exploded after that. Republicans ran for cover; Orrin Hatch tried to minimize the whole business and failed, utterly. Mitch McConnell canceled a chunk of the August recess, probably because he knows nothing's going to move in Congress as long as the circus is in town at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue. The Democrats zoomed into orbit; Tim Kaine even Went There in a big way. From CNN:

 

"We are now beyond obstruction of justice," the Virginia Democrat told CNN Tuesday. "This is moving into perjury, false statements and even potentially treason."

 

But by far the most interesting reaction came from Choirboy Mike Pence, the Vice President of the United States. His office put out a statement that was conspicuous in its tap-dancing. Pence, of course, has been all over television for a year denying that the Trump campaign knew anything about Russian ratfcking. He has decided on the modified limited blow-off route for the moment, via The Hill:

 

"The Vice President is working every day to advance the president's agenda, which is what the American people sent us here to do," press secretary Marc Lotter said in a statement. "The Vice President was not aware of the meeting. He is not focused on stories about the campaign, particularly stories about the time before he joined the ticket."

 

At this point, you have to have a mind of bread dough to give either Pence or his nominal boss the benefit of any doubt.

 

(Thanks to Junior's efforts, Philip Bump had a precise timeline on which to hang this video of the president* delivering a suspiciously clairvoyant victory speech. Wonder how he knew what was coming?) All over the Intertoobz, Trump Kremlinologists—and, hell, actual Kremlinologists—were parsing the events to a fine pulp to try and discover the through line in what now appears to be a writhing ball of snakes pretending to be a government.

 

Almost all of the recent Times exclusives were sourced to what appeared to be people within the White House or, at least, to people close enough to it to know the details of a very closely held meeting. Is Team Jared out for blood? Is there some sort of weird Oedipal thing playing out with Junior? Is Tiffany behind it all, bred from birth for vengeance like Mordred to Marla Maples' Morgan Le Fay? The boggled mind further boggles.

 

The government of the United States is a shambles. An incompetent administration headed by an unqualified buffoon is now descending into criminal comedy and maladroit backstabbing. It is an administration that not only self-destructs, but glories in the process. There seems to be no end to it, and no desire to end it by the people who actually have the power to do so. That, in itself, seems curious, and it probably should remind us all that Paul Ryan's Super PAC was hip-deep in the borscht itself. Ryan, who really is the person best situated to close the circus down, seems to be afflicted with one of his periodic bouts of invisibility, poor lad.

 

There's a great unfolding treason now—not just the precise constitutionally defined treason, but a general betrayal of reason, of self-government, of honesty and of high office. They are now committing treason against themselves, grim betrayal winding around itself in coils ever tightening until there is nothing but the foul exhaling of the final breath of things that once belonged to better people than them.

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3 hours ago, Khan said:

Back in the day, scandals like Russia would be much harder to break, because the people involved would cover their tracks (or at least cover them better than the people involved here have).  Whatever happened to 3 a.m. meetings in empty parking lots, or covert confabs in hole-in-the-wall restaurants two towns away?  In the movie "Stalag 17," information would be passed back and forth by means of hiding messages inside light sockets.  Now, we have Don-Don meeting up with Russians in broad daylight at his high-profile dad's tower and TWEETING the damn(ing) emails in the name of "transparency."  Criminals have become So. Damn. Lazy.

 

The main difference between then and now is probably that the public back then when they began to learn everything were genuinely disturbed. I tend to question how many outside of the media and political junkies care about this. We've been talking about Russia for a year now, it feels like. A lot of people probably just tune it out to go back to Dr. Phil or whoever.

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