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21 hours ago, Marissa Gallant said:

Ugh! Dylan Hartley and Kirk the Jerk are torture

I disliked Nick more than Dylan Hartley, (and Nick seemed so much older than Kelly)  Something about the mullet-DNA in that family was very unappealing.

I forgot that after Nick, Kelly met a psychiatrist named Justin Moore (played by Larry Poindexter, later of GH).  It was during the phase when she worked at La Mesa and had her own apartment.  Kelly was trying to create her own identity away from the other Capwells.  That was also a lost thread that would have differentiated the character of Kelly from the other Capwell kids.

As for Kirk, I enjoy the 80s yuppie qualities of Kirk that contrasted him with Cruz.  He plays not only on Eden's desire to please CC and save the company, but also on her expectations for upward mobility that a cop on a boat could not fulfill.

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37 minutes ago, j swift said:

I disliked Nick more than Dylan Hartley, (and Nick seemed so much older than Kelly)  Something about the mullet-DNA in that family was very unappealing.

I forgot that after Nick, Kelly met a psychiatrist named Justin Moore (played by Larry Poindexter, later of GH).  It was during the phase when she worked at La Mesa and had her own apartment.  Kelly was trying to create her own identity away from the other Capwells.  That was also a lost thread that would have differentiated the character of Kelly from the other Capwell kids.

As for Kirk, I enjoy the 80s yuppie qualities of Kirk that contrasted him with Cruz.  He plays not only on Eden's desire to please CC and save the company, but also on her expectations for upward mobility that a cop on a boat could not fulfill.

I always thought it was interesting that Kelly fell for Joe, who came from a middle class family.  And you saw in the first months of the show how close she became to the Perkins family.

It seemed early Kelly was more of a Tori Spelling type (wanted to carve her own identity outside her family). 

I do agree that had this been more explored, it would have helped develop Kelly's character.

Mason was the prodigal son, Eden the favored daughter, and Ted was the baby of the family so everyone loved and nurtured him.

Kelly wasn't the favored daughter, and seemed aimless...trying to find security and somewhere to belong.  It's why she was close to the Perkins family, and even tried to make peace with Pamela..Jeffrey's mom.

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Eden is on my last nerve. You stupid fool. Don't pull the plug. This is very simple. Kirk is scamming you. Cruz is your rock. Let him be your rock.

"But Daddy wanted," whine whine wazzee wazzee woo woo. 

Arghh. I'm at 321, it's a long road to 368.

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3 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I always thought it was interesting that Kelly fell for Joe, who came from a middle class family.  And you saw in the first months of the show how close she became to the Perkins family.

It seemed early Kelly was more of a Tori Spelling type (wanted to carve her own identity outside her family). 

I do agree that had this been more explored, it would have helped develop Kelly's character.

Mason was the prodigal son, Eden the favored daughter, and Ted was the baby of the family so everyone loved and nurtured him.

Kelly wasn't the favored daughter, and seemed aimless...trying to find security and somewhere to belong.  It's why she was close to the Perkins family, and even tried to make peace with Pamela..Jeffrey's mom.

You are correct. There were so many ways they could have gone other than Damsel in distress.

I preferred Nick, but I don't object to May/December. (Except CC and Santana).

The best part of these episodes is the softening of Mason. The rest is making me want to bang my head into a wall.

 

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50 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

You are correct. There were so many ways they could have gone other than Damsel in distress.

I preferred Nick, but I don't object to May/December. (Except CC and Santana).

The best part of these episodes is the softening of Mason. The rest is making me want to bang my head into a wall.

 

50 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

Hey, I didn't want to register and to just read the last few pages of the thread, but I couldn't stand it so I had to register and chime in, I'm currently about the same time in the series as you are having watched just over 300 episodes in the past year at the rate of about an episode or two per day, this is my second run. I watched all those years ago, but I was young so I couldn't relate to a lot of the story as much as I can nowadays. The show got really good from about episode 260 onward. I'm currently enjoying the Eden / Gina1 altercations. Also, Gina digging through the trash to find the dress is hilarious. It, perhaps, is the start of the comedic streak that lasted through about 1989 and ended with Keith1 leaving. It reminds me of Sharon and Nikki from The Young and the Restless walking through the rat-infested sewage from about 2004. Anyways, your observations are on point and I agree with 90% of what you're writing. I comment under the YouTube videos as I watch along. Planning on watching till the very last episode this time, although I am already dreading the 1992 episodes as I watched some of them, and they don't look so hot. I cannot get into Eileen Davidson playing Kelly 4. She's always Ashley Abbott from Y&R for me. 

 

P.S. I found an obscure Russian website where I can watch in English, the videos have been up for a long time. And haven't been deleted yet. Certain videos do disappear after a time limit, but the original poster usually reuploads after you let them know. This is an addition to all of the YouTube videos, I'm sure we're watching the same ones.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

I let the episodes play in the background while I work. My job requires zero brain usage. Like full on zero. So, I watch and hit pause if it's something that I want to concentrate on. And then, I note it and watch it big when I can. 

Gotcha! That's funny, I I watch in prime time, especially now that all my usual evening shows are on hiatus until September / October. And I sure as heck am not watching the Olympics

Santa Barbara was the first real soap I I watched. I took a long hiatus after that and then watched y&r for about 6 years, then life got in the way. I tuned in occasionally nowadays for a few minutes, but it's just not what I'm used to. Everything is so boring and slow moving. I also watched GH for about 3 years and As the World Turns right before it was canceled.

 

I forgot to mention that it was funny to me that Julia walking in on Jack Lee flirting with his new secretary was the end of that situation. Clearly, the writers didn't know what was happening with the actor, whether he was going to come back or not. We know that the actor died 2 to 3 months later. That Eric character, who's supposed to be Jack Lee's assistant, was played by a pretty decent actor. I googled him, and he seems to have done quite a bit of theater work in London and New York. I think by this time they had already cooked up the Kirk Cranston idea so Eric had to go

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58 minutes ago, Marissa Gallant said:

That is awesome. Thank you. It has later episodes 

You're welcome enjoy. So far only up to June or July of 1992. It's not easy watching the Ballymoor story.

37 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Thank you!

You're welcome enjoy. SB isn't my cup of tea. But i've been enjoying the episodes more than i thought i would.

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1 hour ago, victoria foxton said:

You're welcome enjoy. So far only up to June or July of 1992. It's not easy watching the Ballymoor story.

You're welcome enjoy. SB isn't my cup of tea. But i've been enjoying the episodes more than i thought i would.

I love the early stuff. The later stuff, not so much. But I've always wanted to see CC and Sophia's third wedding (or actually the courtship that led up to it)

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17 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

If anyone's interested this site has tons of SB episodes. https://soaptube.tv/channel/_5fdd37dad8be0 I tried pming posters about this site. But not many paid me any mind. 

Thank you, I've been aware of this website as well. They actually used to be on YouTube, but this person decided to move off of there about 6 months ago because their videos kept getting deleted and I believe they wanted to monetize it also.

The Russian site pretty much has every episode in usually English and Russian. They list which language each episode is in and most episodes have up to 3 versions of varying quality.  it's all in Russian though so you would have to use a translator of some sort, and you have to register to view the content, otherwise, if you're just a guest on their message board, all those threads and posts are invisible to you so you would have to be registered.

http://www.teleserial.com/77-serial-santa-barbara-videoarhiv/

 

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