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7 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

In all fairness, the cancellation was all but inevitable by the time she came in.

 

7 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

In all fairness, the cancellation was all but inevitable by the time she came in.

True...the writing was probably on the wall when she joined. While I took issues with a lot of what she wrote, especially how the Walkers suddenly ate the show, just curious as to what others think she wrote right...or stories that had potential if the show would have lasted.

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On 7/9/2020 at 6:21 PM, j swift said:

I think Cassie is a flawed idea given that Minx had switched Brick and Channing at birth,  which established Minx as a serial baby concealer.  The suggestion that Minx allowed her daughter to be raised at an orphanage (with boys who made regular visits to the Capwells) while years earlier she couldn't bare the thought of her grandson being raised in the Capwell mansion, (right next door), strained logical reasoning.

 

But Minx didn't know that Cassie was living in the orphanage. Cassie was adopted after birth, but what Minx didn't know is that Cassie's new family didn't keep her. So she was put in the orphanage again and was raised there until the Capwells adopted her.

On 7/9/2020 at 6:21 PM, j swift said:

As for storyline potential, the Lockridge estate was always on the brink of foreclosure due to a lack of new income, so Cassie was not immediately wealthy when she came into the family.  There was no conflict with Lionel feeling betrayed by having a long lost sibling.  There was no discussion of finding Cassie's father.  The Angela/Warren coupling was not worth complicating.  Cassie and her Musketeers played with Mason as children which would have made her years older than Warren.  Finally, the exposition about her birth required the written contortions of both Minx's de-Sorasing and the retcon that Warren was not a Lockridge, (two soap tropes that are not usually appreciated by soaps fans), indicating that Laken was the only child in the family who was actually raised by her biological parents.  If the Lockridges fed their only legitimate child her pet pidgin, perhaps Cassie should have been more grateful to those nuns...

 

LOL! She probably should have.

 

Lionel did feel betrayed though. He had a whole confrontation with Minx about it. In fact, when Nicolas Coster briefly left the show in early 1991, Lionel went to Macao to dig up damaging info on Cassie. Cassie did ask Minx who her father was & it was someone Pamela knew according to the dinner party episodes. Minx wouldn't tell Cassie.

 

But I totally agree that Warren not being a Lockridge was a bad move.

On 7/11/2020 at 5:23 AM, redontop4 said:

 

Patrick Mulcahey once explained that he and Jerry Dobson and Chuck Pratt would gather at the Dobsons' house every few weeks to plot story, and that was the genesis of some of SB's best storylines. I  believe that's why the Dobsons' second stint didn't work. As talented as they are and as much as they deserve credit for the concept and launch of SB, they had a lot of help from some very talented people. For my money, SB was at its best circa 1987 when the Dobsons were exec-producing, Chuck Pratt was co-head writer, Patrick Mulcahey and Courtney Simon (and others) were writing scripts, and Jill Farren Phelps (who knew and loved SB and was fantastic there) was heading the production team as supervising producer. By 1990, John Conboy had run Mulcahey off and fired Pratt and Phelps. Simon left in 1992 to rejoin JFP and Mulcahey (and her husband) at GL.

 

Agreed!

On 7/12/2020 at 2:24 AM, amybrickwallace said:

She only wrote the show for less than a year. Does anyone exactly know how long?

 

March 1992-January 1993.

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On 7/11/2020 at 10:25 PM, Soaplovers said:

I would she gave Santana a good exit..breaking free of the Capwells at last.  

 

That's true. Still, it would have had more resonance if Gina Gallego had still been playing Santana. WDJ was just all wrong for the part.

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6 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

That's true. Still, it would have had more resonance if Gina Gallego had still been playing Santana. WDJ was just all wrong for the part.

 

I thought that WDJ's Santana was far better and a lot more interesting than GG and Margaret Michaels. The show never got Santana right after losing Ava Lazar.

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I think the missed opportunity with Santana was making her the third wheel in the Eden/Cruz storyline.  By history, Santana was in love with Channing, and left Santa Barbara to study interior design in Europe, after giving birth to Brandon.  Making her into a whiny drug addict who developed a dependent relationship with Cruz really pinned her character into a corner.  

 

I would have preferred either an ongoing collusion with Mason, (who needed an ally), in order to take down CC.  Or, an ongoing rivalry with Gina. 

 

It felt like once Gina was recast with Robin Mattson, she made most of the storyline potential for Santana seem redundant.  Brandon was better suited to be raised by Gina, and Eden became too good to scrap with her housekeeper's daughter.  However, Santana should have been a Latinx version of Alexis Colby, (regal, snobby, and always on the come up for a richer husband).

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10 hours ago, j swift said:

However, Santana should have been a Latinx version of Alexis Colby, (regal, snobby, and always on the come up for a richer husband).

 

I think that's what Ava Lazar's Santana was primed to be. I still don't know what the Dobsons were thinking when they let her go.

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On Facebook someone just posted a picture of Jack Wagner as Warren #3 from 1991 (with his awful Caesar/Clooney haircut).  It got me thinking about the number of recasts that occurred during that period.  Warren, Mason, Kelly and Keith were all recast within months of each other and then Eden left the show.  I don't know if any soap could survive that degree of cast upheaval.  The cancellation of a soap is often attributed to creative issues,  but it seems an important lesson that soap habits are made on repetition and once that sense of normalcy is gone the habit is easy to replace; regardless of the popularity of using actors from other soaps.  

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A few weeks ago, Mark Arnold (Joe Perkins #2, 1984-85) was part of one of many live chats with Alan Locher. Most of the episode was about EDGE and OLTL, but he was asked about SB and working with Robin Wright. I'll let him tell you the story. It's at about the 54:05 Mark:

 

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