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  1. So being the ratings nerd that I am, I averaged out all the data from these charts, and compiled an actual season average for each year 1989-90 through 1996-97 (so far), thanks to the AWESOME work of @JAS0N47:

     

    1989-90 (missing some weeks)  
    1 Y&R 8.0
    2 GH 7.0
    3 AMC 6.3
    4 OLTL 6.0
    5 ATWT 5.8
    6 B&B 5.7
    7 DAYS 5.4
    8 GL 5.3
    9 AW 3.9
    10 SB 3.5
    11 LOV 3.3
    12 GEN 2.5
    1990-91    
    1 Y&R 8.0
    2 GH 6.3
    3 AMC 6.0
    4 ATWT 5.9
    5 B&B 5.6
    6 OLTL 5.4
    7 DAYS 5.3
    8 GL 5.2
    9 AW 3.9
    10 SB 3.1
    11 LOV 2.9
    12 GEN 2.3
    1991-92    
    1 Y&R 8.3
    2 AMC 6.8
    3 ATWT 5.7
    4 GH 5.6
    5 B&B 5.5
    5 GL 5.5
    7 OLTL 5.3
    8 DAYS 5.2
    9 AW 3.9
    10 SB 3.0
    11 LOV 2.7

     

    1992-93    
    1 Y&R 8.3
    2 AMC 7.1
    3 B&B 5.9
    4 GH 5.8
    5 ATWT 5.7
    6 OLTL 5.6
    7 GL 5.3
    8 DAYS 4.9
    9 AW 3.2
    10 LOV 2.8
    11 SB

    2.6

     

    1993-94    
    1 Y&R 8.1
    2 AMC 6.4
    3 GH 6.1
    4 B&B 5.8
    5 DAYS 5.6
    6 ATWT 5.5
    6 OLTL 5.5
    8 GL 5.1
    9 AW 3.4
    10 LOV

    2.6

     

    1994-95    
    1 Y&R 7.3
    2 AMC 5.8
    3 GH 5.6
    4 B&B 5.4
    5 DAYS 5.2
    6 OLTL 4.9
    7 ATWT 4.7
    8 GL 4.3
    9 AW 3.0
    10 LOV 2.4

     

    1995-96    
    1 Y&R 7.6
    2 DAYS 5.9
    3 B&B 5.3
    4 AMC 5.2
    5 GH 5.0
    6 ATWT 4.5
    6 OLTL 4.5
    8 GL 4.0
    9 AW 3.1
    10 LOV 2.5
    11 CITY 2.2

     

    1996-97    
    1 Y&R 7.2
    2 DAYS 6.0
    3 B&B 5.0
    4 AMC 4.7
    4 GH 4.7
    6 ATWT 4.4
    7 OLTL 4.0
    8 GL 3.8
    9 AW 3.1
    10 PC 2.4
    11 CITY 2.0
    12 SUN

    1.9

     

    ETA 1997-98:

     

    1997-98    
    1 Y&R 6.8
    2 DAYS 5.0
    3 B&B 4.8
    4 GH 4.6
    5 AMC 4.2
    6 ATWT 4.1
    7 GL 4.0
    8 OLTL 3.6
    9 AW 2.6
    10 PC 2.1
    11 SUN

    1.8

     

     

    Thanks again JAS0N47 for this info. I've been loving seeing the different trends and what affected ratings across the different shows.

     

     


  2. 4 hours ago, carolineg said:

    I could be crazy but I think they broke up Don and Marlena because they wanted to give DH a younger love interest after she became super popular.   The early 80's had so many casting changes and I feel like they were beginning to start phasing Don out.  Giving him B stories like the Maggie romance.  Once WN's Roman caught on there was no need to go back to Don and Marlena.

    Conversely,  they hired Eileen to give Drake a younger love interest because TPTB thought Deidre was too old.  JER is the one that went full force with J&M.   I honestly never thought Marlena looked older than John.  I think Deidre looked pretty ageless until the last few years.

    Actually, I just figured JER needed someone to fill the spot Isabella held in the Roman/Marlena/John/Isabella quad. She filled the same duties in the story (daughter of an enemy of John's, though by that point, Victor had been defanged). The only real difference is that I can't see Isabella becoming the desperate villain Kristen became, though I'm sure fighting Marlena for John's affections for that many years could potentially do it to anyone. It could have proven a much more compelling story had Isabella gone to the dark side, given the more extended history, as well as the added leverage of Isabella also having John's child. Long term, that rivalry could have carried over into Brady and Belle, though, knowing Reilly, he'd never go into it with the depth that kind of storytelling would require.


  3. 4 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

    Haha I'm glad you're a fan of my work, and I'm glad the psychology of Y&R's music is working on you! Just goes to show how influential Y&R's rich music history really is. If I had the necessary experience and education, I would work by Mike Dobson as Y&R's assistant music director (or something like that) in a heartbeat.

    In fairness, I was always more of a Y&R fan than a GH fan anyway (though I've enjoyed both shows in my time). For me, Y&R's intensity is what really draws me in, and you manage to harness to heighten that quality in  the GH scenes. Can't wait to see what else you come up with.


  4. 8 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

    And yet the show picked up Ron C's option for another year as head-writer.  Certainly there is better out there..Sheri Anderson anyone?

    I truly don't understand why, instead of bumping her up to Co-HW at the LEAST, they instead demote her to scriptwriter and then, ultimately, she leaves (or is fired? Can anyone confirm?)

    I know in the past she's expressed a lack of desire to return to the show as HW because of the budget, but...what little good was happening on DAYS this past while, I largely credit to Sheri's input. The moment she and Ryan Quan ended their consulting stints, I've noticed things going WILDLY off the rails. And I haven't loved a lot of the show under Ron so far as it is.


  5. 6 minutes ago, Khan said:

    I am so damn sick and tired of people taking it upon themselves to dictate what is and is not appropriate for this-or-that thread, as if they own this godforsaken board.

     

    You don't think this is the right time or place to discuss TPTB's treatment of KSJ, Victoria Rowell or any other African-American actors, in daytime or in general?  Fine.  Duly noted.  Now, either ignore the ongoing discussion, or participate in a different thread.  Either way, shut the hell up -- because, frankly, my dear, no one gives a damn.

     

     

    Believe me, if KSJ has gone to "a better place," then he's resting just fine.

     

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  6. 33 minutes ago, BellaCuore said:

     

    I never said you couldn't. I just felt there is a time and place as this is his thread to honor him that was all....

     

    I guess we just see it different as this is about his resting in peace thread. I guess you don't see it that way but that is OK.....

     

    I may not agree with you but it that is OK.....I also may not agree about certain other things but I am for civil rights for ALL people.... was brought up that way wouldn't ever change that.... then again even if I wasn't I know my heart and mind would have been that way already....I also may not agree that everything had to do with race …..but I am I really good and fair person who doesn't label races EVER and loves people who are good nomatter their race,  religion.

     

    No point in carrying on, I am sure you get my point....

     

    May Kristoff rest peacefully

    You know, you don't HAVE to have the last word, right??🙄


  7. 10 hours ago, Faulkner said:

    Also, Theo on DAYS. Rare black male (himself a DiMera legacy character) as desired sex symbol in a triangle with two legacy characters who happened to be white. Ron Carlivati came on, had him shot, paralyzed, and shipped out of town. (Black characters are also almost always most expendable during regime changes. Never allowed to build momentum, continuity, equity to create viewer investment.)

     

    Now, the actor wasn’t great (nor are a lot of folks on DAYS), but his treatment spoke volumes.

    Not to mention the entire storyline was written to drive sympathy for the white cop (JJ) instead of properly play the complexities that race played in his shooting and potentially having JJ come to terms with his own buried prejudices about black people, or said prejudices within the police force.

    Hell, they had Abe come off as the heavy for laying into "poor sad Jennifer" while she cornered Abe at every opportunity to talk about how sad JJ was. No subtlety, no nuance to it, and then, in the end, OOPS ALL WAS FORGIVEN LOL NO BIGGIE.

    Absolutely disgraceful way that story was handled. You're all right, the way black characters are handled needs to come from behind the scenes before it'll ever show on screen. It's funny, because when the Grants were introduced on DAYS in the mid-70s, they hired a very talented black writer and poet (whose name escapes me at the moment) to ensure their portrayal and story were accurate and authentic. Apparently this is too much to ask in 2019.


  8. 10 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

    I thought the chaos of Abby shooting Roy (on GL) after the judge dismissed the prosecution’s case against him was really memorable and well-orchestrated (starts at 1:25). 

     

     

    That first year of B&E at GL was fantastic, before they gummed it up with that clone nonsense. Though, I gotta say, that blowback from the shot was a bit lolworthy.


  9. As much as they've ruined Kristen in later years, I still am mesmerized watching this. Of course, this won her the emmy that year, and deservedly so. We don't get many moments like this anymore on any show.

    ETA: This also reminds me what a lousy choice it was to recast the role this last go-around. SH doesn't hold a candle to ED.
     

     

    On 1/24/2019 at 8:01 PM, Faulkner said:

    Some personal faves! Enjoy.

    Thank you for the Alex/Roger scenes. Beverlee McKinsey was in an entirely different league. Amazing stuff!


  10. 11 hours ago, Khan said:

     

    I'm not going to speak for everyone, but I want DAYS to stop this ridiculous practice of rehiring actors for new and different roles.  It's fine when that actor played only minor or day player roles, but...Josh Taylor (ex-Chris) as Roman?  Wayne Northrop (ex-Roman) as Alex North?  Judi Evans (Adrienne) as Bonnie?  Kyle Lowder (ex-Brady) as Rex?  Judith Chapman (ex-Anjelica) as Diana?  Tamara Braun as, like, 17 different, front-burner characters?  If these actors (and others I'm probably forgetting/ignoring) are so valuable to Ken Corday and the other producers, then why not bring them back in their original roles?  We've already pointed out, for instance, how having JC come back as Anjelica (and not as Diana) could have just as much impact on the lives of Leo, Sonny, Justin and Adrienne.  And if WN could come back as Roman, as he's clearly expressed that he'd like to, I think there could be a way to do that without losing Taylor or Drake Hogestyn and still give all three men something valuable to do.

     

    IMO, this practice of rehiring once-prominent actors to portray characters with no connections to their former ones is just one more thing that makes it difficult for DAYS viewers to invest in their show emotionally or take it seriously.  (I'm not even going to address the rampant resurrections of characters that should have remained dead, or the romantic and sexual hookups that are past bordering on incest at this point.)

    You're speaking for me. This hit every point I wanted to make dead on.


  11. 12 hours ago, Khan said:

     

    It's as if they intentionally didn't bring back JC as Anjelica because that's what fans would have expected.  But, there's a fine line between subverting expectations and plain pulling [!@#$%^&*] out of one's ass.

    As I said on Facebook, between JC as Diana, and KL as Rex, it's almost as though DAYS' casting department's forgotten there's more than six actors for hire in Hollywood, as they're just cycling through the same people hoping no one cares enough to call it out. I'm waiting for six months from now when Tamara Braun comes back as a recast Nicole, Shawn Christian debuts as the new Mike Horton, and Eileen Davidson stuns Salem as a not-quite-dead Isabella.🙄


  12. 24 minutes ago, SFK said:

    I missed several months, so let me get this straight... Morgan played Anjelica for a time until Anjelica was killed off; Anjelica came back from the dead in the form of Judith; now Judith is playing Diana?

    Strictly speaking, no. Judith played Anjelica for the Halloween episode as part of Hattie's dream, where Anjelica was essentially a physical manifestation of the devil. 

     

    Personally, I agree with all of you. Having her back as Anjelica would be perfect. There was even an A.D. on one of the doors in Nashville. She could easily have been there, and come back using Leo as a wedge to mess with Adrienne by screwing with her kids. But no. Instead we get Diana Colville, probably WILDLY out of character (because I have a strong feeling they're gonna make her Anjelica in all but name).

    Frustrating.

    On 1/16/2019 at 12:07 AM, Franko said:

    A woman with a history with John -- she's Danielle Stevens?

     

    ETA: Or -- oh God -- Diana Colville. "That we've seen before" seems to be a really big hint. Off the top of my head, the only other choices would be Olivia Reed or Rebecca Morrison.

    EETA: I forgot Yvette DuPrés. Besides obvious nos (Isabella, Kristen), there's no one else, right?

    Danielle would have worked when they were concocting Paul's backstory-that-made-no-sense. We SAW Danielle and John in bed together, whereas John was never off screen when he supposedly slept with this Tori woman. If they wanted a secret son for John, that would've been the way to do it, and make him more like Leo. I'd have had the character that turned out to be Paul be a conniving jewel thief like his mama. But that ship's sailed. We don't need another son for John, even though we all know that's where they're going with this.


  13. 4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

    Billy Flynn was awful today. What horrible acting today from him.

    Right? Kate Mansi especially might as well have been talking to a block of wood. He really let down these scenes, and considering this is meant to be the big climax to the show's A-story of the better part of a year, it's really inexcusable. 

     

    I'm glad they've got Ben working for Stefan. He has really needed someone to interact with that, in some way, humanizes him for most of his run. It's good that now we finally get those scenes, but I wish they'd come much sooner.


  14. 43 minutes ago, carolineg said:

     

     

    I can't remember the hotel burning down.  I think the Port Charles Hotel burnt down a few years early.  The Metro Court was held hostage but that was a year or so earlier.  The toxic 'balls' story I am a little sketchy on but basically there was an explosion in the hospital and made it necessary for GH to have a new hospital set. 

     

    This is the best breakdown I find on the internet:

                Best Answer:  Some guy who swallowed 4 balls of biotoxins was brought into the ER and while Patrick's younger brother sliced the guy open, one of the balls was broken and the biotoxins spread quickly killing some people and sending the hospital in a complete shutdown with almost everyone important trapped inside. Then later when the Feds were trying to remove the balls of biotoxins, someone tripped on a cord which caused a big explosion and set the hospital on fire. Jax flew in one helicopter but it crashed so he got another from the cops and landed on the roof of the hospital to evacuate as many people as he could.
    Spinelli got trapped in a hospital utility room so Jason and Sam searched for him until they found him and they all walked out of the hospital safely. Claudia told Sonny everything about what her father Anthony Zacchara had been up to including the fact that he's not crippled and that Anthony shot Kate at the wedding chapel; so Sonny chased Anthony around the hospital with a gun intent on shooting him but Jason stopped him by pleading an begging him not to shoot Anthony for Spinelli's sake. Kate kept blabbing in the hallways to Claudia and to anyone who would listen that she found a dvd that will prove to Sonny that she's dangerous. Kate asked Olivia to pick up the dvd that was under Claudia's wheelchair and bring it to her so Olivia picked it up and through it into a burning room so it would be destroyed and said it was for the best. Kate still hellbent on telling Sonny about the dvd got the chance after they were rescued but because Sonny said that he would not divorce Claudia, Kate didn't tell him about the dvd, instead she said she would make Sonny pay for what he did to her. Maxie and Johnny went looking for Robin and her newborn in the snow and found Robin laying in the snow and the baby tucked in a hole in a tree. They went to GH and found out that the hospital was on a lock down so Robin told Maxie and Johnny to take the baby to another hospital while she stayed back at GH to help out with the evacuation. The real reason Robin did that was because of partum depression. Robin finally got over the depression when she was summoned by the other hospital saying that the baby is in trouble; then Robin held her baby and finally snapped out of the post partum depression. Maxi then went back to GH and snuck into the burning hospital in an effort to locate and save Spinelli, however she didn't find him and had to be rescued by Johnny. Maxie then had to confront the Priestess who I think has a crush on Spinelli. Maxie and the Priestess argued a little bit but the Priestess managed to keep Maxie from trying to go back into the burning hospital. When Carly thought that Jax had died in the airplane crash, she tried to find a way out of the hospital and Sonny had to find her and they both walked out of the hospital safely. Later after Jax had finished flying evacuees off the rooftop, he came looking for Carly on the ground and they hugged each other. Trevor stole one of the balls of biotoxins and kept lording it over Kate, Carly, his son Ric and then to Sam when she tried to stop him at the rooftop. Trevor tried to pick up Sam and through her over the ledge of the rooftop, he fell instead from the rooftop and then Jason came out and heard her and looked over the ledge and rescued her and the one ball of biotoxin. Then Jason and Sam went searching for Spinelli. Lucky and Elizabeth bonded in the hospital while Elizabeth was recovering from the biotoxins. It seems that Lucky has already forgotten about his girlfriend Sam because he left the hospital with Elizabeth and never bothered to go back and find Sam. Jason, Sam and Spinelli were the last ones out of the hospital and they had to save themselves.

     

    So this all sounds pretty crazy. 



    ...the f*ck did I just read? :blink:

    I am so glad I stopped watching this show. Wow, that sounds absolutely painful.


  15. On 8/3/2018 at 10:16 PM, ranger1rg said:

    Will and Paul have become increasingly unromantic. There’s no heat, no sexy between them at all. 

     

    Those scenes in that small, boring, sterile bedroom make it all even worse.

    That's a lot of DAYS couple scenes lately. Say "I love you" a couple times to remind the audience you're a couple, then share some food and talk about said food. Rinse and repeat.

    I've been mostly enjoying what I'm seeing but, that, in particular, drove me nuts.

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